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by DanAZ
posted 03-01-2021 11:16 PM


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MrUnix

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#1 posted 03-01-2021 11:21 PM

That is a solid saw, and it has one of those magic motors that actually gain horsepower when switching from 120 to 240v! Biesemeyer fence and mobile base is a big plus as well. $475 is not too bad of a price given it appears to be in excellent and well cared for condition.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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SMP

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#2 posted 03-01-2021 11:24 PM

Its really similar to the saw I have, but mine is a few years older and has the crappy stock fence and 110 motor. I will say this, if you got a saw with a crappy fence it costs around $400 for a decent fence.

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syenefarmer

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#3 posted 03-02-2021 12:35 AM

Without the Biesemeyer fence that’s a $200-$250 saw. I’m not sure if the fence/rail system is really worth the extra $225-$275. With your local market on used table saws being what you say it is though it might be justifiable to pay his asking price.

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#4 posted 03-02-2021 12:46 AM

I think $475 is still on the high side for a contractor saw but the fence does make it more desirable.
If you can try to hook it to the 240v power. The 1.5. hp is marginal if you plan to do any ripping of hardwoods.
If it fits your needs go for it.

-- Les B, Oregon

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DanAZ

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#5 posted 03-02-2021 01:30 AM

Thanks for all the feedback. It sounds like it’s priced either about right or maybe slightly on the high side.

As far as my needs, this would be my first “real” table saw so I’m not too sure what I expect out of the saw. Given that my local market is pretty dry for good used saws, I’m mostly comparing it with what I can get new. Needless to say I couldn’t get anything close for $475 new.

There is a Grizzly Hybrid saw locally with a good fence for $975 and a couple of old Delta Unisaws for $1,200 – $2,500. The Grizzly hybrid is much newer and likely a better saw but for $500 more, which I don’t really want to spend right now.

It doesn’t sound like it’s really overpriced. I appreciate all the feedback. Keep them coming if you like.

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DanAZ

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#6 posted 03-02-2021 01:36 AM

By the way, here is the Grizzly model G0715pq with a TS LS fence and mobile base for $975. Looks like a great saw for twice the price.

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RClark

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#7 posted 03-02-2021 01:50 AM

I had an old Delta 34-444 for 11 years as my first table saw. Was a good choice for me at the time. I paid $300 for it in 2001.

I don’t think it’s a “smokin’ deal”, but it’s certainly not an outrageous price, either. That Biesemeyer fence and quality mobile base are the things that would make me consider it.

-- Ray

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SMP

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#8 posted 03-02-2021 02:07 AM

Well the good news is that if its a good deal , and as you say your market is dry, then its already gone by now and you won’t have to decide. Or someone went over with cash and made him an offer.

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DanAZ

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#9 posted 03-02-2021 02:49 AM

That’s how I feel Ray. Not a smoking’ deal but not bad. The seller and I have been talking over the phone. He still has it. He actually has it listed for much more, which is why it’s not getting much interest but he knows he’s got it priced pretty high and says he’ll take $475.

I’ll sleep on it and see how I feel in the morning. At the moment, I feel pretty close to deciding to take it.

Thanks again to all who have commented.

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Wood_Scraps

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#10 posted 03-02-2021 03:29 AM

With that fence, $475 seems fair. Not a , “shut up and take my money” level deal. But, still a price that you could walk away feeling satisfied.

As far as new saws, the Delta 36-725T2 is maybe the only comparable one in that rough price range.

I too have been browsing CL and Marketplace. So I completely understand how sparse the deals are. Like you, almost everything I see is bench top and job site saws. With nearly all being overpriced. Nicer contractor saws and cabinet saws have been few and far between. And the few that pop up are even more outrageous.

Just this evening, I ended up pulling the trigger on a Delta 36-725T2 from Lowe’s. Had a 10% coupon. They offered me another 10% for some slight damage to the box. And I can still return it if there are issues. Brought it down to $480.

If it were a choice between paying full price ($600), or buying the one you posted, it’d be a tough decision. But would likely still go with the 36-725T2 simply for the added security of a return policy and 5 year warranty.

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Kelly

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#11 posted 03-02-2021 05:30 AM

YEP

As others said or hinted at, a fence is a LARGE percent of what makes a good saw. I can tolerate slower cuts long before fighting settings.


