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Paste wax alternative

by Mtowens
posted 09-17-2020 10:37 AM


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 09-17-2020 12:34 PM

Are you sure it’s the wax that rubbed off on his coat? It dries pretty hard, a lot of guys use on table saw tops and it doesn’t rub off on the wood.

PS, really like the work you did, quite nice!

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#2 posted 09-17-2020 12:52 PM



Are you sure it s the wax that rubbed off on his coat? It dries pretty hard, a lot of guys use on table saw tops and it doesn t rub off on the wood.

- Fred Hargis


Yeah, doesn’t make sense. What kind of paste wax is it? Sounds oily…

-- Bstrom

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#3 posted 09-17-2020 02:13 PM

ive been using liberon black bison paste wax,dries to a hard finish and very durable.not the cheapest wax but you get what you pay for.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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Mtowens

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#4 posted 09-17-2020 02:32 PM

I used Varethane finish paste wax natural.

I am under the impression that when his elbow rubbed across it, the polyester suit coat heated the wax a bit and rubbed off a bit.

Maybe I didn’t apply it right.

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#5 posted 09-17-2020 02:34 PM

I will definitely look in to the liberon black bison paste wax.

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Rich

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#6 posted 09-17-2020 02:38 PM


ive been using liberon black bison paste wax,dries to a hard finish and very durable.not the cheapest wax but you get what you pay for.

- pottz

+1. Renaissance is good too. It’s expensive, but a little goes a long way. Like pottz said, wax should dry hard and should never rub off on clothes (or a dust cloth for that matter). Also, in the Liberon class, Briwax is a good product.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#7 posted 09-17-2020 02:52 PM

Most of the commercial paste waxes I have used dry really hard. But you have to buff them out really well after applying to get all of the haze and residue off. Maybe some residue was left behind? I’ve never used the varathane but have used minwaxes and i would guess they are similar.

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Fred Hargis

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#8 posted 09-17-2020 03:18 PM



I used Varethane finish paste wax natural.

I am under the impression that when his elbow rubbed across it, the polyester suit coat heated the wax a bit and rubbed off a bit.

Maybe I didn’t apply it right.

- Mtowens

I suppose that’s possible (the “didn’t apply right”) if you didn’t let it haze and then buff it back. But most all the paste waxes will harden to the point where they wouldn’t rub off on fabric.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#9 posted 09-17-2020 04:01 PM


ive been using liberon black bison paste wax,dries to a hard finish and very durable.not the cheapest wax but you get what you pay for.

- pottz

+1. Renaissance is good too. It s expensive, but a little goes a long way. Like pottz said, wax should dry hard and should never rub off on clothes (or a dust cloth for that matter). Also, in the Liberon class, Briwax is a good product.

- Rich


+1 briwax,ive got some in the cabinet right now.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#10 posted 09-17-2020 09:36 PM

(Wry comment) Maybe you should find a pastor that doesn’t wear polyester … (snicker – sorry – couldn’t resist – thinking of popof/dollar/baker/osteen et al)

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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Mtowens

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#11 posted 09-17-2020 09:43 PM

Thank y’all so much for the input. I thought for I had done something extremely wrong or used the wrong product for this. I am new to this finishing technique and really love it.
I will definitely work on perfecting it and getting top quality wax

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Madmark2

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#12 posted 09-17-2020 10:37 PM

Take a collection for a new (non-polyester) suit for the pastor …

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#13 posted 09-18-2020 01:03 AM



Take a collection for a new (non-polyester) suit for the pastor …

- Madmark2

The pastor should be waxing lyrical, not waxing the pulpit with his sleeve.

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#14 posted 09-18-2020 02:45 AM

Thanks again for the help but that’s enough with the jokes.

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pottz

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#15 posted 09-18-2020 02:48 AM



Thanks again for the help but that’s enough with the jokes.

- Mtowens


i agree very distasteful.have some respect !

