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Work bench smack down

by Newage Neanderthal
posted 11-04-2011 09:18 PM


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ADN

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#17601 posted 12-04-2016 11:30 PM

Thanks for the compliments….

This is the only handy photo of the LN tail vise, almost didn’t go for it because the Benchcrafted wagon vise is so easy to install comparatively, used one on another bench.

The extra effort to install the LN is more than worth it, pays for itself almost everyday….

-- mos maiorum

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Marcial

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#17602 posted 12-05-2016 12:15 AM

ADN- great bench. Must have had a crane and a bunch of mates helping you with the assembly. Mine’s about half that weight and it was, uh, challenging dealing with the components.
Here’s my entry- It’s kind of a Frankenbench with being able to vary the height from 30” to 42” while remaining stable being the biggest challenge. Also wanted to be able to move the thing, thus the casters. I got the idea of a variable height bench from retro.net but could not afford their base. Mine would up 10-15 cents on their dollar. I spent a fair amount of time reading up on benches which is how I wound up joining this forum.
This is at 34” benchtop height. The top was too heavy for me to take to get sanded, so that was the reason for getting a Veritas #7 jointer plane. A workout.

This is at 38” height. Much more back friendly for working on the bench dogs, which were finished today

There’s as many ways to make these things as there are folks making them. Here’s mine

The pattern makers vise and Benchcrafted end vise were purchased from Highland Woodworking. Great folks to do business with.

There is storage area for straight edges and for my two Festool tracks.

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ToddJB

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#17603 posted 12-05-2016 02:03 AM

Sweet benches.

-- I came - I sawed - I over-built

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woodcox

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#17604 posted 12-05-2016 02:41 PM

That made the morning, thanks! Amazing benches. Well done you guys.

-- "My god has more wood than your god" ... G. Carlin.

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CL810

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#17605 posted 12-05-2016 03:25 PM

Great work ADN and Marcia!

Rules?!? We don’t need no stinking rules!

-- "The only limits to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today." - FDR

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theoldfart

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#17606 posted 12-05-2016 03:42 PM

Those are two fine benches folks and as it should be they will last for generations. Nice work.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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ADN

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#17607 posted 12-05-2016 04:21 PM

”ADN- great bench. Must have had a crane and a bunch of mates helping you with the assembly. Mine’s about half that weight and it was, uh, challenging dealing with the components. “

Marcia: The split top helps a lot, I’ve had the tops off at least 3 times, during the build, and have moved it once….

That’s some outstanding engineering on the lift mechanics, how low can it go? I’m disabled, design things for wheelchair access whenever feasible, so I’m always looking for “solutions”....

To All:

No telling how many times I’ve looked at this thread, before and during my build, thanks to everyone that posted their work….

Was severely wounded in Iraq, and there are days that have to be spent in bed so looking at sites like this are an inspiration.

Highest Regards,
Andy

-- mos maiorum

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BurlyBob

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#17608 posted 12-05-2016 04:30 PM

Andy, You have my respect and appreciation for your service. Thank you!
Your bench is truly awesome. Like you I’ve been studying this forum before starting my bench. Hopefully, it begins shortly after the first of the year.

My Best,
Bob

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Marcial

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#17609 posted 12-05-2016 06:11 PM

To All: Thanks for the comments. This is one long thread!
Andy- one of the reasons there’s open space under the top is for leg room and the option of using it as a standard height desk. I’m at the age where posterity is in the horizon and design stuff to be as multi-functional as possible. At its lowest height the open space is 26” high and 12” deep which is standard desk/table height. Wheelchairs are higher than standard desk/dining chairs so at the height of the first photo, there is 30” of under table knee space which may be better for a wheel chair. Your Moxon work area is noteworthy- that’s next on the list for me (after the holidays). To end, your shop looks like a great space- hope you post photos.

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ADN

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#17610 posted 12-05-2016 06:37 PM

Bob:

Thanks much, raining and cold today in south TX, 47 deg! ;-) so I’m inside…...