Well the good news is that if its a good deal , and as you say your market is dry, then its already gone by now and you won’t have to decide. Or someone went over with cash and made him an offer.

- SMP


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#12 posted 03-02-2021 10:13 AM

Older saws have no riving knife. About half the reason I upgraded.

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#13 posted 03-02-2021 01:21 PM

Just a comment about Delta. With some of their older products replacement parts are no longer available. I ran into this with an older Delta miter saw. Might want to check this out for the saw you are contemplating buying.

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#14 posted 03-02-2021 02:07 PM



Just a comment about Delta. With some of their older products replacement parts are no longer available. I ran into this with an older Delta miter saw. Might want to check this out for the saw you are contemplating buying.

- JIMMIEM

I’m in general agreement with you regarding the sad state of affairs with today’s Delta brand. Four major components of my shop are Delta machines. If I had to replace any of those capabilities today, new Delta equipment would not even be a consideration in the search for the replacement.

I do, however, like the “old iron” Delta. My newest Delta equipment is nearly 20 years old. Two of the pieces are 60 years or older.

There are a couple of factors, in my opinion, that would make me consider this saw (if I was looking for one).

- It’s a USA-made saw. That tells me that it was still being manufactured to at least some decent quality specification before Delta moved the last of their manufacturing capability offshore to cheapest bid.

- Contractor saws really aren’t that complex. As long as they haven’t been abused, a quality machine is fairly durable. According to the OP, this one has seen an easy life with one owner, so things like castings should be in pretty good shape. Due diligence is key.

- That fence. One of the big motivations for me moving on from my old Delta contractor saw was the sorry Jet lock fence. Fast, repeatable, accurate settings are key to enjoyment of the saw, in my opinion. With an accurate fence, nice alignment of the blade to the table and fence, almost anything is possible with this saw.

-- Ray

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#15 posted 03-02-2021 02:16 PM

I’m a bit late getting to this post. I have had a somewhat newer model of that saw for over 10 years and I can’t think of anything negative to say except that it doesn’t have a riving knife. It does have a below the table mount for a splitter. I have that rigged so that the splitter can be inserted and removed as needed without removing the ZCI. I’m glad the saw doesn’t have an open grill top like some. I love the solid CI. The whole saw is solid and heavy and it passes the nickel test with flying colors. And, of course, there is the Biesemeyer fence. What can I say besides “perfect”. However, keep in mind that this is the only table saw I have ever owned. So, I can’t compare it to anything else. I don’t know current prices very well, but my gut tells me that $475 is a bit high, but from the picture, it looks to be in good condition. So…?

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Bill White

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#16 posted 03-02-2021 03:57 PM

Don’t let anyone talk you out of a contractor saw. Mine has served me well for over ten years,
and has done all I’ve thrown at it.
The cast tops, great fence, mobile base, etc. is a plus.
Does it come with extra blades?
Get a good miter gauge (Incra 200 SE here).
Might want to get a new belt too.

-- [email protected]

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Wood_Scraps

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#17 posted 03-02-2021 04:42 PM



Don t let anyone talk you out of a contractor saw. Mine has served me well for over ten years,
and has done all I ve thrown at it.
The cast tops, great fence, mobile base, etc. is a plus.
Does it come with extra blades?
Get a good miter gauge (Incra 200 SE here).
Might want to get a new belt too.

- Bill White

I’ll second this sentiment. Plenty of guys are doing very nice work with far less table saw.

The table saw I’m be replacing with the 36-725T2 I just purchased is an old Ryobi BTS10 bench top/job site saw. I improved the table and fence. But, it’s nothing special on the inside. Still has done what I’ve asked of it. Basic cuts to resawing; just not as fast/efficiently as a 3hp cabinet saw.

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#18 posted 03-02-2021 05:21 PM

You asked for advice, so…

If you can afford to wait and save, then wait and save. That is a really nice contractor saw, and if you keep it for 7 to 10 years, that $475 won’t be a big deal. If you can put together that additional $500 sometime, you will most likely buy a saw you will never out grow. I had an 80’s era Craftman contractor saw and it was a constant battle to keep the fence aligned and of course, I had to be patient with some of my cuts. I was looking to upgrade some time ago and bought a Shop Fox 3HP cabinet saw for $800.00 off of Craigslist. I thought it was a little high at the time, but I have never regretting buying it, and I will never out grow it. It’s been over 15 years and it is the center piece of my shop. As a garage shop hobbiest, I will never need to replace it until it dies.

