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Posting in inappropriate sections..

by degoose
posted 03-08-2012 08:00 AM


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#1 posted 03-08-2012 08:08 AM

seems so simple doesn’t it

yet most don’t get it

i just checked the home page

39,600 members

like going to a major airport
nobody knows anybody

but everyone just insists they are first
in line
and demand attention

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#2 posted 03-08-2012 08:12 AM

Well I think I will just leave the posting to others and .. drop by occasionally ..have a quick look and get on with my life…

-- Don't drink and use power tools @ lasercreationsbylarry.com.au

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#3 posted 03-08-2012 08:21 AM

i have been thinking
of making something
out of white melamine

maybe i’ll post it as a project too
even though i don’t have any pictures of it yet

and ask what color white i should paint it

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#4 posted 03-08-2012 09:56 AM

I have read and understood but I still posted some projects using Corian mainly to show that there is life other than wood. I had NO complaints from the Administrators (maybe they don’t look at projects unless they are friends or buddies) but I had quite a few private messages reminding me that this is a wood workers site. Maybe a section for “other than wood projects” could let those who dabble in other materials post their projects, with Corian I use the same method as I do with wood and I thought it could be interesting for other members.

-- Bob C, Australia. Your best teacher is your last mistake.

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#5 posted 03-08-2012 09:57 AM

How ‘bout some cheese to go with that whine?

-- Kevin, South Carolina

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#6 posted 03-08-2012 10:49 AM

“Otherwise wise it will be removed”. Now, the question is by who? and the answer is by Martin Sojka, I think. So, Larry, you have to direct your complaint or any suggestion to Martin himself because he can not review all the site every day and take action. We, all Lumberjocks, have to help him with this task.

-- Sam Shakouri / CREATING WONDERS WITH WOOD.....Sydney,Australia....

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#7 posted 03-08-2012 11:35 AM

Sam I don’t know about that… I remember making a questionable post and having it ripped within minutes… and I have checked back over my 193 projects and there is one that was inappropriately posted in projects but that was well before the new conditions had to be posted… so I apologise about that one…
What really gets my goat is people actually stating in the information section that the project is not made of wood or is not finished… and still posting it…

-- Don't drink and use power tools @ lasercreationsbylarry.com.au

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#8 posted 03-08-2012 11:36 AM

Bob Collins has a point. Restoring woodworking machines certainly isn’t wood, but we all like it because as woodworkers we are interested in woodworking machines, and presumably in woodworking techniques, even though the material we are working with might sometimes be some other material. On the other hand we do get a lot of woodworking projects that are actually home improvement projects which should probably be posted on the HomeRefurbers site. This doesn’t bother me. I think that some (maybe many) members just feel that they are with their good friends and want to share something, which in some cases happens to be more social and less woodworking or not strictly on subject.

As Larry points out it is better when folks follow the rules. I’m sure we all get annoyed with some of the things posted, especially those that aren’t within the bounds of site policy, but I figure that I don’t have to read what I don’t like and so I just pass it by. Occasionally I get PMs or posts on my home site from some Nigerian swindlers posing as girls who find a 72 decrepit man ‘interesting’. I just block them and forget them. David is also correct in reminding us that with almost 40,000 members its bound to be a little chaotic.

My suggestion is to be glad they are participating in the site and not crazy on drugs, drunk or committing heinous crimes. Personally I think bad behavior is best rebuked by just ignoring their posts. Those folks will soon learn that to get any attention they will have behave themselves. I Also agree with Sam that individual complaints are best directed to Martin. I have done that in the past and he has ‘fixed’ it every time.