Did most of the bench with hand tools, cut the dog holes with my MF miter box and the knocked, the waste with chisel and cleaned them up with a router plane.

Because of hand tool use, I was able to build it on my front porch….one warning, because of the time involved in the build my wife grew tired of the porch being covered in wood chips, tools and a giant bench!

Looking back it really didn’t take much longer than on a table saw and did not have to try and wrestle an 12ft 2×6 for dado cuts at an angle.

Hand tool path started because of possible nails hidden in the reclaimed wood, hand plane blades are much simpler to fix a nick in a plane blade.

Most of the wood was true 4×4 and 2×12s, here’s a photo of some of the wood:

Regards,
Andy

-- mos maiorum

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Dan Krager

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#17611 posted 12-05-2016 07:16 PM

Two fabulous benches!
I strongly considered the mechanism you ended up using Marcial, but expense was a consideration. The other was that I could not be confident of stability at the extended height. So I went with a design I copied from Norden Adjustabench. It’s easy and cheap to do in wood, and I had the 2” hedge to absolutely guarantee solidity. One serendipity is that the bench disassembles and is manageable by one person but stays put very solidly when assembled.


These are not very good pictures, but the idea should be evident. It’s modular so a leg vise is possible too. Something like this:

DanK

-- Dan Krager, Olney IL http://www.kragerwoodworking.weebly.com All my life I've wanted to be someone. I see now I should have been more specific.

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Combo Prof

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#17612 posted 12-05-2016 08:48 PM

Could a pneumatic Jack be used some how to lift the Top to the proper height, or perhaps a winch?

Or a Harbor Freight 500 lb. Capacity Hydraulic Table Cart
with some sort of stabilizing mechanism affixed after lifting.

(The reviews of the Harbor Freight Hydraulic cart are mixed. Some have had no trouble but others had troubles.)

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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Spelcher

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#17613 posted 12-05-2016 10:50 PM

Beautiful benches guys! Impressive design and execution all around!

ADN, that’s a beautiful monster – and love the moxon. With your benchtop acreage you could probably just leave it on most of the time eh?

Marcial – I love the handwheel for raising and lowering, and cool take on the springs for square dogs.

DanK, those picture show the mechanism a bit more clearly – I can finally see how it works. Cool design!

-- Jason

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Dan Krager

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#17614 posted 12-05-2016 11:02 PM

A pair of scissor jacks lift and lower my SIL adjustable bench. A little awkward because the legs bind in their receivers a little bit. They are linked together under the tool cabinets and make the lift pretty easy.
DanK

-- Dan Krager, Olney IL http://www.kragerwoodworking.weebly.com All my life I've wanted to be someone. I see now I should have been more specific.

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ADN

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#17615 posted 12-06-2016 12:46 AM

ADN, that’s a beautiful monster – and love the moxon. With your benchtop acreage you could probably just leave it on most of the time…”

Thanks, and yes the Moxon use to stay on the bench, but since the photo, made a separate jointer bench with it.

Regards,
Andy

-- mos maiorum

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duckmilk

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#17616 posted 12-06-2016 01:33 AM

WOW and WOW to both of you! They are both superb! (And I was just thinking of building a traditional bench. Makes me feel insufficient in some way.)

-- "Duck and Bob would be out doin some farming with funny hats on." chrisstef

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Marcial

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#17617 posted 12-06-2016 03:57 AM

Dan K. Thanks for the + comments. Your jigs are just mind blowing! As for the cost of screw jack, pricing US retail gave major sticker shock. JACTON INDUSTRY CO.,LTD a Chinese supplier was way more reasonable, with about 40% of the cost coming from door to door shipping. That's who I used for a couple of Festool MFT's that with adjustable height and casters became really multifunctional. eBay and my local metal shop were my sources for the frankenbench.
duckmilk- it’s by no means perfect. One of these days (probably after the holidays) I’ll fill in the sordid details. Let’s just say those were my first dovetails and with only one practice run instead of the afternoon doing dovetails I had been advised to do prior to the real thing.

