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Work bench smack down

by Newage Neanderthal
posted 11-04-2011 09:18 PM


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richardwootton

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#9601 posted 02-23-2014 05:25 PM

You guys totally aren’t allowing for movement! It’ll bow and warp that concrete floor in no time!

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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Dan Krager

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#9602 posted 02-23-2014 05:56 PM

...and losing 3” to the heat, you’d end up banging your head on the ceiling (floor…whichever) like our dwarf brother, BRK.
DanK

-- Dan Krager, Olney IL http://www.kragerwoodworking.weebly.com All my life I've wanted to be someone. I see now I should have been more specific.

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Slyy

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#9603 posted 02-23-2014 09:07 PM

This thread is “LumberJocULARITY” at its best. Always love when the “serious” threads take a hard turn into total non-serious rib-poking!!! Strong work fellas.

John, I am worried the racking is going to tear up your floor as well, is it a reinforced slab?

-- Jake -- "Not only do we live among the stars, the stars live within us." - Neil Degrasse Tyson

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BigRedKnothead

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#9604 posted 02-23-2014 09:35 PM

Nothin’ wrong with a little goofin. I miss being a kid….

-- "At the end of the day, try and make it beautiful....because the world is full of ugly." Konrad Sauer

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john2005

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#9605 posted 02-23-2014 09:55 PM

^BWAHAHAHAHAHA, I totally believe that to be you, Red. That’s awesome!

-- In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

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richardwootton

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#9606 posted 02-23-2014 10:20 PM

That kid’s clothes are totally being worn by a hipster somewhere who found them at a thrift store.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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shampeon

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#9607 posted 02-23-2014 10:58 PM

Red: how did you find my eHarmony profile pic??!! I thought that was set to “private.”

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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Slyy

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#9608 posted 02-23-2014 10:59 PM

O – M – G…........

My wife looked at me six ways cross eyed when I started laughing at that picture!!!!

As of this thread needed more “epic” in it!!!

-- Jake -- "Not only do we live among the stars, the stars live within us." - Neil Degrasse Tyson

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BigRedKnothead

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#9609 posted 02-23-2014 11:24 PM

hehehe… I’ve got some real ones from my childhood that are probably just as funny.

-- "At the end of the day, try and make it beautiful....because the world is full of ugly." Konrad Sauer

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Dan Krager

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#9610 posted 02-23-2014 11:49 PM

I knew right off that picture wasn’t taken by Red’s camera. The chickens are WAY too big…
DanK

-- Dan Krager, Olney IL http://www.kragerwoodworking.weebly.com All my life I've wanted to be someone. I see now I should have been more specific.

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john2005

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#9611 posted 02-24-2014 01:40 AM

Yeah but it’s probably a miniature pig. He was probably at the circus or something. They have giant chickens and tiny pigs, right?

On a serious note, its gettin real here.

-- In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

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john2005

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#9612 posted 02-24-2014 01:43 AM

Now just meet to build chops and a deadman, drill some dog holes and splash some finish on it.

-- In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#9613 posted 02-24-2014 01:46 AM

^ Very Nice!!!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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WillliamMSP

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#9614 posted 02-24-2014 02:01 AM

That is gettin’ real! Nice!

-- Practice makes less sucky. (Bill, Minneapolis, MN)

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woodcox

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#9615 posted 02-24-2014 02:17 AM

Sweet. Looks very tall.

-- "My god has more wood than your god" ... G. Carlin.

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Slyy

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#9616 posted 02-24-2014 02:21 AM

I smell a bondo pose!!

-- Jake -- "Not only do we live among the stars, the stars live within us." - Neil Degrasse Tyson

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Pezking7p

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#9617 posted 02-24-2014 02:32 AM

I see you ignored every single suggestion we had about bench design. Touché.

-- -Dan

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#9618 posted 02-24-2014 02:37 AM

We call that “pimp sauce” back in the hood John.

