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Please help a router newbie

by DannyW
posted 12-16-2018 03:17 PM


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fuigb

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#1 posted 12-16-2018 03:47 PM

Could be, OP, that you’re hoping for a degree of cross-brand consistency that likely doesn’t exist, even among the mainstream brands. Machines can proute consistent performance but consistent does not necessarily translate into reliable. I’m a hobbyist as well and it took me a while to realize what the pros know: as counterintuitive as it may seem hand work or at least hand tweaking is the way to go overcome issue like you’re experiencing.

My advice is to do what you can to compensate and always have fun. When good-enough no longer cuts it there will be room for you in the threads for the various specialty planes.

-- - Crud. Go tell your mother that I need a Band-aid.

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DannyW

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#2 posted 12-16-2018 03:59 PM



Could be, OP, that you re hoping for a degree of cross-brand consistency that likely doesn t exist, even among the mainstream brands. Machines can proute consistent performance but consistent does not necessarily translate into reliable. I m a hobbyist as well and it took me a while to realize what the pros know: as counterintuitive as it may seem hand work or at least hand tweaking is the way to go overcome issue like you re experiencing. My advice is to do what you can to compensate and always have fun. When good-enough no longer cuts it there will be room for you in the threads for the various specialty planes.

- fuigb


Thanks fuigb, you may be right that I am expecting more than is practical. My grandfather (who died before I was born) was a carpenter and my father was constantly building and adding onto the house, and I inherited some of that myself as I have done a fair amount of rough diy work around the house, but never anything that I would ever call precise. I have always wanted to learn the skills necessary to do more precision work but just never got around to it until now (I’m 65 but not yet retired). I am just starting out on this journey and have everything ahead of me, so I am trying to learn little by little. I’m going to have fun at this, that is the main thing for now.

-- DannyW

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Rich

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#3 posted 12-16-2018 04:15 PM

Tight is what you want. The Kreg bar should fit into the groove, but quite snugly. In the case where you need a looser fit, say for a groove to slide a drawer bottom into, make one pass, then move the fence slightly and cut again to widen the groove. The cut depth is up to you. You apparently didn’t have the bit set high enough. That’s easy to deal with.

One tip for accurate movement of your fence is to use feeler gauges. To move the fence back by a few thousandths, clamp a board so the corner is touching the fence, then adjust the fence so it touches with the feeler gauge in place.

-- Knowledge is not skill. Knowledge plus ten thousand times is skill. -- Shinichi Suzuki

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DannyW

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#4 posted 12-16-2018 04:31 PM



Tight is what you want. If the Kreg bar should fit into the groove, but quite snugly. In the case where you need a looser fit, say for a groove to slide a drawer bottom into, make one pass, then move the fence slightly and cut again to widen the groove. The cut depth is up to you. You apparently didn t have the bit set high enough. That s easy to deal with.

One tip for accurate movement of your fence is to use feeler gauges. To move the fence back by a few thousandths, clamp a board so the corner is touching the fence, then adjust the fence so it touches with the feeler gauge in place.

- Rich


Thanks Rich that is exactly what I am seeing. Being a newbie and not knowing what to expect I thought it would not be loose but not as tight as it seems to be. Good to know that this is what is expected.

-- DannyW

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tmasondarnell

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#5 posted 12-16-2018 04:36 PM

Remember you are woodworking, not machining ;).

As Rich said, the width of the cut sounds right. As for the depth, there could be a number of things going on: the table is not flat, the stock is not flat, you did not have enough downward pressure on the board as you ran it across the bit, the height of the bit may have shifted during the process or when you tightened the lock nut, etc. While accuracy is important, what I find more important reputability. Can you make that cut over and over again and have each one of them be the “same” (or close enough).

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DannyW

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#6 posted 12-16-2018 05:28 PM



Remember you are woodworking, not machining ;).

Good point! Wood is not metal and has more give and take. I shouldn’t expect the same type of results.

-- DannyW

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