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Combo Prof

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#17618 posted 12-06-2016 12:35 PM

Marcial, how did you get a “Fixed width font”?

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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Marcial

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#17619 posted 12-06-2016 03:08 PM

Don K- must have been the ghost in the machine.

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Mosquito

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#17620 posted 12-06-2016 03:12 PM

Don, prefix and postfix with an @

like this

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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Combo Prof

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#17621 posted 12-06-2016 06:35 PM

Very nice. Where is this explained? More precisely what is the name of the formating/posting software called? Then I can read up on it.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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Mosquito

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#17622 posted 12-06-2016 06:47 PM

I have no idea what the software is, or if there’s somewhere to view stuff like that. I just quoted his post, and saw that it was because he used @ before Dan K. and duckmilk.

It looks like it interprets the @ and swaps it for <code> tags. Which also work, or <pre> tags. It’s a weird system lol

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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Combo Prof

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#17623 posted 12-06-2016 08:21 PM



I have no idea what the software is, or if there s somewhere to view stuff like that. I just quoted his post, and saw that it was because he used @ before Dan K. and duckmilk.

It looks like it interprets the @ and swaps it for tags. Which also work, or

 tags.  It s a weird system lol

- Mosquito

I quoted it too befor asking and apparently missed the @ LOL. so how did Marcial find this code.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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Mosquito

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#17624 posted 12-06-2016 08:24 PM

probably by accident lol

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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Combo Prof

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#17625 posted 12-06-2016 08:29 PM

I got it.

He wrote “At ” Dan K. for a directed response to Dan K. as one would do in many other forums and then “At” duckmilk for a directed response to duckmilk. It was just a coincidence that he had two “At”s to turn it on and off.

Anyway this means we can now make tables of things. Like

Bedrock 605 ..... $45.00
Diston D8 ....... $20.50

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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Mosquito

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#17626 posted 12-06-2016 09:01 PM

we already could make tables, as we discovered a while ago, and people broke the forums lol

Stanley #45Complete awesome
Record #405Not as Awesome

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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theoldfart

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#17627 posted 12-06-2016 09:06 PM

AHEM, you yankee dog!

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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Mosquito

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#17628 posted 12-06-2016 09:08 PM

lol I added that specifically figuring you’d call me out Kevin :-P

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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theoldfart

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#17629 posted 12-06-2016 09:18 PM

It worked, am I that predictable?

On second thought, don’t answer that. :-0

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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Combo Prof

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#17630 posted 12-06-2016 10:24 PM



we already could make tables, as we discovered a while ago, and people broke the forums lol

Stanley #45Complete awesomeRecord #405Not as Awesome

- Mosquito

O.K. I give up I even tried quoting. How did you make the table!

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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splatman

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#17631 posted 12-06-2016 11:10 PM



I got it.

He wrote “At ” Dan K. for a directed response to Dan K. as one would do in many other forums and then “At” duckmilk for a directed response to duckmilk. It was just a coincidence that he had two “At”s to turn it on and off.

Anyway this means we can now make tables of things. Like

Bedrock 605 ..... $45.00
Diston D8 ....... $20.50

- Combo Prof


Back on topic: Has anyone built a Star Wars themed workbench?

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Kent

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#17632 posted 12-06-2016 11:15 PM


O.K. I give up I even tried quoting. How did you make the table!

Can we please NOT do this again?

See: Page 48 of this thread (http://lumberjocks.com/replies/on/1586054/page/48). Scroll down to see the full effect of where this can go. You can also go here to sort out what really happened, if you are so inclined.

I told you that I read the whole thread ;-) I even remembered some of it.

-- If I knew then what I know now, I'd have made a completely different set of mistakes.

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Combo Prof

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#17633 posted 12-07-2016 12:58 AM

Sure. I did not know there was an issue.

