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2019 Spring Surprise Project Swap

by EarlS
posted 11-28-2018 02:41 AM


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#251 posted 12-06-2018 12:45 AM

Unfortunately there’s not time for knots on a full set between now and Christmas with all the other gifts :-(

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#252 posted 12-06-2018 12:48 AM

I love Walnut. What other wood can look like this:

Then when you open it up, it looks like this?

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#253 posted 12-06-2018 12:55 AM

And of course y’all all like the swap geometry better. I never made a sketch for those…

But, the votes are in for solid handles! So 1/2 will be Walnut :-)

It’ll be a 6-driver set. Any votes for the accompanying wood? Something native to VA. Preferrably lighter colored I think to complement the Walnut. White Oak? Maple? Cherry? Hackberry? Holly? Pear? Alsio have spalted Maple in addition to “clean” Maple. Ash?

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#254 posted 12-06-2018 12:59 AM

spalted Maple would look totally awesome together IMO :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN :<))

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#255 posted 12-06-2018 12:59 AM

Holly would be very contrasting. I also like pear; fruit woods make nice tool handles.

-- Dave - Santa Fe

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#256 posted 12-06-2018 01:04 AM

They do indeed. Wish I had some Apple but I don’t.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#257 posted 12-06-2018 01:10 AM

maple- I’m partial to spalted for my set ;-)

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#258 posted 12-06-2018 01:13 AM

That’s cool Grant. You need to buy some? ;-P

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#259 posted 12-06-2018 01:14 AM

Pear, and hackberry. Any mulberry? You can’t go wrong with spalted maple.

BTW – no new entrants in the swap in the last 24 hours. C’mon you swap slackers.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#260 posted 12-06-2018 01:15 AM

If a guy were to pm me his address, I could drop a chunk of apple into a small flat-rate box tomorrow morning. Maybe get some pear in return?

-- Dave - Santa Fe

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#261 posted 12-06-2018 01:28 AM

Earl I’ve been recruiting for this swap over in the air nailer thread, maybe some of those guys will come over

Now I know where I stand on Kenny’s Christmas to-do list :-p It’s cool I do still owe him and a couple other guys a box of pecan. I’ve been “aging” it :-) It’s still alongside the driveway. That’s how it gets the cool spalting! Maybe it won’t rain for a few days in a row and I’ll slice a couple chinks and see how it’s looking!

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#262 posted 12-06-2018 01:40 AM

Just caught up on all the nonsense in this thread that I cannot un-see, unfortunately.
Here’s something else gross but equally bizzare:

That I saw today in Huntsville, TX.
Sign doesn’t even look that old.

While you guys are choosing Gilligan characters I’m looking at your previous swap projects and am humbled. Like a peasant at a meeting of kings.
Hopefully I can think of something soon that will be up to the high standards you have set in swaps past.

-- I'd rather be a hammer than a nail

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#263 posted 12-06-2018 01:42 AM

Don’t sweat it John you can put a nail in a door knob and call it a scratch awl. Or (and?!?) just send beer :-) we like beer

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#264 posted 12-06-2018 01:52 AM

Oh and Grant, I have kids too. 4 and 2 and 2. They are wonderful and there are not enough hours in the day to exhaust them. I bring them into my shop, they love it and its good for them, but I don’t get to use power tools during those times – too loud for now.


Don t sweat it John you can put a nail in a door knob and call it a scratch awl. Or (and?!?) just send beer :-) we like beer

- GrantA


-- I'd rather be a hammer than a nail

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#265 posted 12-06-2018 01:58 AM

I have gotten my girls into the shop on occasion, one of these days I’ll get the shop in order so they can have an area to tinker.

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#266 posted 12-06-2018 02:03 AM

These pics are a bit dated but when I built my workbench, I made them a scale model. Vise, pegs to pound, threaded dowels to screw…
Now it also has a hand crank grinder:

-- I'd rather be a hammer than a nail

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#267 posted 12-06-2018 02:15 AM

Thanks for all the input and quick feedback y’all :-). Got some Walnut and spalted Maple blanks sized and all my centers marked out. I’ll save the actual turning to start tomorrow.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#268 posted 12-06-2018 02:21 AM

Dave – I git this set covered but I got plenty of Pear and zero Apple so if you want to swap a box, I’m definitely up for it :-)

John – meeting of kings??? Geeze man, you need to re-read the thread! That last picture is awesome of the boys. It’s quite evident which one will be holding the other’s beer in a decade or so ;-) Some of us have to see how fast the grinder can spin and some of us have to make sure they don’t grind their business off in the process!