I think it would be awful to lose folks like Larry who has contributed so much to the site and inspired so many others because we are thoughtless with our posts. The first question we should ask ourselves before posting should be ‘is this really woodworking related, and will anyone besides myself actually be interested in it?’, excepting of course those ‘off topic posts’ on the forums.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#9 posted 03-08-2012 11:51 AM

Stefang, I certainly count you as one of my friends here and appreciate your comments… but in the Daily Top 3 over recent days there is example after example of inappropriate postings…... pics of workshops… while nice to look at… should be in the workshop part of their page…several jigs…very inventive some of them but best posted in another section….as well as one make of some type of pvc pipe…
I do understand that some people think the only place to be noticed is in Projects… so that is where they post all there items…and sometimes I see a post and go to take a better look only to find it is part one of a blog, or a wood gloat, or some such…

-- Don't drink and use power tools @ lasercreationsbylarry.com.au

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#10 posted 03-08-2012 11:53 AM

What is the use … it will not stop….I suppose we are lucky the the whole 40 odd thousand don’t actually post anything or Heck we would be up to our armpits in all sorts of ….......

-- Don't drink and use power tools @ lasercreationsbylarry.com.au

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#11 posted 03-08-2012 12:29 PM

Steve You could post the rules inappropreately in projects section so all could see how inappropriate . Haha.

-- Phil Zoeller louisville, KY

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#12 posted 03-08-2012 12:33 PM

I thought everything was just nice. I do like the variety. The workshops are interesting, I never saw the Corian projects, but I would like too. Jigs are helpful. Some questions are plain stupid and redundent, but what the heck my wife says that about me. I suggest this site to many people and I explain that there are a lot of beginners and several projects posted. I aslo say you look at these and think that there’s not much too them than “Bang” someone post a project that just leaves you feeling humble. There are a lot of talented, inventive and intellegent folks here. I respect all levels of skill, but I do have a laugh every once and a while.

-- check, recheck then check again

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#13 posted 03-08-2012 12:40 PM

I agree completely! Did someone piss in your corn flakes? I have had two heart attacks in the last 5 years and believe me you don’t want to work yourself up to one of those!

Just kidding about the corn flakes, maybe it was cheerios! lol

Relax, have a beer and don’t let them get to ya!

I used to think some cars must not have turn signals but then I thought maybe people are just not wanting to wear them out!

Have you ever been behind someone in traffic and when the light changes thats when they turn their left turn signal on? It frosts my ass!

I’m getting off my soap box now to make room for others and I did signal before I got down!

I enjoyed our rants and thank all you jocks for being there!

-- spanky46 -- Never enough clamps...Never enough tools...Never enough time.

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#14 posted 03-08-2012 12:41 PM

i think that those who are new here should show a little respect for those who have been here a looooong time, and who know the rules, and who are major contributors to this site…following the rules use to mean , that’s what you do, no questions asked…now,,,its a hay day, it doesn’t matter, we just do what we want, and if people have a problem with it, well heck ill just create a tv show about it…....lumber jocks is just that, WOOD…..doesn’t mean you cant post things that have other things in it, but its suppose to be mostly wood…and its suppose to be finished…in big bold letters…it says IS THIS A WOOD PROJECT, IS THIS A FINISHED PROJECT… not a blog on how i made it…that’s a blog, post it in the blogs…..listen to those of experience here folks…show some respect….follow the rules.. please.

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#15 posted 03-08-2012 12:42 PM

True Larry. I do see your point. It is annoying when you post a project and it is already on page 5 at the end of the day because of so many unwarranted project posts. There are a lot of wonderful project posts, but there are also a lot of them that don’t belong there and just pollute the site. I have never thought that having a lot of members is a particularly good marker of success, except for the site owners.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#16 posted 03-08-2012 01:26 PM

Have another beer, Larry. You sound stressed. :-)

I agree with you for the most part. I think people just don’t pay attention to the posting rules… it’s not that they are intentionally trying to be obnoxious.

