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The Right Tool For The Job???

by Richard
posted 02-07-2011 11:46 AM


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TopamaxSurvivor

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#1 posted 02-07-2011 12:06 PM

I think it is called a beam saw. Before nail guns, lots of framers drove a 16d in 2 whacks. There was a general foreman whose dad was a carpenter before him. He said his dad told him they cut through a 2×4 in 4 strokes, I believe. Work wasn’t always so warm and fuzzy ;-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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BigTiny

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#2 posted 02-07-2011 12:38 PM

The spelling isn’t “walla”, it’s “voila” if I remember my high school french… :)

-- The nicer the nice, the higher the price!

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tnwood

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#3 posted 02-07-2011 03:34 PM

It is a beam saw and actually quite common in the timber frame industry and remodeling areas especially on old homes that had huge beams and timbers. I think they are 110v but I’m not sure.

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Brandon

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#4 posted 02-07-2011 04:11 PM

16 5/16” blade.

here it is on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Makita-5402NA-16-5-16-Inch-Circular/dp/B0000614UR/

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#5 posted 02-07-2011 04:15 PM

The landscapers we hired for a major project used a saw like this to cut railroad ties.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#6 posted 02-07-2011 05:12 PM

We rented one ( Makita 16 5/16) to cut the beams for a house we where remolding…

The bigger the hammer, the less swings it takes to drive em home…

-- Rick

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#7 posted 02-07-2011 05:43 PM

It’s A 16” beam saw. I have two of ‘em. Yep they’re 110v. Gotta keep the blade stright during the cut or it bogs, dricote helps to. I use them and my 12” slide miter saw to cut ruff sawn timbers when I have to build roof trusses.
If you carry a 28oz rig axe you only have to hit the nail once. Then again the nails are called “sinkers” for a reason. It’s the head design of the nail.

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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Paul_Steiner

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#8 posted 02-07-2011 08:21 PM

I have a 12” millwaukee, I did not know there were any larger than that. WOW.

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Richard

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#9 posted 02-07-2011 09:10 PM

Yep 16” , just watch a Timber Frame home going up and you will see them on the site. That has to be one heck of a workout using that thing all day long. Think I will stick with my 7 1/4” skill.

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#10 posted 02-07-2011 10:07 PM

I used to see these all the time when I lived in California. I was an engineer overseeing construction of cast-in-place concrete bridges. They were supported by temporary structure made usually from 12×12 posts and beams. The smarter guys knew when to use these (better fit/less adjustment/less settlement), vs. when chainsaws were more appropriate.

-- "A man may conduct himself well in both adversity and good fortune, but if you want to test his character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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John Stegall

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#11 posted 02-07-2011 11:06 PM

I have seen one of these saws for sale…actually it was a different brand (20+ yrs ago) and it was really heavy. As for driving a 16d in TWO blows, the old guys could do it in one. They used long handles. Larry Haun (Fine Homebuilding) was still doing this in his 60s. I ordered a video of his and he and his brother were driving 16ds with one blow and he even talked about how few guys could do this today.

-- jstegall

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#12 posted 02-07-2011 11:43 PM

How did they start the nail when they drive in in one whack? The guys I saw doing it would make a whack harder than I would ever want my fingers near and then a good one :-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Richard

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#13 posted 02-08-2011 08:05 AM

Thanks All! After looking at some of your Links I now notice that he has a piece of Redish Tape over the Dust/Chip Outlet. I guess that’s to prevent them from flying in his face?

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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childress

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#14 posted 02-08-2011 08:37 AM

Don’t know why he plugged the dust port. But then again, when I used to use one, it would spit out a tremendous amount of dust! And if you’re not careful, the kickback can really scare you. Need to have your feet really grounded before any cutting…That guy has a good stance

And his hammer only looks to be a 22 or 23 oz. The guys who would sink the “sinkers” in one hit would usually use a 32 oz hammer.

-- Childress Woodworks

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Dave

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#15 posted 02-09-2011 03:48 PM

Wow, I could demo interior walls from one side. Just make 4 cuts and holler timber!

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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Richard

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#16 posted 02-10-2011 03:52 AM

Super:

You got a lot younger looking!! Is that Cute Guy a Relative? I was thinking of using that saw for a Toe Nail Trimmer.
But my 7-1/2” Skilll Saw works just fine, so I’ll leave it at that …LOL…

Nice to hear from you again.

Take care: Rick aka “Hey You!”

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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Dave

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#17 posted 02-10-2011 04:06 AM

Rick thats my grandson Logan. A woppin 9 months old. I made the tool box with his name on it a few months ago. He still cant wrap his little paws around the hammer yet.
Dude I get lost on this site. Ill click on one thing then it leads to another and another. Then its bed time.
Power to the skill saw. Keep the blogs coming.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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auggy53

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#18 posted 02-10-2011 04:54 AM

i use to use a 26oz. framing hammer with a waffle head and i could only drive a 16d with 3 hits , 1 to set it and 2 to drive it home.i only did this to show off but not very often, and i have hit my thumb a few times and the waffle head just shreds the the thumb. now i use air nailers!

-- rick

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Dave

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#19 posted 02-10-2011 05:27 AM

hello my baby hello my darling hello my rag time gal. I love that cartoon. the curtain draws and the crickets chirp…...................

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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jmichaeldesign

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#20 posted 02-10-2011 05:42 AM

Check out this 20” beam saw and dado saw. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150407011187

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Dave

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#21 posted 02-10-2011 05:53 AM

Yeh its only $5000.00. I have also been in the market for a 2 stroke tooth pick. ;)

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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William

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#22 posted 02-10-2011 05:58 AM

I agree the hammer looks like about a 22 oz. I have a 22 oz. Eastwing over at my shop about the same size. I’ve had that hammer ever since I worked on a framing crew in my late teens. On that job, if you took more than three swings to “drive one home”, the forman would crawl up one side your @$$ and down the other. He wanted to know why you were goofing off. That was one swing to start the point of the nail, one swing to drive it, and a final swing (if you needed it) to sink the head. In the old foreman’s eyes, if you took more you were either goofing off or you were hurt and needed a few days off to recover (without pay of course).

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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