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What fits in your SUV?

by Billp
posted 07-10-2011 10:16 AM


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#1 posted 07-10-2011 12:22 PM

A 4×8 sheet of ply will lay flat in my Xtera ….............. if I cut it in thirds. ;^))

-- ♫♪♪♫♫ Saddletramp, saddletramp, I'm as free as the breeze and I ride where I please, saddletramp ♪♪♪♫♪ ...... Bob W....NW Michigan (Traverse City area)

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#2 posted 07-10-2011 01:43 PM

Get the SUV with a roof rack.
You can carry a lot of stuff up there.

Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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#3 posted 07-10-2011 01:46 PM

This ol’ boy in Texas has the ”truck” and a Harley, and about the only thing I can think of getting ”in my SUV” would be my rifle sights. Aren’t those things something like one of those citified Minivans? Come on Bill, the truck even holds your pair of you know whut so you don’t have to grow new ones!

;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#4 posted 07-10-2011 01:58 PM

if you get an suv get a trailer. my wife has a yukon xl. they dont get much. i doubt a 4×8 sheet would fit in it. plus the interior’s are nice enough you really wouldnt’t want to put it in there

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#5 posted 07-10-2011 03:51 PM

SUVs are great for hauling people and groceries, but the suck at plywood and lumber. If you can find one that will take a sheet of plywood laying flat, grab it. But I don’t know of any.

I faced the same problem recently. My wife wasn’t crazy about the truck idea either, but I finally convinced her that an extended cab pickup was the way for me to go. Price was on the plus side…. with rebates and dealer discounts, I got my 2011 Chevy Silverado LS for an even $20k with all the necessary creature comforts. It’s got a full bench seat in the back that folds up and down, so I can sit 6 pretty comfortably. It’s the best of both worlds. Only negative is that it sure is thirsty. :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#6 posted 07-10-2011 04:07 PM

I don’t know if my Pontiac Montana can lay a sheet of 4 X 8 flat. (I kind of doubt it.)
But, once the guy at the big stamping plant I was getting those beautiful Oak crates from gave me the green light, you WOULDN’T BELIEVE how many of those things I was able to stuff in there each night after work !!! LOL
And I’ve got to admit, that comment from HorizontalMike was funny as hell.
I think I’m going to use Charlies tactic when this van gives up, and convince her of the attributes of an extended cab pick up. (Unless this darn gas price keeps going up).

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#7 posted 07-10-2011 04:18 PM

There are lots of small trailers on CL in my area for small $. I think this would be MUCH better than cramming stuff in an SUV and trashing it. Just a thought.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#8 posted 07-10-2011 04:38 PM

I forget if it’s the state or the insurance company that calls my 1991 GMC Suburban a SUV. It does allow full sheets to lay flat I know several people with various “real” SUVs. Plan on picking up a trailer too.

-- Dragonsrite, Minnesota

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#9 posted 07-10-2011 04:58 PM

If you are planning on putting a trailer hitch on some of these newer vehicles, check before you buy, some
of the new unibody designs will not allow you to easily mount a trailer hitch that can pull a substantial trailer.
Still remember the person that wanted to buy a new (at that time) 1978 Subaru wagon to pull a horse
trailer, thought all 4X4s had lots of power and could go anywhere.

-- As ever, Gus-the 80 yr young apprentice carpenter

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#10 posted 07-10-2011 05:29 PM

It’s not an SUV but my chyrsler mini van can haul 4×8 shhets of plywood with the door closed, you can get some 10fter slide between the front seats. The nice thing is you dont have to take the seats out to get a flat floor the fold into the foor and you are ready to go. It is great in the snow in a wisconsin winter, its not sexy or a lot of fun to drive but it is great for moving anything you want to haul.

-- Alex

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#11 posted 07-10-2011 05:45 PM

I can get 4×8 sheets in my ‘71 VW bus with no problem. Try to sell that idea to your boss . . . =)

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#12 posted 07-10-2011 05:54 PM

Living off of lake Erie in the snow belt I opted for a E-150 cargo van instead of a pickup. It is a 1999 rust bucket and I only use it for getting lumber and making deliveries. I have a mini van for my day job and my wife has an SUV, but neither are big enough for 4×8 plywood.

