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Help with id’ing some alder :-)

by Andybb
posted 09-26-2018 03:25 AM


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CWWoodworking

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#1 posted 09-26-2018 03:36 AM

Doesn’t look like alder to me at all. Is there finish on it?

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Aj2

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#2 posted 09-26-2018 03:56 AM

Thumbs down on Alder, thumbs up for pallet wood.

-- Aj

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lumbering_on

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#3 posted 09-26-2018 04:07 AM

The grain is all wrong. Alder tends to be rather straight, and not very pronounced. This screams pine.

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#4 posted 09-26-2018 04:25 AM

I’d vote alder elm. Has an elm-y look. If it wasn’t alder.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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RichBolduc

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#5 posted 09-26-2018 11:18 AM

Stabilized and dyed alder

Rich

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pottz

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#6 posted 09-26-2018 05:52 PM

i agree its not alder,ive worked with alder and the grain pattern doesnt look right.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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CaptainKlutz

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#7 posted 09-26-2018 08:38 PM

Have no clue;
but it looks like flat sawn Elm or Ash limb wood, covered with American walnut stain.

This always helps me when I need to figure out a wood type:
https://www.wood-database.com/wood-finder/

Best Luck.

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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#8 posted 09-26-2018 08:40 PM

Do you have any end grain pics?

-- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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Andybb

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#9 posted 09-26-2018 08:54 PM

I was only kidding about the alder guys.

It’s very dense which is why I’m thinking rosewood.

End grain shot.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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lumbering_on

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#10 posted 09-26-2018 10:06 PM

Definitely not stained pine. :(

I’m going to go with The Fridge and guess Red Elm based on the end grain. However, is how heavy is it? Elm is something like half the weight of Rosewood, but would be around the same as Red Oak.

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Andybb

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#11 posted 09-26-2018 10:28 PM

Definitely heavier than oak. I’m using it for 1/4 round accent trim so it really doesn’t matter. When somebody asks “what kind of wood is that” I like to be able to not say I don’t know. :-)

It came from a luthier who closed up and I think he was gonna use it for fret boards.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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WDHLT15

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#12 posted 09-27-2018 11:51 AM

The pore structure in the end grain indicates that it is a tropical hardwood.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT40HD35 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln. hamsleyhardwood.com

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ScottM

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#13 posted 09-27-2018 02:45 PM

Tigerwood, or Goncalo Alves. I have some in my stack but the black streaks are not that prominent in what I have.

Looks pretty similar.

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Andybb

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#14 posted 09-27-2018 05:43 PM



The pore structure in the end grain indicates that it is a tropical hardwood.

- WDHLT15


Tigerwood, or Goncalo Alves. I have some in my stack but the black streaks are not that prominent in what I have.

Looks pretty similar.

- ScottM

Seems to make sense. Thanks guys.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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robscastle

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#15 posted 10-24-2018 10:43 PM

If its disproportionaly (sic) heavy for its size ask Crowie as I think I saw something similar at his shop last week.

-- Regards Rob

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TheFridge

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#16 posted 10-24-2018 11:23 PM

End grain looks African Alder mahoganyish. The face looks elm-y. Alder elm of course.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Ripper70

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#17 posted 10-25-2018 01:24 AM


It came from a luthier who closed up and I think he was gonna use it for fret boards.

- Andybb

Well, that should help narrow it down some. Maple, Ebony and Rosewood are what almost all fretboards are made from. It ain’t Maple or Ebony.

Conclusion: Alder.

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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DS

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#18 posted 10-25-2018 05:12 PM

What we need is a new App that randomly makes up realistic-sounding fake wood names so we can answer the “what kind of wood is that question”.

(taps on phone) “Why yes, that’s Elmasish Alderwood


Definitely heavier than oak. I’m using it for 1/4 round accent trim so it really doesn’t matter. When somebody asks “what kind of wood is that” I like to be able to not say I don’t know. :-)

It came from a luthier who closed up and I think he was gonna use it for fret boards.

- Andybb


-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#19 posted 10-25-2018 05:18 PM

I’m going to go with “tree wood”.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#20 posted 10-25-2018 05:22 PM

It could be “the expensive Blackwalnut” from trees you must pay for the privilege of cutting down.

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Rich

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#21 posted 10-25-2018 05:38 PM

Madera de Arbol

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#22 posted 10-25-2018 05:49 PM



Madera de Arbol

- Rich

Definitely this. I have used madera de arbol A LOT – enough to consider myself an expert on what it is, and I’m not just saying this. I mean it.

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Rich

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#23 posted 10-25-2018 06:15 PM

Madera de Arbol

- Rich

Definitely this. I have used madera de arbol A LOT – enough to consider myself an expert on what it is, and I m not just saying this. I mean it.

- ColonelTravis

¡Mi Compadre!

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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