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drill holes in hardwood

by joez
posted 11-03-2018 02:52 PM


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#1 posted 11-03-2018 05:06 PM

There are all kinds out there. You might be able to find a set of old bits at a junque shop but would most likely have to be able to sharpen them before they would work very good. There are also several different sets of augers available on Amazon but without knowing what chuck you have on the brace, I’m not sure which to suggest. They don’t have to be the square taped shank type for all chucks. Some will hold a hex shank.

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#2 posted 11-03-2018 07:29 PM

I never see ones that says this is for hardwood buy this.

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#3 posted 11-03-2018 07:51 PM

I have heard/read that Wood Owl bits are good. I’ve no personal experience, so take it with a grain of salt.

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#4 posted 11-03-2018 09:17 PM

The big question for me is what brace do you have? 10” throw is kinda the standard for average bits. Smaller throws are great for small bits, and bigger throws are a must for the large bits.
I have a 6”, 10” and 12” brace to meet all needs.

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SMP

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#5 posted 11-04-2018 02:48 AM

Does it only have the square jaw, or is it one of the multi-jaw?

Irwin still makes some square augers, but i’ve only seen them online.

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#6 posted 11-05-2018 12:18 AM

its a yankee bell the best

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#7 posted 11-05-2018 12:18 AM

now i just need the best auger

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KYtoolsmith

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#8 posted 11-05-2018 01:00 AM

I use a brace and augers frequently. My augers are of mixed manufacturers as I acquired them from several yard sales, junque shops etc over the years. There is a distinct difference between those for hardwoods and those for soft woods. Primarily its the lead screw pitch. (The lead screw is the small tapered point on the tip) Course thread for soft wood, fine pitch for hardwood. Additionally, single flute or double. Again, soft or hardwood.
Sharpening is a breeze. A fine warding file and a small square edge honing stone are all that’s needed.
Regards from Kentucky!

-- "Good enough" is just another way of saying "it could be better"...

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#9 posted 11-06-2018 03:20 AM

I dont want to rely on old bits but new ones, So my original question is who makes bits for hard wood.

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#10 posted 11-06-2018 03:30 AM

Google Fisch drill bits

I think they are the best bits the average guy can afford. Even their HSS drill longer, and better than most on the market at any price. That said buy a drill, because I am not sure you could chuck them on a hand drill….... Amazing holes too.

Though their website shows they have a number of augers. I have never seen them on this side of the pond, they come from Germany.

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#11 posted 11-06-2018 04:40 AM

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#12 posted 11-06-2018 11:17 PM

too expensive

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#13 posted 11-07-2018 12:18 AM

Joez,
You say you “don’t want to rely on old bits, but new”. My experience with older bits has been good… The steel is well tempered, straight, and accurate for hole boring… I can always rely on them. They stay sharp, don’t bend or break… Yes, they are old, but that doesn’t make them unreliable or of poor quality. In my opinion, just the opposite! You wanted manufacturer names; I have Irwin, Pexto, and Bluegrass. I often see sets in like new condition for little money, $20 to $30. I even found a set in its original packaging… Don’t believe it had ever been used. I guess it’s personal preference. There are new sets out there, but equivalent quality is likely pricey. I often jokingly tell people that all my tools are older than I am… And it’s not too far from true… I guess I’m just wondering; Why new?
Regards, Kentucky Toolsmith.

-- "Good enough" is just another way of saying "it could be better"...

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#14 posted 11-07-2018 01:04 PM

If you decide to check out old bits, Shannon Rogers, Renaissance Woodworker on YouTube, recommends this guy.

-- John

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#15 posted 11-07-2018 01:45 PM

I have seen somewhere an adapter which allows you to use modern bits in a brace. With one of those you will have more options. The wood owl self-feeding bits (ultra-smooth tri-cut auger bit) are intended for cordless drills. I have a few but have only used the 5/8. Works wonderfully.

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#16 posted 11-07-2018 09:38 PM

LOL you asked for the best bits for hardwood, then say “too expensive”

You can’t have it both ways, personally I like the old bits. They are easy to sharpen and the steel is GREAT! There is a reason those old auger bits are still being used today and are 50+ yr old

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#17 posted 11-07-2018 10:21 PM

Please tell me why it is better to use a brace than a regular drill? I have several braces and tons of bits from tool sales over the years but I just use electric power. “I love me some forstner bits and a drill press BAYBEE!!”

I do agree with KY, old steel is the best at holding edges and staying straight. too much danger of buying Chinese garbage with new tool steel.

This may sound like blasphemy but I have been known to cut the square tang off an old bit and chuck it into my Milwaukee Magnum! (More Power!)

The bits are pretty easy to sharpen too. Just a couple minutes with a flat oil stone and you can rock.

-- I remember when Grateful wasn't Dead

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#18 posted 11-07-2018 10:59 PM


Please tell me why it is better to use a brace than a regular drill?

Because it’s easier and more controlled to use a brace and bit to drill long, large holes. The lead screw keeps the bit from wandering. It’s also quieter, won’t cook your bit, and results in less chance of blowout than muscling a Forstner bit through thick hardwood.

I love my drill press too, and there’s definitely cases where you’ll get more accurate holes with Forstner bits or hole saws or regular drill bits. But there’s a reason people still use brace/bits decades after the introduction of electric drills.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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#19 posted 11-07-2018 11:54 PM

Lot of great ideas above, garage sales, flea markets ect. As for old vs new, my thoughts are things are not built like they were once upon time

I do not not your location. But if you are near any boat yards that build wooden boats. Thay may be able to stear you in the right direction.

Good luck on your finds

-- Eric, Upstate South Carolina

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#20 posted 11-08-2018 12:10 AM

Vintage ( NOT the new ones) Irwins. Then the fine thread EC Jennings….

Drilling a new dog hole.

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#21 posted 11-08-2018 02:12 AM

I like to use brad point drill bits to keep drill holes from drifting in hardwood. I recently needed to remove broken dowels from an old wooden chair frame. The bit stayed right on line to the end of the dowel.

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