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Router: Edge Guide Build Advice

by MSquared
posted 11-29-2018 05:26 AM


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ChefHDAN

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#1 posted 11-30-2018 02:00 PM

From looking at the pics I can find of the model it looks a bit like a PC clone, and the $40 PC edge guide is VERY good. From the pic in the link you can see it has two sets of posts to fit different spacings, I use mine on my PC’s and it also fits my little Dewalt 611. I do have to say though that with a router table or straight edge clamps and most edge forming bits available with bearing guides I do not often find a need to go to the work of mounting the edge guide.

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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MSquared

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#2 posted 11-30-2018 05:23 PM

Thanks ChefHDan. Looking around LJ, I came upon a1Jim’s suggestion;

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/7953

I was wondering how useful an edge guide would be anyway. Is it a must have or a nice to have?

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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SMP

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#3 posted 11-30-2018 05:29 PM



Thanks ChefHDan. Looking around LJ, I came upon a1Jim s suggestion;

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/7953

I was wondering how useful an edge guide would be anyway. Is it a must have or a nice to have?

- MSquared

Personally I have never felt the need for an edge guide, but I guess it depends on what you are building and how many. I think in times it would have ever been of use, its better just to use my router table. YMMV.

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HokieKen

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#4 posted 11-30-2018 05:33 PM



Thanks ChefHDan. Looking around LJ, I came upon a1Jim s suggestion;

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/7953

I was wondering how useful an edge guide would be anyway. Is it a must have or a nice to have?

- MSquared

Mine is still in the original packaging if that answers your question… Of course if I didn’t have a router table with fence, that would be a different story.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#5 posted 11-30-2018 05:43 PM

For me it’s a “nice to have”. Think I used mine once right after I got it 5 years ago as some other jig or fence setup always seems better suited for the job. A lot depends on what you are doing and what kind of set up you have. I’d suggest getting (or building) a fence and table combo first (or table saw wing insert) and go from there. $40 is certainly affordable and a time saver but there are many DIY edge guides that can be made from scrap and work just as well. Spend the $40 on a good bit or two. Then after you get tired of bending over to adjust the height of the bit in your table, buy a lift, then Bob will be your sisters brother.

As an example, I have a Bosch 1617 and bought the edge guide for it as it had a very nice adjustment knob and a few other bells and whistles that the marketing folks did a good job of convincing me that I needed. Used it once. I can get the same stuff done using the fence twice as fast. Yes, it’s great to be able to micro adjust the edge guide but a slight tap on the fence does the same thing for me.

youTube is your friend. DIY router edge guides DIY router fences

JMHO

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#6 posted 11-30-2018 06:04 PM

Sorry. Double post.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#7 posted 11-30-2018 07:27 PM

Would that be this guide Andy?

‘Cause that’s the same one I still have in the package :-)

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#8 posted 11-30-2018 08:24 PM

^ Yep. Used it once. It’s in a drawer somewhere.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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MSquared

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#9 posted 12-01-2018 12:03 AM

Thank you all for your replies! Your answers to my ignorance will hopefully benefit others as well myself. I’m getting an education. Well, pictured below is what I have to work with. Keeping in mind I’m still getting a very small garage shop together and taking stock of what tools I have on hand. I’m sure there are parts lurking around somewhere yet to be found. I do have a router table with fence. Two, in fact. I plan on building a router table with storage down the line. I figure one of these will suffice for the time being. The Routers are; Porter Cable 1002 ( fixed base), C-Man 315.17461 (fixed base) and C-Man 320.27638 (fixed and plunge base). The C-man 320. I recently purchased on CL appears to have all the accessories…not all pictured. (except for the edge guide! Hence, the reason for my beginning this thread)

Your opinions? Got some keepers there?

PS; Sorry. Couldn’t figure out how to rotate the hastelly taken pix. And don’t even mention that pink wall. I’ll get to it!

Regards,

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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Andybb

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#10 posted 12-01-2018 12:10 AM

Since you have both bases for the C-man I’d put the PC in the table. My Bosh hasn’t seen the light of day for close to 4 years. I use a PC and a small Dewalt and a cheap Harbor Freight one that has a round-over bit that lives in it.

PS . Talk about the ultimate router table….watch this vid

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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MSquared

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#11 posted 12-01-2018 12:50 AM

Whoa! That’s a mind-blower, very cool!

In the meantime, are what I have viable tools? Sounds like you recommend keeping the PC installed in the table. It appears that the newer table is more functional. Let the older one go?

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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#12 posted 12-01-2018 01:40 AM


Whoa! That s a mind-blower, very cool!

In the meantime, are what I have viable tools? Sounds like you recommend keeping the PC installed in the table. It appears that the newer table is more functional. Let the older one go?