I do disagree with you on one minor point, though. If I make a jig out of wood (a table saw sled, for example), I say that’s a valid woodworking project.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#17 posted 03-08-2012 01:34 PM

“Can’t we just all get along”? There are a lot of people in here, from all sorts of backgrounds, so some of this has to be expected. How we deal with it is certainly in our control. Earlier in my LJ’s experences I have been slammed by a fed up member who didn’t think that what was listed was correct. Instead of a friendly concern it was hostile, seen the same thing done to others. Improvements have been made trying to help people to chanel down the right path when listing. I have had things in projects listed only for a few hours before others pushed it off. And yes, sometimes questionable projects, but I don’t see this getting much better. Some of the problems are just from the sheer amount of stuff being listed that are listed correctly. I can still remember the posting of one called “10,000 pens” where comments were made against people posting just one pen, on several pens. They should be able to be as proud of their new pen as anyother projects no matter how complex or better looking. That is my 2 cents. As this topic is being grinded out lets be careful to remember not to grind each other in the process.

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/16403 10,000 pens link

-Mike

-- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

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#18 posted 03-08-2012 01:46 PM

one thing that is hard to deal with at times
is that there is a
JIGS AND FIXTURES forum (http://lumberjocks.com/forums/12)
after 5 years
it only has 174 entry’s

and as so few use tags to add to their posts
it is hard to find what you may be looking for
when you do a search for some help

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#19 posted 03-08-2012 01:47 PM

Why cant the restrictions be “Related to woodworking”?

That way we can encompass the Tool rebuilds and the partial Woodworking builds?

2 cents from the new guy :)
-Paul

-- - Paul, Flower Mound,TX

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#20 posted 03-08-2012 01:49 PM

IMO, I think the “problem”, if it really is a problem, lies in the fact that there is only ONE gallery of images and that is linked to “Projects.”

By and large folks are quite visual by nature. And sadly, currently there is no way to have a gallery of, for example:

1. Member’s Personal Gallery—(under their control to post images of their own choice… pets, family, tools, etc.) – Would not have to be accessible beyond members “Profile” page.

2. WW Hand Tools Gallery—There is great interest in WW hand Tools and to have a ready made reference gallery might help folks identify a family heirloom or just admire others’ collections without having to blindly hunt through forum topics/posts that may or may not show them.

3. WW Tool Collection(s) Gallery—could include all forms of WW tools including power tools and “dream” tools for inspiration.

I have made such suggestions in the past. What do you all think?

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#21 posted 03-08-2012 02:00 PM

that’s a great idea mike

maybe a ‘THINK FORUM’

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#22 posted 03-08-2012 02:06 PM

I agree HorizontalMike. It would be nice to have some additional options. I understand why they need restictions on certain galleries, but your idea would help with more places to post things we like. I personally dont care what people post where, if I like it I will look at it, and if not, I pass. I feel everyone has certain things they would like to share and thats OK with me as long as its all kept civil.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#23 posted 03-08-2012 02:22 PM

Yeah Wayne,... WWW (wonderful wood working) is fine and XXX (you know) is NOT!

;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#24 posted 03-08-2012 02:22 PM

I like the “personal gallery” and “tool gallery” idea, Mike.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#25 posted 03-08-2012 02:50 PM

As our membership increases we need adjustments made to maintain a structure that is easy to navigate. H-Mike’s suggestion addresses an issue where we need to expand options not only to point to specific content areas but also to divide current sections into “sub sections” to allow for the ever increasing membership.
I can see Larry’s frustration as we now have “projects” by the butt load taking that area into the fast lane where it does not get noticed. Yes they should only be finished Projects and nothing else.
Larry, your projects are always a pleasure to see and most people here are in awe of your work. Let us as members suggest to management ways to improve and update the site to meet issues we find along the way.
Larry, these things need to be brought up when a change is needed and you were quite right to bring it up. Good on yer mate.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#26 posted 03-08-2012 02:56 PM

hey there mike, all that thar star gazing has paid off…good idea buddy….....

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#27 posted 03-08-2012 02:58 PM

Larry, let me start by saying that I have the utmost respect for you and consider you as one of the staples to the LJ site. I have enjoyed many, many of your tutorials and projects.