-- "At the end of the day, try and make it beautiful....because the world is full of ugly." Konrad Sauer

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#9619 posted 02-24-2014 02:46 AM

John, yer doin it man.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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#9620 posted 02-24-2014 02:47 AM

John that bench is looking amazing man! Great work. Cant wait to see it with finish on it.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#9621 posted 02-24-2014 02:51 AM

Kevin, sorry just getting back to you on your post from 2 days ago. I used 3-2-1 on my bench. Works pretty well, the BLO keeps glue from sticking and the poly a little protection from stains. I only did one coat.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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john2005

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#9622 posted 02-24-2014 04:26 AM

Nah, Woodcox, it’s not terribly tall, I just have a lot of small tools…..

Seriously though it’s about 35.5”. My saw horses that I have been using are 35 and sometimes feel just a bit low. I am 6’3” and it’s all in the leg so it feels good to me.

-- In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

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#9623 posted 02-24-2014 12:03 PM

Looks great John! Looking forward to more pics.

-- "The only limits to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today." - FDR

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#9624 posted 02-24-2014 02:19 PM

Looks very nice, John! Excellent dovetails and craftsmanship!

-- tr ...see one, do one, teach one...

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Slyy

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#9625 posted 02-25-2014 02:23 AM

John, you still actively blogging on your build?
It’s looking fantastic so far, can’t wait to see her done!

-- Jake -- "Not only do we live among the stars, the stars live within us." - Neil Degrasse Tyson

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#9626 posted 02-25-2014 04:23 AM

Nah, I haven’t kept up the blog in awhile. I keep meaning to but our computer died and I’m not about to do it on this tablet. I’m a slow enough typer as it is. I’ll get it caught up soon.

Question for the panel. What to finish with? I understand BLO or a mixture thereof is the common thing. What are y’alls thoughts?

-- In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

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#9627 posted 02-25-2014 04:25 AM

Also, having never used BLO, (no seriously) gimme some preferred application methods. Thanks in advance.

-- In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

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#9628 posted 02-25-2014 04:33 AM

-- Eric - "I'm getting proficient with these hand jobbers. - BigRedKnothead"

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#9629 posted 02-25-2014 04:58 AM

I think Clayton blogged about his bench finish method. I use danish oil….which is just a mixture with a little varnish in it.

BLO by itself won’t protect much. And it will take forever to dry.

-- "At the end of the day, try and make it beautiful....because the world is full of ugly." Konrad Sauer

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#9630 posted 02-25-2014 05:05 AM

I use blo quite a bit for shop stuff…I go 3 oil to 1 mineral spirits +-. Wiped it off after an hour or two, and let it hang for 24 hours..either way works..

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#9631 posted 02-25-2014 06:09 AM

Facepalmed when I flipped through the Better Homes and Garden magazine that I have no idea why we get. Never signed up for it. Apparently a leg vise under a table makes for good decor?

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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#9632 posted 02-25-2014 01:39 PM

John, on my bench I used diluted BLO—2 parts MS to 1 part BLO. Used a foam brush to apply, waited a bit and wiped off with a rag. Using the BLO diluted that much allowed it to dry relatively quickly and the finish is easy to refresh. I did three coats and the last one did take a bit to cure—maybe 2 or 3 days.

If doing it again, I don’t know if I’d use the BLO,, but with only two coats, or just do a single coat of Watco Danish Oil and call it good.

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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#9633 posted 02-25-2014 02:01 PM

I just wiped on a coat of tung oil with a rag. Improved the color of my red oak bench a bit and does seem to prevent glue drips from staining if I wipe them up relatively soonish. I specifically did not want any finish to build on the surface that would make it slippery. In fact, I lightly sanded the top and vice areas afterwards.

-- Turning beautiful wood into scraps...one board at a time --Chris

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#9634 posted 02-25-2014 04:30 PM

John, I also used 3:2:1 and I am very happy with EXCEPT for the top. I like having the protection of a poly film finish for rest of my bench but for the top surface go with a danish oil.

-- "It's only wood. Use it." - Smitty || Instagram - out_of_focus1.618

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#9635 posted 02-25-2014 04:38 PM

I agree that BLO (any hardware store brand) will do well on the top, it will allow you to do glue ups directly on the top. Let the glue dry and it will pop right off. You will plane it routinely so protecting against staines isnt big deal.

