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Secret Recipe v General Finishes and Danish v BLO

by Noel
posted 12-08-2018 02:07 PM


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OSU55

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#1 posted 12-08-2018 02:38 PM

Reading This should help you make a decision. No secret recipe or blo or danish oil needed – just makes for a softer less durable finish (interior not exterior). Most any brand poly will work – I use minwax (ars is just another poly). Adjust # of coats and viscosity depending on application method and desired film thickness. Incorrect application – Too much gloss and too much film thickness – is where poly gets a bad rap for looking like plastic. For min sheen use satin and rub with 0000 – let it cure, not just dry. Unless you want a thick film use satin for all coats, it wont be any more cloudy looking. Advantage of satin is negative grain or defects wont shine like gloss – another reason for the “plastic look” bad rep.

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9x9

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#2 posted 12-08-2018 03:27 PM

^ ^ ^ Like what he says ^ ^ ^ ^

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#3 posted 12-08-2018 03:27 PM

Hallelujah! Decision made and article favorited. This kind of simple solution is exactly what I needed. Thanks OSU!

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#4 posted 12-08-2018 03:51 PM


Adjust # of coats and viscosity depending on application method and desired film thickness. Incorrect application – Too much gloss and too much film thickness – is where poly gets a bad rap for looking like plastic.

- OSU55


I agree with OSU55. If I may elaborate a bit: Don’t be afraid to thin the poly. 50% is not too much. Then apply in very thin coats. A blue paper shop towel folded into several thicknesses works well. Think like you are wiping a counter top with a well wrung out damp towel. You want to just leave it damp, not flooded. After you have the finish built up to your liking, I prefer finishing up with 600 grit wet/dry using soapy water to lubricate. Silky smooth.

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Noel

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#5 posted 12-08-2018 05:26 PM

Testing thin coat of 50% poly cut with mineral spirits now. Either wood is thirsty or this will require a lot of coats. No dramatic pop after 1st coat. Just for Ss and Gs, also testing arm-r-seal and straight BLO. BLO has best pop after 1st coat.

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OSU55

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#6 posted 12-08-2018 05:45 PM

I just noticed I left this part out of the blog – now updated – for the 1st 2 coats, keep the surface wet for 5–10 min, then wipe off the poly, not completely dry, but just a “damp” film.

Noel what is your definition of “pop”?

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Noel

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#7 posted 12-08-2018 07:34 PM

Sorry, I come from the printing industry where by pop, we mean rich, bright, vibrant color. I’d like the woods natural color to be brought out without muddying the grain or figure. Does that make any sense?

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CaptainKlutz

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#8 posted 12-08-2018 08:50 PM

Walnut pop?
Most my walnut is ugly grey/brown color derived from kiln drying with steam to balance color between sap & heartwood for an increase yield. I use dye 99+% of time on kiln dried walnut. Grain always pops with dye. Prefer to use highly diluted Transtint Mission Brown alone .vs. adding it to the 1st poly seal coat as OSU55 blog suggests. I use acetone/alcohol blend for dye stain solvent, and I can adjust color rubbing out with clean cloth wet with solvent blend.
For air dried walnut, don not need any color. I have had best grain pop rubbing on BLO, before using Arm-R-Seal poly. If you don’t flood coat the BLO, and you dilute it 50% with MS, it dries in reasonable time (<12-14 hours here in AZ).
YMMV

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Richard

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#9 posted 12-09-2018 01:13 AM


Adjust # of coats and viscosity depending on application method and desired film thickness. Incorrect application – Too much gloss and too much film thickness – is where poly gets a bad rap for looking like plastic.

- OSU55

I agree with OSU55. If I may elaborate a bit: Don t be afraid to thin the poly. 50% is not too much. Then apply in very thin coats. A blue paper shop towel folded into several thicknesses works well. Think like you are wiping a counter top with a well wrung out damp towel. You want to just leave it damp, not flooded. After you have the finish built up to your liking, I prefer finishing up with 600 grit wet/dry using soapy water to lubricate. Silky smooth.

- bilyo

Good Method all around.

Rick S.

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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