-- Don K, (Holland, Michigan)

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putty

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#17634 posted 12-07-2016 02:35 PM

Since y’all are talking about formatting, how do you copy something and highlight it in yellow?

-- Putty

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Mosquito

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#17635 posted 12-07-2016 02:51 PM



Can we please NOT do this again?

See: Page 48 of this thread (http://lumberjocks.com/replies/on/1586054/page/48). Scroll down to see the full effect of where this can go. You can also go here to sort out what really happened, if you are so inclined.

I told you that I read the whole thread ;-) I even remembered some of it.

- KentInOttawa

lol yes, and I haven’t laughed so much while reading LumberJocks since that all happened lol Hence my statement above about people breaking the forums :-D


Since y all are talking about formatting, how do you copy something and highlight it in yellow?

- putty

Do you mean like this? You use the “Quote” link under someone’s post

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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Brit

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#17636 posted 12-07-2016 03:12 PM

Then you get your yellow highlighter and draw over the text you want to highlight on your screen. Don’t scroll up or down afterwards though.

-- Andy - Old Chinese proverb says: "If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it."

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putty

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#17637 posted 12-07-2016 03:14 PM

Do you mean like this? You use the “Quote” link under someone s post

Thanks Mos…I never noticed that before…Duh

but how do you just select only one sentence of a post.. I had to backspace
through the rest of your post for just that one sentence.

Now everything I type after that sentence is also highlighted

-- Putty

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WillliamMSP

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#17638 posted 12-07-2016 03:20 PM

^^^ You have to type your message after the blockquote brackets.

-- Practice makes less sucky. (Bill, Minneapolis, MN)

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putty

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#17639 posted 12-07-2016 03:22 PM

Thanks Mos and Andy
One last dumb question, where is the yellow highlighter

-- Putty

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putty

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#17640 posted 12-07-2016 03:24 PM



^^^ You have to type your message after the blockquote brackets.

- WillliamMSP

Got it…Thanks Bill
Now for the yellow highlighter

-- Putty

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theoldfart

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#17641 posted 12-07-2016 03:25 PM

work bench thread?

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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putty

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#17642 posted 12-07-2016 03:27 PM

Sorry, there were some other formatting discussions and I followed up with a question.

-- Putty

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theoldfart

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#17643 posted 12-07-2016 03:31 PM

Not you putty, just thought the stream of formatting posts was funny. I have a lot of folks in the office I work in always asking how to do formatting in word and excel and those posts are what i hear all the time!

ok a work bench post

just as a side note, I just screwed up the piece on the bench!

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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Mosquito

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#17644 posted 12-07-2016 03:38 PM

It’s a running table Kevin, you’re a genius! Put an axle in the middle and spin that sucker up to get the table where ever you want!

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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putty

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#17645 posted 12-07-2016 03:40 PM

LOL
Sign of a good craftsman is how well they fix their mistakes.

-- Putty

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Brit

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#17646 posted 12-07-2016 03:49 PM

If Picasso made a table, it would look like that. After your death, it will be worth millions!

-- Andy - Old Chinese proverb says: "If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it."

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Brit

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#17647 posted 12-07-2016 04:04 PM

I cut a piece of wood to the wrong length, not once, not twice, but three fuggin’ times once and don’t even get me started on how much coving I’ve mitered incorrectly and thrown in the skip when I was remodeling my house.

-- Andy - Old Chinese proverb says: "If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it."

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theoldfart

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#17648 posted 12-07-2016 04:07 PM

“coving I’ve mitered incorrectly” yup, me too! inside/outside is hard!

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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ToddJB

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#17649 posted 12-07-2016 04:13 PM

Kev, if that’s a four legged table won’t the left one work for the left back side?

-- I came - I sawed - I over-built

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theoldfart

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#17650 posted 12-07-2016 04:18 PM

Todd, the sides are already fitted and the mortises are asymmetric.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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