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Poplar as a Boat Dash Panel

by Blackfin29
posted 11-11-2018 10:27 PM


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John Smith

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#1 posted 11-11-2018 10:37 PM

Lou – with the proper filling with epoxy then thickened epoxy,
you can finish the edges of plywood that will sand as smooth as regular lumber.
in the enclosed flybridge, constant wetting will not be an issue.
but of course ~ plywood and poplar have no place on a nice boat !!
I would go with teak or mahogany, varnished and finished nicely.
jus my Dos Centavos
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Rich07081

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#2 posted 11-11-2018 11:14 PM

In my experience on the Maine coast , poplar is very prone to rot. I’d suggest marine grade plywood or teak like John recommended. If the dash is 100% protected from the weather, poplar will be OK.

Having read a fair amount of boat “porn”, I don’t remember anyone use poplar in a marine environment.

Have fun with your project!

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#3 posted 11-12-2018 12:20 AM

Ahem, if you have a Blackfin 29 …... TEAK!!!!!!

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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#4 posted 11-12-2018 12:50 AM

I guess my A-D-D is kicking in . . . I didn’t put the name to the boat

that is like someone that owns a mansion on the beach and asks if
it would be okay to use MDF for kitchen cabinet doors.
some things just aren’t supposed to be.

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#5 posted 11-12-2018 01:24 AM

hey some of them chartplotters are not that cheap TEAK :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#6 posted 11-12-2018 01:38 AM

Geeeesh Guys you’re rough….hahah… Trust me my entire salon is teak, from custom table top to all trim and cabinet doors and such. Teak deck is also the plan inside this winter on raised areas. So I’m not cheaping out.

Having said this, my flybridge look is the “Glass Helm” look… All black screens and white backdrops. Some guys use freaking Starboard which is the Marine version of MDF in my humble opinion. Though that Starboard has it’s uses in my cockpit as we fish exclusively.

Anyways… I was just looking for a wood, aside from Plywood, that I could finish in white gloss, 2-part Interlux paint. I can’t imagine the rash of heat had I said I was using PINE….hahhahahahaha…

But, you guys DEFINITELY snapped me back to reality and I’ll at the dag-gone very least use Mahogany EVEN if I am painting it!!! Maybe less prone to warping… then brings me back to Plywood like John said epoxy the edges etc….

All in good fun Gentlemen!!! Appreciate the input from all!!!

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#7 posted 11-12-2018 01:46 AM

you could very easy just use bondo for all edges …. and if you paint all the sides front and back I think ply wood would be a better choice the popular sorry if I sounded off :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#8 posted 11-12-2018 02:05 AM

there is nothing wrong with painting mahogany – I have done it many times.
is there a way you could fill the cavity with a fiberglass panel and scab it in ??
then you would have a solid fiberglass dash ready for any new equipment and gauges.
lots of grinding, sanding and coating out – but would look great !!
I make transoms for outboard boats using plain B/CX from the Box Store.
not even marine grade – epoxy it just right and it will last for the life of the boat.

[but, if you have been around boats long enough, you already know the tricks of the trade].

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#9 posted 11-12-2018 03:02 AM

If you want a clean look, fiberglass over marine ply, fair, then paint.

I used black starboard on my boat shown here, but I did not have a white helm. Don’t agree that it’s the MDF of the marine world.

-- Murphy's Carpentry Corollary #3: Half of all boards cut to a specific length will be too short.

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#10 posted 11-12-2018 12:52 PM

I didn’t know this was such a highly discussed topic on the web
until I googled “Glass Helm look on boat” this morning . . . . .
several boating forums have tons of good projects on this subject.
I guess the “Marine Craftsmen” that do this type of work
for a living are demanding such high prices that it is steering the
boat owners into doing the modifications themselves.
I still lean towards glassing in the cavity to accept the new electronics.
Fair Winds and Following Seas in all your nautical adventures.

(I personally have never used Starboard just because of the shear weight of it).

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#11 posted 11-12-2018 01:45 PM

I agree with John, glassing in the opening is the BEST way to do it.

-- Murphy's Carpentry Corollary #3: Half of all boards cut to a specific length will be too short.

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#12 posted 11-12-2018 11:28 PM



I agree with John, glassing in the opening is the BEST way to do it.

- sawdustdad

Let me guess… Tiara? Great helm…. regardless.

Impossible to argue that fiberglass would be the best way to go… Finish with gelcoat.

Sawdustdad.. I’m a Garmin guy as well. Furuno convert, go figure, but the simplicity of Garmin eventually got me.

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#13 posted 11-13-2018 02:39 AM



Geeeesh Guys you re rough….hahah… Trust me my entire salon is teak, from custom table top to all trim and cabinet doors and such. Teak deck is also the plan inside this winter on raised areas. So I m not cheaping out.

Having said this, my flybridge look is the “Glass Helm” look… All black screens and white backdrops. Some guys use freaking Starboard which is the Marine version of MDF in my humble opinion. Though that Starboard has it s uses in my cockpit as we fish exclusively.

Anyways… I was just looking for a wood, aside from Plywood, that I could finish in white gloss, 2-part Interlux paint. I can t imagine the rash of heat had I said I was using PINE….hahhahahahaha…

But, you guys DEFINITELY snapped me back to reality and I ll at the dag-gone very least use Mahogany EVEN if I am painting it!!! Maybe less prone to warping… then brings me back to Plywood like John said epoxy the edges etc….

All in good fun Gentlemen!!! Appreciate the input from all!!!

- Blackfin29

That is smart bud. Inside or not, you are in a humid environment all the time. I would hate to refinish is because the wood did not play nicely. Too much work.

-- A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer.

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#14 posted 11-13-2018 12:39 PM

and when you are entertaining the afternoon cocktail group,
the lady, holding her martini glass to her cheek while talking
blah blah blah and she glances over her shoulder and says . . . . . .
eeewwwwwwww is that PLYWOOD on your console ???
and the party goes downhill from there.

just food for thought.

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-- Failure is proof that you at least tried ~ now, go do it again, and again, until you get it right --

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#15 posted 11-14-2018 12:01 AM



and when you are entertaining the afternoon cocktail group,
the lady, holding her martini glass to her cheek while talking
blah blah blah and she glances over her shoulder and says . . . . . .
eeewwwwwwww is that PLYWOOD on your console ???
and the party goes downhill from there.

just food for thought.

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- John Smith

haha… well if she’s opposed to that there Plywood, I would be happy to take her in the salon and show her plenty of hard wood…. I mean Teak ;-)

Now that I think of it, I have a few long pieces of Iroko, or as my Teak Dealer calls it, African Teak…haha

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#16 posted 11-14-2018 12:26 AM

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#17 posted 11-14-2018 06:53 PM

Not to harp an old song, try paper ... Paperstone thar is or Richlite.
These material are recycled paper in a binder made for countertops but have found their way into all kinds of projects.
This material is easy to machine, eco friendly, very stable, can be glued/screwed, is available in many colors, and thicknesses.
Check out the Youtube videos of Richlite being used for guitar fingerboard and stage flooring.

Links to both.
Paperstone
Richlite

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#18 posted 11-15-2018 12:32 AM



Walnut.

- Woodknack

Why Walnut?

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#19 posted 11-15-2018 03:33 AM


Walnut.

- Woodknack

Why Walnut?

- Blackfin29

Yes, why walnut?

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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