I think people get caught up and excited about what they are doing as a craft/hobby, etc and are just in a hurry to show it off and I think the Project gallery like a few of the others has the easiest way to display that work/ project. I personallly enjoy looking at many of items that are on here from the smallest project to the largest projects, workshop and jigs too. I like the visual because it make it easy to browse quickly and then slow down on personal interests and taste.

I do agree that organization is much better and everything has a place that will make it better. I am a Systems adminstrator and in the office environment I find that IT folks have a better understanding of the system and tend to organize data in categories and subfolders to make it much easier to search and manage. Over the years I find that you have in the work environment all levels of experience and mindset as to how to save files and where to save them. I think the same applies here. I agree with the other that if we had a extend gallery that functioned like the project gallery then maybe people would organize better. You are still going to find that some still don’t read and some still don’t understand the core rules of woodworking projects. I am in a turning group and their are purist turners that only turn bowls from solid pieces of wood, I turn a variety including segmented. Purist don’t seem go care for it. I find that woodworking groups treat woodturning as the red headed step child ( no offense to any red headed people ) and don’t consider turning as woodworking. I really like the workshops photos and do wish a separate gallery to view those easier as I am still working on organizing my shop I see alot of good visual ideas there.

Perhaps Martin has some ideas that might help these issues that you raise. They are very vaild and it will only get more cluttered the longer it goes and it will be harder to cleanup and control if they don’t work on it early..

The one thing that I ask of you is to not get frustrated and stop participating in the site. That would be a huge loss to many on this forum that enjoy your work and experience.

Take care and best wishes.

Mike

-- Mike, Missouri --- “A positive life can not happen with a negative mind.” ---

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#28 posted 03-08-2012 03:23 PM

I like and respect you, Larry, and I also love to see your work. I sure wouldn’t want to see you get discouraged and unhappy about coming here because you contribute an awful lot to this site. Whatever everyone along with the owners come up with I’ll sure try to abide with it.

helluvawreck aka Charles
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#29 posted 03-08-2012 03:29 PM

It ain’t what it used to be, as the old lady said. Larry, I have been feeling like you do for a while now…so, I drop in, take a quick look, and move on down the road. Occasionally make a comment, occasionally post a project if I think some of my friends might be interested, and that is about it. In my opinion the site has become too large and too unfocused. I am not casting blame on anyone…...this is just the way the world often works.

-- Rowdy in Kechi, Kansas

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#30 posted 03-08-2012 03:46 PM

Larry, I’m with you on this. I was guilty of this posting incorrectly, prior to me really thinking about it. I had many say they were glad I posted, but I have cut way down on what I put on here now. Like un-finihed projects. I started doing a Blog on them and while not alot of people read them its still a post and I hear from the long time members. However if I posted that same progress on the projects page I would recieve many more comments.

You and I have been on here for about the same time and watched this site grow ten fold. I’m quicly approaching 10k comments, so you can tell I love it here. But man, some of the post’s can be different. I have read through some real bickering on here as well. I had one member attack me personally on a comment only to find out he does that to many members. With this many members there will always be a few.

I still think this is one of the greatest sites around, How else would you and I have becme friends?

Will get trough it and hope that they will learn like most of us and try to be senseable.

Let have a beer Mate!

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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#31 posted 03-08-2012 03:54 PM

I agree that the site has become so large that I cannot decide where to look. I feel overwhelmed when I logon. Other sites have to strict posting rules. What is the happy medium?

It seems most members do not read the rules for posting. I do not know how to moderate this since I am not a “computer person”.

I will just continue scanning through each day. See some good miss some good. Things need to be categorized better. Just seems to be a little messy right now.

-- Bill - If I knew GRANDKIDS were so much fun I would have had them first.

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#32 posted 03-08-2012 03:56 PM

I think it would be a good thing if the site management could put out an anonymous questionnaire on a regular basis which would indicate the problems. In my mind such a questionnaire would be multiple choice questions shaped to give a good idea of what the membership lacks/wants. With this type of questionnaire it would be easy to collate the info automatically and produce a meaningful report. Those who didn’t care just wouldn’t fill out the form.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#33 posted 03-08-2012 04:05 PM

Martin…do you have any input on this?