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#269 posted 12-06-2018 03:12 AM



Thanks for all the input and quick feedback y’all :-). Got some Walnut and spalted Maple blanks sized and all my centers marked out. I’ll save the actual turning to start tomorrow.

- HokieKen

EXCELLENT CHOICES Kenny :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN :<))

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#270 posted 12-06-2018 03:15 AM

Thanks Tony. Y’all picked em!

I haven’t forgotten this little guy inspired by Earl in the last swap:

Just haven’t been in the shop much lately. She’s about done though :-)). Just got to put some magnets in to hold the scale and sand/polish everything up and put a little finish on.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#271 posted 12-06-2018 03:40 AM

Kenny – Dang that is a seriously fine looking gauge you made.

John – now you did it…... Kenny will want us to genuflect to him and he’ll start wearing a purple cape with ermine trim when he’s out by the mail box. I guess I need to stop by Burger King and get him a crown too.

In all seriousness, the whole idea of the swap is to poke some fun at the fellow swappers now and again and make something that takes you out of your comfort level a bit. Your reward is interesting reading and a cool project sent to you by a fellow LJ. I don’t think anyone has been disappointed in what they got, except maybe if the beer sprang a leak during shipping.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#272 posted 12-06-2018 03:43 AM

Thanks Earl. It’s pretty rough at present but a little sandpaper and polishing compound will put some lipstick on that pig ;-)

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#273 posted 12-06-2018 03:47 AM

John – meeting of kings??? Geeze man, you need to re-read the thread!


I agree there is a marked difference in the quality of your projects and the quality of your banter and associated images…
That last picture is awesome of the boys. It’s quite evident which one will be holding the other’s beer in a decade or so ;-) Some of us have to see how fast the grinder can spin and some of us have to make sure they don’t grind their business off in the process!

- HokieKen


Thanks Kenny! That pic was something of an exception, though. Normally the skinny one is the intellectual and the short one is doing some serious damage:

-- I'd rather be a hammer than a nail

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#274 posted 12-06-2018 03:58 AM

Glad I ain’t a tree in your yard John ;-)

Or mine for that matter!

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#275 posted 12-06-2018 11:11 AM

Dave – I git this set covered but I got plenty of Pear and zero Apple so if you want to swap a box, I’m definitely up for it :-)

PM sent. Seems like a good idea to me.

Also reminds me I need to check with the co-worker who’s been drying my apricot in his back yard and see about getting a chunk of that back. Been four years now, it should be fairly well dried.

-- Dave - Santa Fe

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#276 posted 12-06-2018 12:12 PM

Dave – Hopefully Kenny or one of John’s boys haven’t been back there “watering” it.

A short rant:

I got cornered into “helping” a co-worker make a set of 50” corner TV shelves for her garage. I spent last night cutting the boards for it. After I finished cutting them, she asked me when I was coming over to install it. So Sunday afternoon is shot. It gets better. She has a carpenter renovating the garage for her but his estimate to do this work was “too expensive”. I’m trying to come up with a polite way to tell her my time isn’t free either. She ignores the subtle hints that I am busy and don’t have time. This is the 3rd time I’ve been roped into “helping” her with a project this year, which really means making it for her and installing it. At least she does buy the materials.

Ideas??

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#277 posted 12-06-2018 12:39 PM

Tell her your wife thinks you’re having an affair Earl.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#278 posted 12-06-2018 12:41 PM

Tell her you’re to busy making mallets and layout tools for strangers on a message board.

Rich

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#279 posted 12-06-2018 12:47 PM

Continuing the theme, tell her your wife already thinks you’re having an affair with strangers on a message board

Seriously though it’s a tough spot but just tell her. Folks don’t think about it sometimes – “homemade” items should be free right? Lol. If she has done it 3x she either is milking you for all its worth, or doesn’t realize.

