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what sand paper

by Karda
posted 10-13-2018 03:54 AM


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CWWoodworking

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#1 posted 10-13-2018 04:01 AM

Sander?
Grit?
Wood?
How wood is dressed?

I like Mirka because I have a good distributor. If you have a mirka distributor local, I can make some decent suggestions. But we need to know what your current sander is?

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#2 posted 10-13-2018 04:36 AM

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#3 posted 10-13-2018 10:30 AM

Why don’t you do an online search of local Home Depot or Lowes and see what they have on hand. If don’t have a store close by check other hardware stores in your area.

https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=sandpaper+sheets

https://www.homedepot.com/s/9x11%2520sheet%2520sandpaper?NCNI-5

Since cannot always find grits of aluminum oxide or garnet 9×11” paper sheets I been ordering from these folks. Give them a call and get their catalog. As you know order by 50 sheet box so pay less than $1per sheet.

https://www.woodworkingshop.com/

You might be interested in their bargain boxes. Lot of woodturners swear by those bargain boxes although have never ordered one.

https://www.woodworkingshop.com/category.aspx?id=61

-- Bill

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Lazyman

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#4 posted 10-13-2018 11:17 AM

It may depend a little on what the use is; for example, sanding on the lathe vs. ROS, belt or just hand sanding. For fine finishing (320+ grit) on the lathe for example, I like the Abranet mesh paper. It is a little pricey but seems to last much longer than traditional paper. With traditional 320+ grit paper, they sometimes clog within seconds but with the mesh, you just flick it with your finger and most of the dust is gone. They (Mirka) sell a cheaper mesh paper for auto body work (Autonet?) that I think may be cheaper. but I have not tried it yet.

I have been very impressed with the 3M Ultra Flexible paper longevity as well. I initially got a sample sheet with in another package of 3M paper and was amazed at how well it works. It looks very flimsy but it doesn’t clog like tradition papers do and it actually holds up to sanding on the lathe better too, IMO. I haven’t tried it on an orbital sander but I do find myself reaching for it when sanding by hand and on the lathe. It is actually my favorite paper and I would estimate that it lasts at least 2-3 times longer than any traditional paper backed sandpapers I have used.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#5 posted 10-13-2018 11:31 AM

I have started ordering from this company. I like the hook and loop 5”. Prices are better than retail
http://www.industrialabrasives.com/

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#6 posted 10-13-2018 12:53 PM

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#7 posted 10-13-2018 01:11 PM

I order a lot from Klingspor Woodworking and like the quality and shipping.

Norton also makes very good sand paper.

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#8 posted 10-13-2018 04:23 PM

Has anybody got the Klingspor bargain box how are they a good deal

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#9 posted 10-13-2018 05:30 PM

www.supergrit.com

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#10 posted 10-13-2018 06:31 PM

I’ve made one variety box of abranet last almost a year so far and I use the piss out of it.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#11 posted 10-13-2018 07:49 PM

Abranet does last long enough to make it a good deal, it doesn’t clog, and its flexibility come in handy.

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#12 posted 10-13-2018 07:53 PM

Like said before never bought a bargain box but plenty of turners from these sites have:

http://www.ncwoodworker.net/forums/forum.php
https://forums.woodnet.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=12
http://www.woodcentral.com/woodworking/forum/turning.pl/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/GlobalWoodturners/?ref=bookmarks
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/6034

Other than BigJohn’s review here (last one) never read one bad review over many many years of people posting their satisfaction with bargaib boxes.

Unlike Big John, often start with 100 or 120 AL grit paper! I am old school and often finish with higher grit garnet paper.

Might try #5 or #10 bargain box for $19 or $20 + shipping.

-- Bill

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#13 posted 10-13-2018 08:53 PM

thanks for your suggestions, there is a lot to choose from, I probaibly do a bargin box to start with, now to chose which one. I have one question is garnet a good paper.Year ago when I worked in a hardware store the garnet and flit were the cheapies and didn’t hold up well, but that was 35 years ago, how are they today thanks Mike

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#14 posted 10-13-2018 08:59 PM

Not a huge fan of garnet.

Have a woodcraft bargain box. Meh.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#15 posted 10-13-2018 09:10 PM



Abranet does last long enough to make it a good deal, it doesn t clog, and its flexibility come in handy.