The added poly would be good for the base though. I have a “finishing board” to protect my top when staining or painting or what not but stuff does drip of onto the base so the poly would by good.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#9636 posted 02-25-2014 05:40 PM

Now that my bench will be moving into a new shop location, I will probably finally apply some finish to it. Only problem is that I’ve already glued leather to my leg vise chop… I was thinking I might just do some danish oil all around though. But I suppose I could poly all but the top slab, as I’ve got the ability to remove the top from everything else

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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#9637 posted 02-25-2014 06:49 PM

I’ve been thinking I’d just use the Watco teak oil. I’ve used it on other projects with good success. Either that or good ol Danish oil.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#9638 posted 02-25-2014 06:54 PM

Mos, I don’t see any problem wiping around the leather with Danish oil, do you think it would interfere with the glue on the chop?

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#9639 posted 02-25-2014 07:47 PM

Thanks for all the input. Still a ways from making that decision, but want to have some info from experienced individuals to work with.

-- In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

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#9640 posted 02-25-2014 07:50 PM

that’s a good point Richard, I guess it shouldn’t hurt the leather, I was just thinking I didn’t want to get any oil finish on it, as it may interfere with its intended purpose of adding grip, though I may be wrong on that topic…

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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#9641 posted 02-25-2014 10:02 PM

+1 to Watco as an effective (and easy) benchtop finish. Glue does not absorb, it’s a hard finish over time but not shiny. Need more, just ‘wipe on, wipe off’ with some time in between.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#9642 posted 02-26-2014 06:12 PM

Trying to clean up the stuff that’s always in the tool well…in the way. Shaped this little bracket from ?white oak yesterday that attaches to the sides of my tool well via countersunk hex screws. Love this Veritas clamp when in use, hate storing it in a dog hole, just too difficult to extract sometimes! So, the bracket. A quick turn of the brass knob locks the clamp securely in place. And outta the way!

As you can see, I’m planning a lil surgery on my tool well. Earlier, I bored those square holes in the well for a standard f style clamp to pass through and grab stuff on the bench top, covered the holes with walnut for bling. Unfortunately, the massive rear apron on this bench prevents anyone with a post op back from reaching the stupid clamps! LOL.

Gonna cut the whole mess out and start over!!!

-- tr ...see one, do one, teach one...

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richardwootton

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#9643 posted 02-26-2014 07:38 PM

Looking good Terry, I’m glad you posted this because in my original design ideas I had been planning a bench with a big apron like yours but have since changed direction.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#9644 posted 02-27-2014 03:58 PM

Today, while looking at
http://unpluggedshop.com/ , I found something very different about workbenches :
If you don’t know your hyvelbenk from a skottbenk – you should

which itself contains the following link

have a look at this

and a pdf document about making wooden screw wich seems very interesting
If only I knew the Sweden language.

-- Sylvain, Brussels, Belgium, Europe - The more I learn, the more there is to learn

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Sylvain

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#9645 posted 02-27-2014 04:09 PM

And Shipwright will probably appreciate
this and this

On the other side this
is about “why make it simple when you can make it complicated”.
The double quick clamping mecanism is interesting.

-- Sylvain, Brussels, Belgium, Europe - The more I learn, the more there is to learn

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shipwright

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#9646 posted 02-27-2014 07:18 PM

Thanks Sylvain, I do appreciate them. I didn’t verify the angles but they may well be “H8 Wedge Powered”
(That would be “Horizontal 8 degree”) I personally prefer vertical because the logo comes out cooler. :-)

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#9647 posted 03-02-2014 09:08 PM

Three of five glue-ups done for the bench top (red oak STILL smells when wet ) and ordered Lake Erie screw set up and BenchCrafted crises cross.. When someone says you can never have enough clamps, heed them!

edit added pic

I counted 27

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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richardwootton

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#9648 posted 03-03-2014 01:31 AM

Kevin I’m in the same boat and need a lot more clamps! Too bad it’s been raining cats and friggin’ dogs all damn day, and on my day off, so I haven’t made a lick of progress on anything. Crap, now I’m starting to sound like Stef!

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#9649 posted 03-03-2014 02:10 AM

Richard, we may have to have an intervention by the Anti Stef Squad!

I need to make a couple dozen cauls for the final glue-up, it should be a scary time. :0)

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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#9650 posted 03-03-2014 02:14 AM

Kevin has gone clamp crazy!

-- -Dan

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