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#16 posted 09-18-2020 03:05 AM

Not saying it was this, but is it possible a little blob of wax was left hanging under the edge of the pulpit where the Preacher was leaning. As a glob, and not rubbed out it could retain enough moisture to transfer if touched.

I’m agreeing with others though if it was rubbed out, you wouldn’t get a transfer from it. Even the cheaper car waxes would dry hard enough for that not to happen.

++++’s for Renaissance, and or Liberon Black Bison as some very nice waxes. Either and some steel wool elevates your finishing game to another level. Add a final buffing using an old crumpled brown paper bag, and you have something.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#17 posted 09-18-2020 03:13 AM



Not saying it was this, but is it possible a little blob of wax was left hanging under the edge of the pulpit where the Preacher was leaning. As a glob, and not rubbed out it could retain enough moisture to transfer if touched.

I m agreeing with others though if it was rubbed out, you wouldn t get a transfer from it. Even the cheaper car waxes would dry hard enough for that not to happen.

++++ s for Renaissance, and or Liberon Black Bison as some very nice waxes. Either and some steel wool elevates your finishing game to another level. Add a final buffing using an old crumpled brown paper bag, and you have something.

- therealSteveN


good point,the op may not even have known that was case.as said even a cheap wax wouldn’t have done that.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#18 posted 09-18-2020 10:41 PM

I found out that not all paste waxes are the same, which I had always assumed. I recently purchased a Festool MFT and wanted to seal the top from stains, water, glue, sweat, etc. I grabbed my trusty yellow can of Johnson’s Paste wax and had just enough to do one side. I was worried because it was going on splotchy but after an hour it was absorbed evenly and all one tone. Everyone was out of Johnson’s Paste Wax but I found Minwax Paste Wax. Now for the other side… I used an amount about the size of an egg on side one, but on side two I used half a can of the Minwax because it was soaking in to fast. So I wonder if the Johnsons had more solids and sealed the surface and didn’t penetrate as deeply or if the Minwax had less solids and penetrated deeper. The Johnson’s side is slicker.

-- NorthWoodsMan

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Rich

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#19 posted 09-18-2020 11:20 PM


I found out that not all paste waxes are the same, which I had always assumed. I recently purchased a Festool MFT and wanted to seal the top from stains, water, glue, sweat, etc.

- northwoodsman

Osmo Polyx is great for that. I did my bench with it and glue peels off cleanly, I spilled some full-strength TransTint on it, and even after the few minutes it took me to get to it, there was no trace with a simple wipe.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#20 posted 09-20-2020 05:15 AM


I found out that not all paste waxes are the same, which I had always assumed. I recently purchased a Festool MFT and wanted to seal the top from stains, water, glue, sweat, etc.

- northwoodsman

Osmo Polyx is great for that. I did my bench with it and glue peels off cleanly, I spilled some full-strength TransTint on it, and even after the few minutes it took me to get to it, there was no trace with a simple wipe.

- Rich

Which one did you use? The clear or a color?

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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#21 posted 09-21-2020 03:28 AM


I found out that not all paste waxes are the same, which I had always assumed. I recently purchased a Festool MFT and wanted to seal the top from stains, water, glue, sweat, etc.

- northwoodsman

Osmo Polyx is great for that. I did my bench with it and glue peels off cleanly, I spilled some full-strength TransTint on it, and even after the few minutes it took me to get to it, there was no trace with a simple wipe.

- Rich

Which one did you use? The clear or a color?

- woodbutcherbynight


Not sure who you are asking the question but I used clear Minwax, i didn’t see an option for anything else.

-- NorthWoodsMan

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#22 posted 09-21-2020 03:59 AM


Not sure who you are asking the question but I used clear Minwax, i didn t see an option for anything else.

- northwoodsman

I also have had similar experience with Minwax. I only use it on shop jigs and such. Anything for the house I use lacquer or other higher grade finishes.

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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