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Advice on Hard maple dinner table project (first timer)

by GLI
posted 10-29-2018 01:23 PM


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duc996

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#1 posted 10-29-2018 01:58 PM

I would apply a few coats of natural danish oil to bring out the natural color of maple and let dry for a week. I would then apply at least three coats of minwax polycrylic water based poly. Of course sand in between coats. Good luck!

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Robert

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#2 posted 10-29-2018 04:01 PM

Yes, you may consider just going with a top coat. You’re options are basically varnishes and polyurethane.

I recently build a dining table and used EmTech 8000 conversion varnish. Very happy with it.

If you don’t have the capability to spray, I would avoid this material it really has to be sprayed.

Good to avoid stains maple is very subject to blotching.

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bilyo

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#3 posted 10-29-2018 06:30 PM

As duc996 said, danish oil will pop the grain. Keep in mind that it will impart a slight amber color to the maple. If you want a lighter color, try tung oil. Apply it about the same way. Which ever one you use, make sure it is fully cured before applying a water based finish. Some might recommend applying a coat of blond shellac between the oil and the water based finish.

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FrankTuna

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#4 posted 10-30-2018 05:21 PM



Yes, you may consider just going with a top coat. You re options are basically varnishes and polyurethane.

I recently build a dining table and used EmTech 8000 conversion varnish. Very happy with it.

If you don t have the capability to spray, I would avoid this material it really has to be sprayed.

Good to avoid stains maple is very subject to blotching.

- rwe2156

I’ve heard good things about Target Coatings and looked at this type quickly online. Can I ask a few questions??I’m new to spraying but have a Fuji turbine system on the way.

Is this finish tricky, or doable for someone new to spraying?

It looks like its low VOC. I’ll have to spray in my basement and will wear a respirator. Are there any issues with fumes or smells that should be considered?

Thanks!!!

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Dustin

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#5 posted 10-30-2018 05:37 PM


Yes, you may consider just going with a top coat. You re options are basically varnishes and polyurethane.

I recently build a dining table and used EmTech 8000 conversion varnish. Very happy with it.

If you don t have the capability to spray, I would avoid this material it really has to be sprayed.

Good to avoid stains maple is very subject to blotching.

- rwe2156

I ve heard good things about Target Coatings and looked at this type quickly online. Can I ask a few questions??I m new to spraying but have a Fuji turbine system on the way.

Is this finish tricky, or doable for someone new to spraying?

It looks like its low VOC. I ll have to spray in my basement and will wear a respirator. Are there any issues with fumes or smells that should be considered?

Thanks!!!

- FrankTuna

Frank, I did my first spray project this year using Target Coatings products (albeit, it was the EM9000 and EM6500). The odor to me was no issue: it’s hard to describe, but it wasn’t a strong chemical stench at all. As for ease of use, the 2 products I mentioned did an excellent job of self-leveling and were very forgiving-really ideal as it was my first time spraying.

If you have some scrap boards, or even just some cardboard lying around, it certainly wouldn’t hurt to practice on that. Otherwise, I didn’t find the learning curve too steep. I was using an Earlex 5500, so there was a little less configuration to fiddle with than you’ll have on your Fuji.

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SMP

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#6 posted 10-30-2018 05:57 PM

Has anyone tried the Osmo Polyx oil in the Matte finish? I am curious about that one. As I have only see the satin, and it looks great and seems to protect very well.

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Bill_Steele

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#7 posted 10-30-2018 06:23 PM

If you want to add color you can use a stain or a dye OR you can add the stain or dye to the urethane. I would suggest researching the use of water versus oil based finishes. I would suggest using a wipe-on finish. Research how to sand and what type of abrasive to use between coats to achieve a smooth finish.

I suggest General Finishes Oil and Urethane – Satin. This is a simple to apply finish that will provide protection but not appear as a film on the wood. The oil will help bring out the figure and the urethane will provide protection. I just wipe it on out of the can. Sand lightly with a medium to fine synthetic abrasive pad between coats. Four coats should do the trick.

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OSU55

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#8 posted 10-30-2018 10:18 PM

I add some color to most projects, sometimes a little sometimes a lot. Helps bring out the grain. Maple blotches, and needs to be conditioned and you can read about blotch control here. Rest of my comments are based on your very limited experience – there are other finishes and methods but kiss. Also read the blog about oils vs poly. Being a dining table it should be finished with poly, oil based unless you can spray (let me know different instructions). I use plain old minwax poly, satin in this case for a matte finish. It will be thinned 1:1 with mineral spirites. Research wd lockwood oil based dye. Dissolve the dye with naptha.

Have test boards. Use them to test the finish schedule or steps. Completely finish a test board before touching your project. The dye will be mixed into the thinned poly. Test until you get the desired color and intensity. Apply conditioner as described. Apply poly like danish oil.Flood the surface with the poly and dye, keep wet for 10 min, wipe off, let dry a few hrs, repeat. Now apply the poly as a wiping varnish – plenty of info out there – with or without dye, depends on color and intensity you want. That should keep you researching for a while.

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