-- "When the going gets tough, switch to power tools." - Red Green

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#13 posted 07-10-2011 06:47 PM

GMC Acadia witch I have will take a 4×8 sheet and 8’ long 2×4.
Plus it will seat 8 people if you need it and the ride is wonderful it rides just like a Cadillac, the price here in Canada is only a little over $50,000.
I also get over 30 miles per gallon.
Also all set up to haul a large travel trailer or any trailer.

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#14 posted 07-10-2011 07:12 PM

Another XTerra here, a 2001. I can fit a full sheet of plywood in, as long as it’s slanted up at an angle. I can fit 8’ lumber in, as long as I don’t need to close the tailgate. (I can close the tailgate if the wood runs straight up the middle and sits on the console.)

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#15 posted 07-10-2011 07:46 PM

Why add a gas hog that doubles as a family car?

I did not change my comfortable car for a truck or SUV just so I could haul lumber and tools “occasionally”.

I got myself a small trailer:

Model #:29SA
• 60” x 10’ or 14’ Single Axle • Approximate Carrying Capacity ranges from 2,000# – 2,200# depending on length • 2” A-Frame Coupler • 15” Tires
Cost me just over $700 60” x 10ft cargo area gives you ability to transport sheet goods and 10ft long studs. Also has a nice ramp and is very easy to pull.

OH …..... and the license tags cost $6.75 per year.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#16 posted 07-10-2011 07:46 PM

If you’re trying the roof rack thing..look at the load rating.. I’ve seen more than one that’s factory installed but has a warning of 100 pounds ONLY !
Sheesh..a sack of spuds and it’s overloaded ?

(oops, forgot the comp board boys say y’all can’t lift one of those without a forklift anymore..
50 lbs max.. ;-{

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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#17 posted 07-10-2011 07:54 PM

Roger… that’s why they’ll never let you be a real Texan. :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#18 posted 07-10-2011 08:00 PM

Charlie, there’s no harm is spreading a little common sense and very big trailers are available too. :-))

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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HorizontalMike

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#19 posted 07-10-2011 08:51 PM

But, but, but Charlie!... Roger’s trailer says BIG TEX rat’chere on the front! ;-)

Truth be told, even with a truck a trailer comes in handy. So many of my neighbors have trailers that it seems much easier to borrow one when needed than to buy one and end up storing/parking it where it will always be in the way.

You can see my racks on top of the truck for hauling a couple of sheets of plywood (my old hang-gliding racks). More than that and I would have to put it in the bed of the truck. FYI, I have found that the plywood will warp on the trip home if not laid flat and that means higher than my wheel wells. Not too much of a problem if I load up on 8/4 hardwood at the same time to fill in between the wells.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#20 posted 07-10-2011 10:31 PM

Everything, including the kitchen sink fits into my VW California, but the bikes go on the back.

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#21 posted 07-10-2011 11:01 PM

ONLY “People” go in my SUV ,yukon XLT, re-thinking the grand kids though (leather and spilled milk not good)
All other wood products are in my cheap Dodge RAM, or in my 16ft cargo trailer.

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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#22 posted 07-11-2011 12:58 AM

Mike, you are quite right, a trailer solves a lot of problems.
When you go shopping for lumber/plywood and arrive back to the shop you don’t have to unload it, just put the jack down, tarp it if needed and take off the lumber as needed – it’s a great lumber/panel rack. Also unhitching the trailer gives you back your “limo” instantly for hauling bodies.
People with hauling capability trucks/SUVs are targets for “friends” to loan for moving and shopping quests – driver included? It’s much easier to loan them a $700 trailer and let them mess up their own transmissions because they don’t understand that to tow they need to turn off the O/D on automatics.
With the ramp on a trailer you also have a great drive up experience for mowers and such – it must take the wind out of you trying to lift up a John Deere lawn tractor into a pickup bed – Phew!, then get if off !!!!!.
Going to a WW selling event? Just configure the trailer as a sales booth.
My V8 gets 25mpg normally and 23mpg pulling my trailer.
It’s a no brainer.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#23 posted 07-11-2011 02:00 AM

Gman thats one nice looking Arcadia and it sounds like it holds alot. Roger i agree with you a trailer is the way to go but I just don’t have the storage. Mike I just threw in the boss to be funny. We travel all over the country so a truck not my first choice. When I was in Fort Worth recently seemed like every other vehicle was a truck.

