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Anyone Using a 14 Degree Bit in your P.C. 4210 / 4212 Dovetail Jig?

by pintodeluxe
posted 07-13-2012 06:14 PM


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pintodeluxe

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#1 posted 07-13-2012 07:17 PM

A link to the supplemental manual…
http://www.rockler.com/tech/RTD10000211AA.pdf

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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tenontim

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#2 posted 07-13-2012 07:35 PM

I couldn’t get the manual to load, but normally, the shallower angle is used for hardwood dovetails and the steeper angle for softwood. That’s the rule of thumb I use for hand cutting dovetails.

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pintodeluxe

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#3 posted 07-13-2012 08:58 PM

I prefer the steeper angle for aesthetic reasons.
Maybe I’ll try the Rockler bit to see if that works. The thing is, there is only one depth that works for each bit (when cutting half-blind dovetails). The supplementary manual has a nice chart to help you pick the right bit specs.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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RiverWood

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#4 posted 07-13-2012 09:06 PM

I have not tried it, yet, but thanks for the best information I have seen on the PC jig

-- My favorite projects were firewood bound

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pintodeluxe

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#5 posted 07-13-2012 09:17 PM

I ordered the Rockler #91089 bit. I will let you know if it works.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#6 posted 07-13-2012 11:21 PM

Thanks for the heads up.
I’ll be watching with interest.

I put one of the bits you mentioned in my cart and I’ll grab it if everything turns out ok.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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pintodeluxe

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#7 posted 07-25-2012 04:23 AM


Link to further info…
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/40073

The Rockler 91089 worked well. It is a 14 degree dovetail bit 5/8” wide, with a 5/8” depth of cut.
I set the bit to cut slightly less than 5/8”, and the fit was good. Pictures show the 14 degree bit vs. the standard 7 degree bit that comes with the 4210 / 4212 jig.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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ajosephg

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#8 posted 07-25-2012 12:58 PM

Thanks for the info. I think the 14 degree does look better.

-- Joe

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Bill White

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#9 posted 07-25-2012 02:49 PM

Now this kind of info is what ‘Jocks is all about. Thanks for the tip.
Bill

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toolmantim

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#10 posted 12-27-2012 03:46 AM

I made this jig one of my early Christmas presents and at the moment attempting to modify the Rockler dust collection hood to it. Nothing replaces the look of a well made home shop built dovetail joint on a project. Its one of the things people see when checking out our handy work.

-- " My favorite Place in Life, The Shop "

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#11 posted 12-27-2012 04:05 AM

This is the supplied bit. I just slapped something together, just to try out a new router to see how it worked with the jig…

needs a bit more fine tuning, though. That old barn wood don’t like router bits…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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NiteWalker

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#12 posted 12-27-2012 07:26 AM

Just another heads up; I went to grab the rockler bit and it’s on backorder until march 2013.
Lee valley has the same bit (item #16J17.55) and it’s cheaper. Pair that with free shipping over $40 until 1/7 and we have a winner. :)

Edit to add:
MLCS has the same bit as well (item # 7699) even cheaper than the lee valley bit. Not bad if you’re just testing the waters.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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MICHAEL DESTEFANO

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#13 posted 03-28-2015 02:51 AM

DO YOU HAVE TO USE THE LEFT SIDE AND RIGHT SIDE, OR CAN YOU JUST CUT ALL FROM ONE SIDE

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pintodeluxe

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#14 posted 03-28-2015 03:33 AM

You can cut them all on one side, as long as your drawer width is 3-1/4”, 4-1/4”, 5-1/4” etc.
The side stops can be adjusted if needed with the supplied allen wrench.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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MICHAEL DESTEFANO

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#15 posted 03-28-2015 12:07 PM

THE PROBLEM IS, THE BOX IN MY PIC IS WHAT I WANT TO USE THE DOVETAILS ON. 48×23x23

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#16 posted 03-28-2015 02:17 PM

That supplemental manual has a lot of info in it. To bad PC makes it so hard to find on their website.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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MICHAEL DESTEFANO

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#17 posted 04-09-2015 12:33 AM

ALL THE WOOD IS T & G THE SUPPLEMENTAL MANUAL DOES NOT EVEN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS

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