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Longrifle

by mski
posted 03-24-2011 05:42 AM


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#1 posted 03-24-2011 07:39 AM

You can’t go too far astray if you have Track’s catalog ;-) Build a Jaeger or a Le high Valley flinter. You can’t get any more early American than those!!

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#2 posted 03-24-2011 02:40 PM

In the early 80’s, I built a double barrel shotgun, a .45 cal Kentucky rifle, and a couple of .45 cal pistols from CVA (Connecticut Valley Arms) kits. They all use percussion caps, but I think that you could also get flintlocks.

They were all fun to build and shoot, and I remember wondering how anyone ever managed to fight a war with firing rates of three rounds per minute.

I think that CVA is still around.

-- Adversity doesn't build character...................it reveals it.

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#3 posted 03-24-2011 03:02 PM

The Continental Army’s training manual said no soldier shall be excused from drill until he can load an fire his musket 15 times in 3 minutes and 45 seconds. That is a far greater demand than 3 times in a minute.;-)) My g…..g-gramdpa, Stephen Longwell was wounded in the left elbow on Long Island when Washington ordered the retreat on Aug 28, 1776. His elbow became too stiff to shoot a musket, so he spent the rest of the War in the Artillery Corps.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#4 posted 03-24-2011 03:05 PM

Thanks, The Tracks I got , looks like they got everything. The book I have Recreating the American Longrifle is very detailed building from scratch. I’ll Post a Project if I tackle this
Sawkerf, I seem to remember more like 3 min per round, and I was young then
Thanks

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#5 posted 03-24-2011 03:12 PM

I guess I’d be peeling potatoes, Didn’t 600,000 die in the civil war, makes me wonder how.
, of course how did they build houses and buildingd wih hand tools and horses.

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#6 posted 03-24-2011 03:17 PM

They worked harder and built smaller. The barn my dad and gpa built by hand in the early 50’s seems to be dwarfed by a house in the field that was built after the place was subdivided. The barn was 56×54 and 26 feet high. Those were big buildings when I was a kid ;-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#7 posted 03-24-2011 03:28 PM

Those were the days, I can’t get my kid to put the ipod down long enough to do the dishes.
But who am I to talk I love my power tools.

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#8 posted 03-24-2011 03:29 PM

I have watched a barn raising in Amish country in Ohio. You get fifty hard working people that are all craftspeople and you can have a funtional barn that is quite large in one day – and it will last a couple hundred years.

Good luck on the rifle, sounds like fun to build.

-- David in Palm Bay, FL

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#9 posted 03-24-2011 03:32 PM

I grew up in PA Amish country they aren’t afraid of work.
This is what I have in mind.
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=13&subId=77&styleId=268&partNum=1770-LANCASTER-RIFLE-FLINT-PARTS-LIST-44-SWAMPED

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#10 posted 03-24-2011 06:46 PM

If you want a hunting rifle ,a swamped barel will lighten it quite a bit. For match shooting or even long plinking sessions, the heat waves will make sighitng very difficult. A straight taper is best for that.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#11 posted 03-24-2011 06:53 PM

Thanks, so the swamped barrel just lightens the rifle?

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#12 posted 03-24-2011 07:08 PM

Hey, gang…Ever wonder what would happen if you forgot to remove your laser-sighting barrel insert? Yee-haw…And I thought this only happened to Elmer Fudd!!!Photobucket
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-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#13 posted 03-24-2011 07:15 PM

Thats why we need gun laws, too many people just arn’t to be trusted with arms.

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#14 posted 03-24-2011 07:18 PM

The arms… that held the gun, mski? Oh, wait, let’s not go there…..

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#15 posted 03-24-2011 07:39 PM

mski, We have plenty. The Philadelphia Project during the Clinton Admin proved they work, but enforcement cost too much and the politicians need the issue to stir up the uninformed populace.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#16 posted 03-24-2011 07:42 PM

Yea I know I just try to be responseable with mine, Maybe we all should have Muskets

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#17 posted 03-24-2011 07:45 PM

Poopiekat – if no one was physically hurt – that is FUNNY!

-- Greg D.

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#18 posted 03-24-2011 08:07 PM

And expensive

-- David in Palm Bay, FL

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#19 posted 03-24-2011 08:31 PM

GregD: Elmer Fudd always survived… and lived to go wabbit hunting another day!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#20 posted 03-24-2011 08:58 PM

The swamped barrel lightens the rifle and some think (including me) it is more aesthetically pleasing to the eye.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#21 posted 03-24-2011 09:21 PM

Thanks Topmax I think so too, I’ll stick with it, heard it’s a little harder to inlet.

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#22 posted 03-25-2011 03:55 AM

I have never done one, but I have friends who have. They say infinitely harder!! ;-)) Good luck.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#23 posted 03-25-2011 04:22 AM

” infinitely harder!! ”
HMMM, maybe lifting weights with my left arm would be easier ?
But then again an expensive project that will last forever will keep me entertained longer !
you know $ per hour of entertainment . or shall I say mental therapy.
thanks for your input.

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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