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#280 posted 12-06-2018 12:49 PM

As long as he’s not having an affair with the mallets and layout tools strangers on a message board are sending him that he uses to put her stuff together.

Rich


Continuing the theme, tell her your wife already thinks you re having an affair with strangers on a message board

Seriously though it s a tough spot but just tell her. Folks don t think about it sometimes – “homemade” items should be free right? Lol.

- GrantA


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#281 posted 12-06-2018 01:05 PM

I got roped into that kind of thing a couple of times. I ended up jacking the price of the material a lot and said I needed a “special $259 tool” to do it. I over bought material and picked up a tool I wanted the returned the materials I didn’t use. It’s a bit of a cheat but after three of those projects it stopped. Thinking about it you probably needed a Kreg for the pocket screws to ensure the joint strength and an Incra miter gauge to make cuts. Of the appropriate precision. ;-)

-- Bill - Rochester MI

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#282 posted 12-06-2018 01:06 PM

In all seriousness Earl, I totally know where you’re coming from. With me it’s mostly from family so it’s even more of an awkward situation. But, when people tell me they got a quote and it was too much, I say something along the lines of “you better go with that, no way I can do it that cheaply” if they told me how much the quote was. If they didn’t say how much the quote was, I’ll say “I can do it but, I have a feeling someone who does it for a living and maybe has some help will probably do it for less than I would have to charge.”

But I think in your case, Grant is on it. If you’re planning to do the shelves anyway, I’d just have a conversation before/while you’re doing it and tell her that you really don’t have much free time and you have lots of stuff to do at your own house. So you’re happy to help with these shelves but in the future she should probably see if someone else can do the work instead because you’re stretched awfully thin.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#283 posted 12-06-2018 02:02 PM

I had a friend want a project he saw on amazon. All made of wood. He asked if I could make one and how much would I charge. I looked at it and did the calculations and it came out about double amazons price. I explained the reason my price was higher, mostly I am not in a factory mass producing it at low wages and the wood I use is of a higher quality (and cost). He passed on the order.

-- We all make mistakes, the trick is to fix it in a way that says "I meant to do that".

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#284 posted 12-06-2018 02:24 PM

Earl, sorry about the neighbor. The other guys mostly have it covered, but my Minnesota-nice (i.e. passive-aggressive) approach would be to just say “I’m awfully busy. Not sure when I will be able to get to it,” and then never get to it.

“Oh, sorry. This weekend I’m flossing my cat.” “Oh, I need to go in for elective surgery this week.” “Oh, the moon is retrograde in Leo this week – it’s a horrible time for woodworking.” That sort of thing.

-- Dave - Santa Fe

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#285 posted 12-06-2018 02:25 PM

Thanks for the ideas, comments. I figured I wasn’t the only one that has had this problem come up.

The “free” help part is the problem. While I’m not looking to get paid for “helping”, a thank you gesture, like a gift card or 6 pack of beer would be appreciated. If I’m asked to do a project and get paid for it, then I give a reasonable estimate for T&M.

I think I’ll pass on Rich’s idea, though. I might get in trouble with the wife with that one.

I tried using the “affair” excuse once and almost had to resuscitate my wife because she was laughing so hard she couldn’t breathe. So close…...

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#286 posted 12-06-2018 02:32 PM

You should actually have an affair with the woman Earl. That’ll teach your wife to laugh!

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#287 posted 12-06-2018 02:41 PM



You should actually have an affair with the woman Earl. That ll teach your wife to laugh!

- HokieKen

Hilarious!

Earl, you just have to learn to say no or give a price if you want to do it. The idea of getting free work from someone because someone else charges too much is a serious character flaw. If you offered, that’s one thing but to ask and expect it for free is just plain disrespectful. Especially after she was quoted and didn’t want to pay it. I hate to be the grump here but I think the whole situation is rude and it sounds like this would be project number three, which means it sounds like you kind of setup this expectation yourself with the previous two. A talk is in order buddy. Not a fun one but one that you need to have or you’ll feel like this every time and I guarantee you this wouldn’t be the last one.