-- Billp

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#24 posted 07-11-2011 04:42 AM

I have a ‘99 Subaru Outback and I made a wooden frame to support a sheet of plywood at the widest spot of the hatchback opening and I have hauled 4 sheets of 1/2” plywood home in there many times. The other day I got in some 10’ pieces of conduit and closed the hatch. If I tried that in my Saturn LW200 wagon, they would be sticking out the front window to close the hatch. I love my Subaru. It is the only car we have that will pull the boat,too.

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#25 posted 07-12-2011 04:32 AM

I’m basically a hobbyist & have neither a PU ,van, or SUV. I merely draw up a cutting diagram which my supplier will follow with his panel saw at no charge. I have a Nissan Maxima sedan which the rear seats fold down & my cutting plan never has a piece 8 ft. long & wider than 2 ft. I haul everything with the trunk lid closed. I have hauled 4 plywood sheets cut to my plans at a time. The odd time I have needed pre-dimensioned hardwood planks & can carry up to 9 ft. long & close the trunk lid. Anything longer will stick out of the trunk with the lid held down with a bungee cord. I slip a piese of foam pipe insulation onto the bottom edge the the trunk lid when hauling such material. This has worked fine for me for 11 years.

Lee

-- Lee

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#26 posted 07-13-2011 12:30 AM

As has been mentioned before, a Suburban can fit a 4×8 in it with the rear hatch closed, no problem. It can also fit 10’ lumber if you put the front passenger seat down, too. Longer if you leave part of the hatch open. I’m not sure if a Suburban counts as an SUV, though.

Something to consider – before I got my Suburban I really wanted a truck instead. I’ve found that the Suburban has almost all of the “moving things” advantages of a truck, plus the added advantage that it can carry lots of passengers comfortably. Plenty of power for towing, etc. (though not as much as some of the really big trucks, obviously), and what amounts to one of the largest “beds” available. The seats come out really easily, and I keep a big rubber mat (the kind you can put down on garage floors) in the back which I roll out when I want to dirty it up. I’ve yet to come across something that I couldn’t move (including furniture, trees, lumber, etc.). Really there is only a small percentage of things that I can’t carry that I could carry if I had a truck.

If something comes along that I really do need a truck for, I can always rent one from the nearest Home Depot/Lowes/Menards/UHaul. Lot’s of places it’s only about $15-20 per hour for a pickup, and the process is super simple.

-- Brian

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#27 posted 07-13-2011 12:33 AM

I have a Dodge mini van, fold down the seats and a 4×8 sheet will fit inside. I traded my Lincoln Town Car(less than 20k) and my s-10 pick-up(was never really that satisfied with it) for the van and no way would I trade back. I have a roof rack if I need it for anything over 8’.

-- Life is good.

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#28 posted 07-13-2011 01:07 AM

I have a 2000 suburban, when I take the back seat out and lay down my middle row captain seats, it will lay plywood flat. I haven’t found much that it won’t hold.

-- It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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#29 posted 07-13-2011 01:46 AM

I should have added I also have a 5×10 trailer for anything that won’t fit inside. If it won’t fit the trailer I don’t want to mess with it anyway :-)

-- Life is good.

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#30 posted 07-13-2011 05:08 PM

My SUV is an ‘81 Blazer. I probably could fit wood in it, but it would be a hassle. For less than three hundred Harbour Freight sells a trailer kit. You put it together and the floor is supposed to be a 4×8 sheet of plywood that you screw to it. When I bought it, my reasoning was that if it is meant to have a 4×8 sheet for the floor, then that also means I can haul 4×8 sheets of wood.
It’s not a heavy duty trailer by no means, but it hauls sheet goods and my 10 foot boat when I fish the small ponds. That’s all I needed it for.
The only drawback to the trailer is the cheap tires on it. They are 13” tires though and easily replaced with something that you can go over 55MPH on without worrying about a blowout.
.................................
Ok.
It has been a couple of years since I bought mine. So I decided to stop and go to their website to make sure it was still available. The closest I found to what I have is this.
4×8. Can still haul sheet goods.
Rated for 1720 pounds.
12” tires, but they are five lug. You can get better tires already mounted on rims at Wal-Mart even.