I agree and do not like to see all the unrelated stuff in the projects section. More tabs at the top defining the different categories of work would be nice.
How about deleting the postings in the wrong places and making the members take a multiple-choice common sense posting test before being allowed to post any further projects.

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#34 posted 03-08-2012 04:05 PM

hmmmm….life is too short to get my panties on a wad just because of errors in posting on a forum. I see forums like this as half entertainment and half information/inspiration.

-- To surrender a dream leaves life as it is — and not as it could be.

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#35 posted 03-08-2012 04:47 PM

”and making the members take a multiple-choice common sense posting test before being allowed to post any further projects.”

Well … I had a good run, there, for a while.

I want to thank you all for your comments, suggestions, and support.

The bar has FINALLY been set TOO high for me to clear ;-)

-- -- Neil

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#36 posted 03-08-2012 04:51 PM

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#37 posted 03-08-2012 04:57 PM

Jim: I simply cannot smoke that much weed, anymore.

It’s not that I don’t WANT to. I just can’t ;-)

-- -- Neil

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#38 posted 03-08-2012 05:04 PM

Larry It is my belief that you are out actively searching for non conforming projects to complain about. I say this because you singled me out as one of your prey for posting “Zig Zag Pattern Steps” in the project’s forum, and said that needed to be in blog’s, which by the way concerned me greatly. As a new comer to this site I do not want to offend anyone. It took me some time to rectify the situation and found that you were mistaken and that the Zig Zag thing was in fact posted correctly. Then I got an apology from you and all is well.
Then along comes this post “POSTING IN INAPPROPRIATE SECTIONS. I now realized that I was a victim of your rage. Working yourself up over this is meaningless, you must be working hard to put on an angry face, I don’t believe for a second that you are really bothered by this for more that the time you are sitting at your computer on this website manufacturing complaints. Try to see the love and try to see the need for a little pat on the back for their accomplishments from some of these kids who are new in life, Larry you do some really nice work out in your shop, If all this bothers you so—go out and create something for us all to enjoy. Peace Bro

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#39 posted 03-08-2012 05:33 PM

LOL..so Kenny, don’t hold back, please tell us how you really feel….. :-)

Follow your own advice and don’t let things like this work you up so much….

-- To surrender a dream leaves life as it is — and not as it could be.

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#40 posted 03-08-2012 05:40 PM

wow, this has really gotten out of hand…this is why i dont get into the threads…and i shouldnt have gotten into this one…its safer staying out…even though i do agree with larry, folks should post in the right spots, and if it is a project, its should be one that is finished, otherwise post it on a blog…but to much drama here…back to the shop i go….....

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#41 posted 03-08-2012 05:57 PM

Jgm,

I’m not mad at all, really. I don’t let things get me mad. I’m just aggravated that people get their panties in a wad over stupid crap. If I was mad, you can trust my post would have been much more harsh.

What did get me a bit peeved (though not even to the point of a bloodpressure spike) was lizardhead talking about receiving a PM from Larry. That is out of line and in no way acceptable. Not under any circumstance. And that, is not stupid crap. That is a fellow LJ’s member being treated unfairly, and I do not like that at all.

Self-policing a forum is a serious issue, and I pray it doesn’t get out of hand here. As well I pity the sorry soul who ever decides to PM me in that manner.

-- Kenny

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#42 posted 03-08-2012 06:45 PM

Hi Kenny…

Kenny said and should do same, IMO:

”...So, shut up, mind your own business, and stop making everyone else feel unwelcome….”

Hmm…

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#43 posted 03-08-2012 07:22 PM

So Mike, how does your saying it make it right or OK then?

Everyone can be rude to whoever makes a mistake and posts something where it doesn’t belong. But when you call out the one truly making a problem, that’s a problem?