- Mr_Pink

+1

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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#16 posted 10-13-2018 09:12 PM

https://www.woodworkingshop.com/

You might be interested in their bargain boxes. Lot of woodturners swear by those bargain boxes although have never ordered one.

https://www.woodworkingshop.com/category.aspx?id=61

- Wildwood

I would agree with this Comment.

Rick S.

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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#17 posted 10-14-2018 10:54 AM

Only use garnet for finishing raw wood after finish sanding with aluminum oxide grits. When hand sanding or lathe at low speed garnet breaks down (its friable) and softer than aluminum oxide thus better for final sanding. For doing spot repairs on furniture with a finish on it already garnet is my go to sandpaper!

Aluminum oxide doesn’t break down that much but does gets dull. Dull alluminum oxide sand paper burnishes wood surfaces and can affect finish penetration and leave sanding scratches on wood surface.

Depending upon surface of the wood before me, may start & end with aluminum oxide sandpaper. Other times will finish sanding with garnet sandpaper. Yes garnet is cheaper than aluminum oxide paper.

Both have there place for preping a wood surface for finishing!

For power sanding use 2 3/8” blue-flex-discs & now zirconia max discs. Haven’t used those zirconia discs yet.

http://vinceswoodnwonders.com/blue-flex-discs/

-- Bill

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#18 posted 10-14-2018 12:22 PM

Go for a brand name. It’s not that much more money.

3M
Norton
Klingspor
Abranet
Mirka

Most can be found on line or at hardware stores. I buy Norton paper at the local NAPA store. I always have a selection of papers from 80 grit to 2000 grit because of the variety of things I make and work on.

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#19 posted 10-14-2018 01:18 PM

dont ask me I use gator grip only till I dont have no more which wont take long cuz these discs only last 5 mins at best :<((((((((((((

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#20 posted 10-14-2018 01:24 PM

Maybe get some wet and dry paper as well to sharpen some chisels.

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#21 posted 10-14-2018 02:09 PM

I don’t use much sandpaper, but I’m a big fan of the Klingspore Bargain Boxes. My last box was PSA rolls. All good quality stuff in a wide range of grits.

-- Sawdust Maker

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#22 posted 10-14-2018 02:18 PM

+ 10 on industrial abrasives .. its the best, get the white line Rhino
they can also make or have all your belts and spindal sleeves as well as i buy their rapes and cut my own for my drum sander

I also like the Mirka abranet ,alot

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Karda

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#23 posted 10-14-2018 04:04 PM

ok thanks, I ordered a Klingspor #10 box that should last me a while. I will need some higher grits i will no what to look for thanks Mike

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#24 posted 10-14-2018 08:02 PM

This looks like it could be a rough topic and no easy way to finish it!

-- "It's fine in practise but it will never work in theory"

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#25 posted 10-14-2018 08:13 PM


This looks like it could be a rough topic and no easy way to finish it!

- oldnovice

Don’t be so abrasive.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#26 posted 10-14-2018 09:32 PM

you are right this is a very abrasive topic

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#27 posted 10-16-2018 04:13 AM

I like using Abranet.I opened up new grits the other night and it does such a nice job-no saw dust up and it doesn’t clog…

-- Jeff,Tucson,Az.

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#28 posted 10-16-2018 04:54 AM


This looks like it could be a rough topic and no easy way to finish it!

- oldnovice

Don t be so abrasive.

- Rich

I file that one away for future use

Yeah I know. File not sandpaper. Weak.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#29 posted 10-16-2018 05:52 AM

This looks like it could be a rough topic and no easy way to finish it!

- oldnovice

Don t be so abrasive.

- Rich

I file that one away for future use

Yeah I know. File not sandpaper. Weak.

- TheFridge

Of coarse you will. That’s fine with me.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#30 posted 10-16-2018 09:25 PM

I surrender!

-- "It's fine in practise but it will never work in theory"

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#31 posted 10-16-2018 11:40 PM

What can I say? I no longer have the backing that possesses enough grit to help me get the job done properly. I will leave now.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#32 posted 10-17-2018 01:38 AM



Has anybody got the Klingspor bargain box how are they a good deal

- Karda

Yes and yes
The paper is cloth backed and one piece lasts forever!
The amount and selection was great
I have hardly even put a dent I. The box in a year
Scott

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#33 posted 10-17-2018 03:02 AM

0k thanks

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