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Planer marks

by LeopoldWallace
posted 10-06-2018 03:21 PM


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Gene Howe

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#1 posted 10-06-2018 03:40 PM

Flip the blades and try to find some better ones to replace the stock ones. Better yet, return it and get a Dewalt.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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the_other_ken

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#2 posted 10-06-2018 03:47 PM

The first picture looks like some chip out. You can try feeding the board with the other end in first…the grain should “rise” to the back end of the board. You can also try taking a shallower cut. You should probably consider 1/16” about maximum for a cut with a portable planer. I would probably try 1/32” if a board is giving me a problem like that. You can also try to slightly wet the board with a damp cloth … let it sit for a couple of minutes after you do this. On some woods this is unavoidable … that’s why some planers have the new helical heads and why some people insist on using hand planes :)

The other picture shows snipe. Take shallow cuts and make sure that you lock your head (if your planer has a head lock). Also hold the board up slightly when feeding into the planer and do the same toward the end of board after has passed through the planer. The easiest way it just to make your board a few inches too long and cut off the snipe.

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bondogaposis

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#3 posted 10-06-2018 03:52 PM

Yes, run the board in the other direction, very light cut. Did you buy your planer new? If not replace the blades.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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LeopoldWallace

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#4 posted 10-06-2018 04:02 PM

Bought it new. First time using it. First few passes were great, but then suddenly the marks appeared.


Yes, run the board in the other direction, very light cut. Did you buy your planer new? If not replace the blades.

- bondogaposis


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LeopoldWallace

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#5 posted 10-06-2018 04:04 PM

Trust me, if I had the budget for it I would’ve bought the Dewalt.


Flip the blades and try to find some better ones to replace the stock ones. Better yet, return it and get a Dewalt.

- Gene Howe


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JRsgarage

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#6 posted 10-06-2018 04:14 PM

Pretty normal on any planer from my experience. Lot of ways to try to address them…adjust the in-feed table probably the easiest but I seem to get them pretty random regardless of my attempts to remedy. I even get them on my drum sander when i try to take too much.

-- “Facts don't care about your feelings.” ..., Ben Shapiro

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Andybb

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#7 posted 10-06-2018 04:19 PM

Gotta disagree with the “buy a Dewalt” plan. Yes, the 2nd pic is snipe and there are plenty of posts and youtube vids on how to eliminate that. The first pic looks like tear out and some wood just does that, especially figured wood. With sharp blades my 20 year old Delta lunchbox planes smooth as a baby’s butt unless I try and plane anything with even a little figure in it. My friend’s brand new Dewalt 735 has tearout on the same wood as mine does, (I too thought WTF this planer sucks) so don’t blame your new planer yet. If you want to play the name game you can probably find a Dewalt on CL for the $ you spent on the WEN but unless you’re gonna spend a lot of $ on helical heads it may make no difference. Cheap vs Dewalt? Watch this vid before you spend more $. Matthias Wandel does a great comparison.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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LeopoldWallace

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#8 posted 10-06-2018 04:33 PM

Bought this one new for $200 even on promotion on Amazon. Can’t complain about price. Just want make sure these marks don’t persist.


Gotta disagree with the “buy a Dewalt” plan. Yes, the 2nd pic is snipe and there are plenty of posts and youtube vids on how to eliminate that. The first pic looks like tear out and some wood just does that, especially figured wood. With sharp blades my 20 year old Delta lunchbox planes smooth as a baby s butt unless I try and plane anything with even a little figure in it. My friend s brand new Dewalt 735 has tearout on the same wood as mine does, (I too thought WTF this planer sucks) so don t blame your new planer yet. If you want to play the name game you can probably find a Dewalt on CL for the $ you spent on the WEN but unless you re gonna spend a lot of $ on helical heads it may make no difference. Cheap vs Dewalt? Watch this vid before you spend more $. Matthias Wandel does a great comparison.

- Andybb


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Andybb

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#9 posted 10-06-2018 05:31 PM


Bought this one new for $200 even on promotion on Amazon. Can’t complain about price. Just want make sure these marks don’t persist.
- LeopoldWallace

On that wood they may. You may need to either hand plane or sand.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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LesB

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#10 posted 10-06-2018 05:37 PM

The two problems shown are common to all planers and the second and third responses were correct for the problems you pictured..

One way to reduce the end “snipe” is to lift up slightly on the board just before it leaves the planer. Part of what is happening is there there is a pressure roller in front and behind the planer blade and just before the wood leaves the planer the front roller no longer contacts the wood so the last few inches have a tendency to move upward and the cutter digs in a little deeper leaving the snipe. By manually raising the outboard end of the wood you reduce this upward movement.
The next thing you may notice is fine raised lines in the planed wood. That is caused by nicks in the blades. This can usually be fixed by slightly moving one of the blades sideways a little so the nicks don’t line up with each other and are removed.
Also remember that planed wood needs to be sanded because the planer tends to compress the surface wood, especially as the blades get duller, and then the wood does not take on stain or finish as well.

-- Les B, Oregon

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Gene Howe

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#11 posted 10-07-2018 01:08 AM

I figgered I’d catch some flack about the Dewalt recommendation. I’ve worn out a Grizzly, a Rigid and a Delta. If/when my Dewalt bites the dust…pun intended… it’ll be replaced with another Dewalt. But then, I’ve never used a Wen.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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firefighterontheside

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#12 posted 10-07-2018 02:07 AM

To me those look like marks left on the wood as chips of wood get pressed into the wood by the feed roller. This will happen with my Dewalt when I forget to turn on dust collector. It’s most notable on soft wood like the pine you’re planing.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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lumbering_on

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#13 posted 10-07-2018 03:21 AM

I always wonder if people just hate sanding or if they are getting really deep snipe from their planers? I have a Mastercraft lunchbox planer (the one Matthias uses in the video Andy mentions) and it only takes me a few seconds extra with a ROS to get rid of any evidence of snipe. Are people really spending more time than that?

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Andybb

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#14 posted 10-07-2018 06:12 PM



I figgered I d catch some flack about the Dewalt recommendation. I ve worn out a Grizzly, a Rigid and a Delta. If/when my Dewalt bites the dust…pun intended… it ll be replaced with another Dewalt. But then, I ve never used a Wen.

- Gene Howe

No flack intended. Sorry. I have Dewalt stuff and love it. I just didn’t think his problem was brand related. Like I said, I took my recent boards with the same issue to my friend who has a brand new 735 and still had the same issue. I’d love a 735.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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