If you NEED a saw now, buy it and get cooking! We don’t know your market, or your need, other than what you shared. Buy a thin kerf blade and a new belt and I’ll be that thing will work really well for you into the future. It may be the saw you don’t outgrow.

Good Luck.

-- When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you CAN'T do

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DanAZ

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#19 posted 03-02-2021 05:24 PM

Well, I’ve been thinking about this pretty much non-stop and I am now beginning to wonder if it’s the right choice. For the reason tvrgeek brought up – no riving knife. This is probably the main reason to look for a saw that is newer and now I’m wondering if I should hold off. I haven’t been able to find anything definitive about adding a riving knife to an older saw and certainly not anything about this saw specifically.

Has anyone here done it?

I’m sure everyone has an riving knife opinion. I’ll bet thousands of people still use saws without them and have for decades. It just seems like such a simple solution to a really dangerous threat. Man, some of those stories online about kickback are terrifying!

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#20 posted 03-02-2021 05:40 PM

For the reason tvrgeek brought up – no riving knife. This is probably the main reason to look for a saw that is newer and now I’m wondering if I should hold off. I haven’t been able to find anything definitive about adding a riving knife to an older saw and certainly not anything about this saw specifically.

That saw left the factory with a splitter, and a riving knife is just a splitter; the real difference is while both tilt with the blade, the riving knife also raises and lowers with the blade. Both serve the exact same purpose – a riving knife is just a bit more convenient as you do not need to remove it for non-through cuts. Certainly would not be a deal breaker for me.

There are also several aftermarket alternatives to the factory splitter, including the shark guard/ARK (adjustable riving knife). It’s not a true riving knife, as you have to manually adjust the height – but is similar in that you can leave it on for non-through cuts.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: As has been hinted at – the fence and mobile base alone are worth more than half the asking price.

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#21 posted 03-02-2021 05:57 PM

And, my interest is renewed. I looked at some aftermarket options such as the mj splitter and the shark and they look pretty good. Thanks, Brad.

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#22 posted 03-02-2021 06:18 PM

The riving knife is a good safety item but so is the blade stopping ability of a SawStop if you can afford it. There are ways to add a splitter/riving knife to the saw if you find you really need it. Some are half the price you give for the saw (Shark ARK). Of first importance is to be aware of safe operations on the table saw regardless. I know more people who cut off fingers on the saw than suffered injury from a kick backs.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#23 posted 03-02-2021 06:41 PM

I have an older contractor grade saw and it’s worked well for me. I’ve found that a good blade helps a lot and I replaced the original belt with a vbelt and that’s really been nice. It has the original fence on it and it SUCKS. Having a nice fence on the one you’re considering is a nice idea.

I do agree that you should have some form of splitter or riving knife on the saw if you’re going to use it. You can ask the original owner what happened to it. It’s easy enough to make a new kerf plate and have a splitter on it.

You’re getting a contractor grade saw with a nice fence. Automatically going to be better than the generic table top saws. If you’re not able to find anything else after looking for a long time then you know what your local prices are.

-- The only thing not measured in my shop is time

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#24 posted 03-02-2021 09:04 PM

ive had that saw with stock fence for 15 years. bought it on clearance for $400.
didnt even put the riving knife on.
its been a workhorse, has stayed accurate, and the only problem has been the power switch.

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#25 posted 03-02-2021 09:24 PM

Hadn’t thought to mention it until it was brought up, but an after market splitter is a VERY good plan. Most stock ones were a pain to remove and install. For that reason, I bought a Merlin Splitter for my cabinet saw. It was a game changer and worth every penny.

A riving knife would be nicer, but I’m not going to toss my beast for the latest, greatest.

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#26 posted 03-02-2021 09:59 PM

Definitely want a splitter or riving knife. The MJ splitter is a great, low cost, option. I put one of the Thin Kerf Steel Pros on my old Ryobi saw. New saw I just purchased has a riving knife. So, likely won’t need the MJ splitter as much any more. If at all.

But, for the Ryobi saw, it worked wonderfully and was a nice added peace of mind. The biggest downside is that, depending on the depth of cut, the splitter tab(s) might be a little farther from the blade than what’s ideal. I “fixed” this by putting together multiple zero clearance inserts. One for shallower cuts and one for cuts at full blade height. This way, I could position the MJ splitters close to the blade for almost all cuts.