And how does your opinion mean any more than mine?

Again, if people listened to what I said, we wouldn’t be having this conversation, now would we?

Just an FYI, if people hadn’t started this issue and begun being rude to others unnecessarily, I never would have said a word. But I will not just sit idle while someone makes every person who has ever misplaced a post feel unwelcome.

If anyone has ever received a rude PM or had me reprimand you in any way about where or what you post, speak up. I’d love to see anyone who has ever had me dictate to them what they can/can’t post or where they should post anything.

Now again, refer to my earlier statement if you feel it necessary to police the forum and you are not a moderator.

-- Kenny

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#44 posted 03-08-2012 07:31 PM

I did not say it, you did. Since you said it, you should also be willing to live by your own words and do same.
OR
If it is wrong to say, then you are/were wrong to say it and should apologize for having said such.

If you are offended when such words are directed at you, what/how do you think about such words when they flow from YOUR mouth? And RE your moderator comment, NOR ARE YOU Kenny.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#45 posted 03-08-2012 07:45 PM

Is this the right room for an argument?

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters

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#46 posted 03-08-2012 07:49 PM

I like it the way it is. The variety is invigorating.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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#47 posted 03-08-2012 07:58 PM

ChuckV—Thanks for the chuckle. This may be my favorite internet video yet… May have to refer to this when I disagree with something… Back to the woodworking for me.

Thanks.

-- Mike, Missouri --- “A positive life can not happen with a negative mind.” ---

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#48 posted 03-08-2012 08:00 PM

What is with you people? So what if somebody posts in a different area than they should. Some of you act as if it were a major crime and punishable by death. Any one of the threads are open to interpretation and in light of that some posts can fit in more than one thread. A great example is Power Tools and Hand Tools threads. A Router is a power tool, but at the same time a hand held tool as well as many other woodworking tools that encompass both threads. I realize I am stretching it a little, but I would hope you are smart enough to understand my meaning.

What is the problem with showing off a partially built project in the projects thread? Maybe the person posting needs help or maybe throw out a procedure another woodworker might like to incorporate to one of their projects. A project is a project is a project, no matter how complete it is. Even a jig or fixture is a project so there are two more threads open to interpretation. Projects and Jigs and Fixtures Threads.

And Grizzman what is with your attitude toward new members bowing down to the older members? Just because you have been a member for 3 to 4 years doesn’t give you the right to think you are better than anybody that is a member of Lumberjocks, no matter how new they are. Are you sure you even know the meaning of respect because from your point of view new members are not allowed respect from older members. In essence that is precisely what you are saying so please don’t try to dance around what you inferred. To a certain degree your attitude toward new members could be interpreted very much like a racist attitude don’t you think? Most people join Lumberjacks to gain knowledge or pass along knowledge in the field of woodworking and related areas, not to be subjected to ridicule or degradation like second class citizens if they don’t measure up to another members standards.

I know I have learned a few things since being a member for the last year, including things related to woodworking and would like to think I passed along a few things helpful to others no matter how trivial.

-- If it won't fit get a BIGGER hammer.

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grizzman

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#49 posted 03-08-2012 08:07 PM

my comment meant to say and this is what i meant, is that the older members do know how the rules of posting are suppose to be..and the newer members could learn from that..that is all it meant, please dont add meaning to what i said, so with that, everyone will do what they want, if you dont care to listen to what some of the older members are saying, then do as you please…i will leave this to martin and those who take care of such matters, done…..have a great day ken..and everyone else too, its a beautiful day out….and ive got work to do…ta ta….....

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#50 posted 03-08-2012 08:27 PM

Anybody find anything in the Eskimo Pie or Klondike Bar category that I should try, or … better just to stick with these two known quantities ?

I’m kinda’ jonesing for an ice cream sandwich, and SOMEBODY on this site … STILL hasn’t mailed me the promised free ice cream coupons :-p

[Just joshing you. You know that !]

-- -- Neil

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