- MSquared

Up tp you. I’m just saying that taking routers in and out of a lift or table is a pain so decide which one you want in the table and leave it there. Even though it may seem counter intuitive you want to use the fixed base for mounting in the table unless the table has a different way to mount the router without a base. The PC has a way of “adjusting the height from the top of their routers once it’s mounted under the table. Don’t know about the Craftsman.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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MSquared

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#13 posted 12-01-2018 03:43 AM

Ah! Thanks Andy. Very good point. That router looks a lot like what I have. Gotta take a better look at the tables.

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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bandit571

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#14 posted 12-01-2018 04:11 AM

Look like yours?

I can use a simple Allen wrench to adjust heights with…
Have used to edge guide for this router several times…

Had 4 webframes ( for drawer guides) that I ganged up to route sliding dovetail pins…

This is how the edge guide looks…..

I do have another model’s edge guide…looks close to the same size…rods are set a tad narrower. router for it is long gone…and I keep confusing which is which….let me know if you want it.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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MSquared

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#15 posted 12-01-2018 04:27 AM

That’s the one Bandit! Sure, I’d be happy to have it! It would be a good addition to the shop. Especially once you tell me the story behind those dovetails! .... and how to do it :0)

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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MSquared

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#16 posted 12-01-2018 11:20 PM

Ah! I see what you’re doing there. Very efficient! Good example of what an edge guide can accomplish…

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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#17 posted 12-01-2018 11:33 PM

Chest of drawers had four web frames the drawers slide on. Ganged all four up..
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Set the guide to plow one “groove”

Reset the fence, plow a couple more

To make 1/2” dovetail “pins”....reset again and ..

Complete the pins on this end…rotate the assemble, and do the other ends, working backwards from the first settings…doing the middle last. Pins go into sliding dovetail sockets…

Router is guided by that homemade guide fence.

These are slid together as drawer runners. Add a back, and a face frame..

3 drawer chest of drawers.

I try to keep as much wood under the router’s base as I can…sometimes add extra pieces I clamp on,,,that way the router doesn’t rock.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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MSquared

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#18 posted 12-02-2018 03:32 AM

Interesting. A technique I’ll have to learn.

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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ChefHDAN

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#19 posted 12-04-2018 10:34 PM



Thanks ChefHDan. Looking around LJ, I came upon a1Jim s suggestion;

I was wondering how useful an edge guide would be anyway. Is it a must have or a nice to have?

- MSquared

You can’t go wrong with just about anything A1Jim recommends, he’s a great craftsman and teacher too.

I got a 2 base PC router combo as my third tool, after a cordless drill and my dads circulars. I did a lot of pattern routing for lots of decorator type things in my wife & I’s first house, and used the edge guide often. I next got the same small router table you have, and learned to do even more things.

Time passes, HD puts all of the stationary Grey tools on 60% clearance and voila all of a sudden I had almost a full shop, small tippy router table gets sold on CL & I put a wing into the table saw for it, (uses same fence!), and then a 3.25 hp router to run the big bits, then sell the Grey planer when HD put a display DW735 on clearance for $250…. and then there are clamps, and lay out tools…..

Some 12+ years later I’m sort of kinda at a point where it’s hard to find tools that I “Need” to buy. I’ve always tried to remember the saying, “A poor carpenter blames his tools”, but also remember that a “cheap” tool is more expensive because you’ll buy the same tools many times rather than a 1 and done. Become a Craig’s list watcher and have some mad money when something good pops up. Buy your tools as you’ve got projects that justify them, when you find yourself in a pickle trying to figure out how the hell can I cut that, or crap, it’s too big to manage on the router table it’s nice to have an edge guide …

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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bandit571

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#20 posted 12-04-2018 11:08 PM

Bit bit of Show & Tell?

This is for my current router…the “spare”?

Not sure which router it was on…

Both use the 5/16” rods….it is in the spacing..spare is 3-3/8” between centers…new one is 4-1/8” between centers

While one rod will fit through, and lock in..

The other rod misses the groove..

This is the “kit” I got…along with a couple wrenches, and the carry bag…will do both 1/4” and 1/2” shafts.
Not sure IF the spare will fit the OP’s router…PM IF you want the spare…before I throw it away..

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Jim Jakosh

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#21 posted 12-05-2018 09:30 PM

I always use a straight piece of wood for an edge guide when I don’t use the router station of a bit with a bearing on it. I never felt comfortable with the one that clamps on the rods. Maybe it is just me but I don’t get the feel of the router with that setup. I like the one point contact of the round router base.

cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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MSquared

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#22 posted 12-18-2018 03:27 AM

Hey Bandit. Turns out the edge guide fit my nephew’s router perfectly. A win-win. Thanks for passing it forward!

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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#23 posted 12-18-2018 03:54 AM

You are welcome.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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