.02

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#288 posted 12-06-2018 02:49 PM


John – meeting of kings??? Geeze man, you need to re-read the thread!

I agree there is a marked difference in the quality of your projects and the quality of your banter and associated images…

- JohnMcClure

He says. Then shows a picture of his kid watering a pine…

Yep, you’ll fit in fine John.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#289 posted 12-06-2018 02:54 PM

Now Earl, just to be clear. I hope you understand none of the advice given above regarding your girlfriend applies to us. So if we all ask for a batch of dice mallets for instance, you should do that without complaint letting the feeling of fulfillment suffice as the only recompense you need for your effort. And materials. And shipping. There’s enough fulfillment in there to cover those too…

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#290 posted 12-06-2018 03:09 PM

Another option is to screw it up something awful so they never ask for help again.

Rich

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#291 posted 12-06-2018 03:30 PM



Dave P – What plumbing parts? Iquiring minds want to know. And they want pictures too…

No plumbing parts. I was looking at them (because a p-trap kit would give me everything I need for cheap) when I realized if I buy shop-vac parts, I won’t have to worry about things not fitting.

I got a 2’ long 1 1/4” extension tube (the smaller size vacuum cleaner tube) and a converter to step it down from the 2.5” hose my Ridgid shop-vac uses.

Pictures probably will come after the weekend, but I plan to blog it.

- Dave Polaschek

I started stumbled upon that Bob Cosman bandsaw vacuum attachment idea a while ago but the way my bandsaw is setup, I would have to remove it to tilt the bed, which I actually do more often than expected, so never pulled the trigger. I am looking forward to seeing your pictures and blog. It would be a huge improvement because the dust collection on my bands saw sucks (or doesn’t actually).

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#292 posted 12-06-2018 03:31 PM

Kenny, Dave and Rich – The Three Wise Men or Wise Guys depending on your religious affiliation.

Kenny – you forgot the beer. Oh the humanity!!!!

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#293 posted 12-06-2018 03:37 PM

Kenny, instead of trying to salvage the turquoise, I just adjusted the design. Since it was to be a fairly flat platter, I just cut and carved it into a new shape.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#294 posted 12-06-2018 03:40 PM



Why we wear face masks when turning. I guess my epoxy patch didn’t work.

- Lazyman

Ouch!

-- I refuse to edit the photo orientation for this website any longer. It’s an issue they should address and correct. Gary, Texas

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#295 posted 12-06-2018 03:42 PM

Nathan – great save. The leaf looks awesome and would make a great platter.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#296 posted 12-06-2018 03:45 PM



“Oh, sorry. This weekend I’m flossing my cat.” “Oh, I need to go in for elective surgery this week.” “Oh, the moon is retrograde in Leo this week – it’s a horrible time for woodworking.” That sort of thing.

- Dave Polaschek

Hey wait a second, Dave has used two of these excuses to get out of swaps….

-- I refuse to edit the photo orientation for this website any longer. It’s an issue they should address and correct. Gary, Texas

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#297 posted 12-06-2018 03:46 PM

Outstanding save Nathan!
As for the bandsaw DC, yeah you can’t tilt the table with it in place. One of these days I’ll make a wedge or three for cutting bevels on there

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#298 posted 12-06-2018 03:47 PM



John – meeting of kings??? Geeze man, you need to re-read the thread!

I agree there is a marked difference in the quality of your projects and the quality of your banter and associated images…
- JohnMcClure

He says. Then shows a picture of his kid watering a pine…

Yep, you ll fit in fine John.

- HokieKen

I am glad I now have proof I’m not the only one working in the garage in my UnderRoo’s …. I was starting to feel awkward.

-- I refuse to edit the photo orientation for this website any longer. It’s an issue they should address and correct. Gary, Texas

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#299 posted 12-06-2018 03:49 PM

Great job saving that Nathan!

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#300 posted 12-06-2018 03:49 PM

Hey wait a second, Dave has used two of these excuses to get out of swaps…

Dang it. You’re not sniffing enough lacquer fumes, Gary. You’re not supposed to remember that. ;-)

-- Dave - Santa Fe

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