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#31 posted 07-13-2011 05:45 PM

One of my biggest mistakes is trading in my 3/4 ton diesel GMC truck for an FJ Cruiser just so I could save $100/month on the payments. I could buy a small trailer, but wouldn’t have somewhere convenient to store it. I’ve used the FJ to haul split plywood sheets, but not full sheets. I could use the racks on top, but that’d be far too much work. Luckily, my neighbor lets me borrow his truck if I need it…which I’m thankful to have access to…in exchange for a sixer of Shiner Bock. ;)

There’s nothing like the convenience of having a truck…and will get another the next chance I get.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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#32 posted 07-13-2011 06:02 PM

My biggest issue with having a SUV is you end up using the cargo space like a truck bed and mess up the carpet and plastic. I was so happy the day I traded my Explorer in for and Avalanche.

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#33 posted 07-13-2011 06:29 PM

Ah lads, seriously. 50 grand gone on an SUV!! Were the mad-house gates left open?

-- A family man has photos in his wallet where his money used to be.

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#34 posted 07-13-2011 06:41 PM

Murch: My sentiments exactly. Suburbans are great, as Brian attests, but I’d have to be a lot wealthier than I am to justify that kind of money

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#35 posted 07-13-2011 07:13 PM

You don’t have to buy them new. I piad 18.5K for my 2007 avalanche which is just a suburban with a bed. It is in mint condition. It had 80K on it but I don’t expect any problems from a truck that is only 3-4 years old. I get about 21MPG on the highway with the cruse control set at 65 and 16.5 combined (I live in a city). Also it had the 100K warantie on it and it started burning oil, GM put in new rings, pistons, lifters, valve seals and main rear/front seals for free. You can get a good deal if you are not hooked on buying new.

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#36 posted 07-13-2011 08:58 PM

Sorry Murch but $50,000 is nothing too me, I buy what I like, life is short and you might as well use it if not your kids are going to fight over it and then spend it.
My son in law has a trailer that I can borrow anytime he is only 3 miles from me.
Every 50000 miles I trade for a new one I like the new car smell LOL LOL

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#37 posted 07-13-2011 10:03 PM

Until I downsized to a Yukon a couple of months ago, I’d had a Suburban and two Yukon XLs over the last 20 years. 8 ft lumber, no problem. 4×8 ft plywood, no problem. 10 ft molding between the front seats on the console. Last year when we were moving I put 33 of the file/book size boxes in it. Obviously not full of books/papers, there is a limit on weight! I think capacity depends on what you call an SUV.

-- Insert clever tag line here

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#38 posted 07-14-2011 08:32 AM

Good for you GMman. Hope you never have to lift the hood on it but I’m with Charlie here. Just
don’t see the point.

Agallant – best of luck with that. You sound happy with your purchase and that counts
for a lot these days but to me buying an SUV (not sure what an Avalanche is) and living in a city
is like buying a fishing boat and living in the desert.
Just my opinion. I’m sure you get good use out of it.

-- A family man has photos in his wallet where his money used to be.

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#39 posted 07-14-2011 09:05 AM

Ok, I’ll throw out this bait for a laugh and see who bites. Some one was always going to, once this
thread started.

Big-ass SUV gas-hogs are for “men” with little dicks who need something big in their lives to banish
the torture of being inadequate ( is that how you spell inadequate? Hell, I don’t even know what
inadequate means!!) so that they feel equal to those of us who are happy owners of big dicks and are
secure in the knowledge that no matter how hard we tried to wear them down, over the years, they are
still, and will always be, big. And we’ll never have to buy an SUV to feel better about ourselves.

All replies considered,
Murch.
p.s. flag it if you want to, I don’t mind. Not sure if its site-appropriate or not.

-- A family man has photos in his wallet where his money used to be.