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#27 posted 03-03-2021 05:14 PM

Thanks, everyone for all the comments.

Alas, as some of you predicted, someone went and snatched it out from under me. At any rate, this whole discussion has taught me a lot and has made me much more aware of what to look.

I appreciate all your help.

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#28 posted 03-04-2021 01:14 AM

Bummer. But, not like you missed out on the deal of the century. Keep on looking. And if that fails, just be like me and buy a new one, lol.

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#29 posted 03-04-2021 03:24 AM



Thanks, everyone for all the comments.

Alas, as some of you predicted, someone went and snatched it out from under me. At any rate, this whole discussion has taught me a lot and has made me much more aware of what to look.

I appreciate all your help.

- DanAZ

The only person who has to be satisfied with your purchase is you. We can opine in may different ways, but the bottom line is that it’s your money, and if you think it’s worth the cost, then it’s your decision.

When it comes to price on anything, all the seller has to do is find one person who is willing to pay that price for that piece of equipment, and then the piece becomes “valued” at that price.

This reminds of my first saw buy…and so I’ll tell the story. If you don’t wanna hear it, tough tacos. I’m gonna tell it anyway. :)

When I bought my first contractor saw in 2001, I had been looking for two years. This was in the days before Craigslist and other online forums (fora?). We were a single income family, and my woodshop was very far over in the discretionary expense column.

I scoured the classified ads of the local paper every day, and twice on Sundays. On that early Saturday morning, I jumped out of bed and grabbed the paper. There it was…the ad. Delta contractor saw, $300. I called. The guy said that somebody else was on the way to look at it…BUT…whoever got there first with $300 could buy it. I told darling wife that I was headed out to buy a saw, and she could come along if she wanted, but we were heading out immediately, with a stop at the ATM to grab $300 on the way. She came along (darling wife is real trooper, she has supported me every step along the way.)

I raced over there in my little pickup truck, darling wife in the passenger seat, only stopping to get the $300 at the ATM. He had a Delta 34-444 contractor saw right there in his single car garage. Told me here it is, he’d throw in the dado stack with it. I said yes, we loaded it, and five minutes later, I was pulling out of his driveway with the saw in the bed of the truck. I wanted to be out of there when the other guy showed up only to find out he’d just wasted his time driving over there.

As I was driving away with the saw, another truck passed me on same street, I watched in my rear-view mirror as that guy pulled into the driveway of the house I had just left. I thought two things:

- Dude, it stinks to be you.

- Got out of there just in time. There are only two guys on this battlefield. The quick, and those who don’t have a table saw.

Said all that to say this: Next time, trust your gut instinct. You’ll get a saw. And you’ll start turning out some great stuff.

-- Ray

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#30 posted 03-04-2021 05:33 AM



Thanks for all the feedback. It sounds like it’s priced either about right or maybe slightly on the high side.

As far as my needs, this would be my first “real” table saw so I’m not too sure what I expect out of the saw. Given that my local market is pretty dry for good used saws, I’m mostly comparing it with what I can get new. Needless to say I couldn’t get anything close for $475 new.

There is a Grizzly Hybrid saw locally with a good fence for $975 and a couple of old Delta Unisaws for $1,200 – $2,500. The Grizzly hybrid is much newer and likely a better saw but for $500 more, which I don’t really want to spend right now.

It doesn’t sound like it’s really overpriced. I appreciate all the feedback. Keep them coming if you like.

- DanAZ

the contractor saw Is made in the USA. Not much else has to be said.

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#31 posted 03-04-2021 01:56 PM

Good story, Ray and a valuable lesson learned! Should have followed my gut.

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#32 posted 03-04-2021 05:18 PM

If you haven’t read them, you should!

The Numbered OWWM Rules

Particularly #5

Know what you want and how much you are willing to spend (and have the cash in hand ready to go)... then when a good deal shows up, you can pounce. They don’t last long… sometimes just hours or less.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#33 posted 03-04-2021 06:38 PM



If you haven t read them, you should!

The Numbered OWWM Rules

Particularly #5

Know what you want and how much you are willing to spend (and have the cash in hand ready to go)... then when a good deal shows up, you can pounce. They don t last long… sometimes just hours or less.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix


+1
That was 4 days ago! Could be a moot point by now.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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