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#40 posted 07-14-2011 01:11 PM

murch, you must spend a lot of time comparing wee willies since you are so emotionally/mentally tied in knots about your own inadequacy. Now THAT is weird… Just sayin’

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#41 posted 07-14-2011 01:52 PM

Murch I see now that you’re an ass.
Let me tell you something this is 2011 and a large SUV like mine gets on a trip close to 35 miles to a gallon, it is direct fuel injection and it rides like a Cadillac so before opening you trap you should learn a bit.
An Avalanche is a large pickup truck more fancy than a regular one and is hard on gas but very useful “I had one”.
It maybe time for you to come out of the wood.

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#42 posted 07-14-2011 02:08 PM

Thanks for the replies lads. Just a bit of fun. Hope your blood pressure didn’t go up too much.
Some days you’re just in the mood to poke the hornets nest.

-- A family man has photos in his wallet where his money used to be.

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#43 posted 07-14-2011 02:21 PM

Let’s not let this personal choice of lumber transportation get out of hand.
Whatever you use to transport your projects and lumber is purely what suits each individual’s needs, be it comfort, gas mileage, capacity, parking or costs, it is a decision that suit your set of circumstances.

My decision of lumber transportation was a simple criteria of whatever suited me best, each LJ may have different opinions which suit their circumstances.
I needed to retain my passenger car as a family transport vehicle at all times. I did not want or need a pickup truck, they are usually driven empty anyway, litter spews out of the bed along the road, and they are dangerous in wet and frozen conditions because an empty pickup truck loses traction with no weight over the back axle.
An SUV, a cross between a car and a closed in pickup retaining the ride height of a truck may have been an answer for me, but fiddling around moving seats and then finding some items would not fit in the “luggage” space, it would mean I’d have to compromise.
The purchase of a small sheet goods trailer seemed to be the perfect answer for me. Use it only when you need it. Simple to hitch/unhitch, no reconfiguration of the passenger vehicle required. It requires only a small parking area and can also be used as w wood storage place, thus you don’t need to unload a truck/SUV if you don’t need to.
This systems suits me best, naturally it may not be for everyone.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#44 posted 07-14-2011 02:55 PM

@murch I love downtown Raleigh,NC which is not like when I lived in D.C. but there are still allot of stop lights and what not that lower the MPG when I am running around. With that said I have a 100 year old house that I am always putting lumber in the back of my truck for and I have a 21foot boat that I pull with the truck. If I don’t have to drive my truck I will take my wife’s BMW, that gets about 30mpg.

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#45 posted 07-14-2011 03:05 PM

Roger,
My little ego, er ugh, Toyota pickup truck normally has a shell on allowing it to double as a semi-SUV and as an open bed truck on an as-needed basis. No littering the highway here.

I sure understand what you are saying, and personally hate being on the bike behind an open bed truck when this happens, and it happens a lot.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#46 posted 07-14-2011 03:06 PM

Hey Roger todays SUVs are very simple you just push a button and all or part of the seats will go down flat, if used as a car the back seats adjust for how far back or close you want to be they also recline, you have air and heat both overhead and on the floor in the back, backup camera, phone and a trailer hitch.
It’s a mater of choice that is why we are all different.

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#47 posted 07-14-2011 03:15 PM

I have a ford explorer – I have put up to 200 bdft into the back or 8 cut sheets of 3/4” ply – I have them rough cut at the place I buy it or I have it delivered. The thing have a V6 and didn’t balk at the load. I get 22mpg highway, 16mpg city, hauling wood – 14.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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#48 posted 07-14-2011 03:17 PM

agallant, I wouldn’t spend too much time defending yourself to murch. After all, this is a guy who worries about his masculinity, yet he comes from and lives in a country where the guys wear skirts at every opportunity/holiday.

I have nothing against Irish women (born females), I have spent the last +25yr living with one. But dudes in skirts? Do they also ride Cushman 50 Series Step Through Scooters because they don’t have to straddle?

AND JUST HOW WOULD YOU CARRY LUMBER ON THESE THINGS?

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#49 posted 07-14-2011 04:20 PM

Chevy 2500HD fits everything. Lexus LX470 fits nothing. I’d like a Suburban with the entire rear interior LineX’d. ;)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#50 posted 07-14-2011 04:29 PM

hell, I can’t put a 4×8 sheet of plywood flat in my “truck” anymore.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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