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Dust collection with a Triton TRA 001 router in a router table

by groland
posted 09-24-2018 07:11 PM


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therealSteveN

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#1 posted 09-24-2018 07:42 PM

In a table situation Like you have, I removed the shields for 2 reasons on mine.

1) To allow for dust collection

2) To reduce potential for heat buildup. I too have that birdhouse around my router, not sure I will do that again on the next router table build, but Narmon made it famous, so I thought I would pay homage on the last table, shed, cabinet I built for routing. I have since taken off the stupid window/door.

After years of using tools I’ve acquired some weird (by other peoples estimation) habits. One of them is to fairly regularly touch tools, especially if they have been running a while, for what I determine to be excessive heat. I’ve had a bunch of routers back to the early 1960’s and I can’t say heat never has been an issue. Since building that Narmon catastrophe I feel heat on any router I use in it, and I think a router needs all the air it can get, and those little bird houses don’t allow for enough of it.

Using my Triton routers freehand I have left the shields on, and feel it is a safety thing, and I get no heat feeling on either the 2 or 3 hp models. Same with my Bosch, and PC routers. All of the plastic is quick to remove for bit work, then they go back on. I’ve stood on a power cord or 3 edge routing, and that sudden stop can get fangers, and routers in proximities you wouldn’t normally want them in. If a bit of plastic keeps my finger safe, I’m all for it. BTW I now use a cord minder, think Fasstool overhead for ideas, no more stomping on cords for me. I’m pretty sure that is why they made it to begin with.

Back to your last question. I have dust collection on the fence, and I like to use the dust collection Triton has for the router itself. That get’s it top and bottom, and while nothing in dust collection is 100% it certainly doesn’t leave a mess. I’ve found since getting rid of Norms stinky door, my dust collection seems to have improved. I can only owe that to increased airflow, which was my point of removing the door, even if I did it with heat in mind.

-- Think safe, be safe

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lumbering_on

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#2 posted 09-24-2018 10:25 PM

I built this, with a few mods.

https://www.canadianwoodworking.com/plans-projects/ultimate-router-fence

From personal experience, the dust port is useless when you are using a router table as the port is designed to handle the dust when the router is directly over the work. When the router is recessed into a table, most of the dust is ejected upwards and away from the router. So, you really need some sort of dust collection above it.

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WoodenDreams

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#3 posted 09-24-2018 10:41 PM

I have 1 1/2” dust collection hose attached to my router below the table, and a 2 1/2” hose attached to my fence with no bird house at the fence. Most of the saw dust goes out the fence collection area. But without the collection below the table, I end up vacuuming the dust that under the table afterwards. I have not yet experienced over heating of the router bits with long router usage.

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Tony1212

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#4 posted 09-25-2018 01:50 PM

I have a fence with dust collection built in around the bit area. Works great for rabbets and edge shaping. Not so well for dadoes and other cuts that are not adjacent to the fence. Also having a “Norm style” router cabinet, most of that saw dust drops down into the cabinet.

I’ve been pondering using the built in shields for under table dust collection. Being in the midwest, I have a lot of overweight family members with sleep apnea that offer me used CPAP hoses for free. I’ve found that the rubber ends on those hoses fit perfectly into most hand tool dust ports with enough friction that they don’t easily fall out. Then I can use an adapter to connect the small CPAP hose to my shop vac based DC (2 1/2” hose).

As far as it getting hot, I noticed that it happens when I leave the door closed, but when it’s open, the router’s fine. You can watch this youtube video where I make frame and panel shed doors. I make the dadoes in the fram using a 1/2” bit on a router table. That’s a Triton TRA001 in my table.

I don’t have the DC hooked up in that video because there was no room for me, the camera and the shop vac.

-- Tony, SW Chicago Suburbs

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Bill_Steele

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#5 posted 09-25-2018 02:20 PM

I have the Triton MOF 001 in a router table. My router is suspended from a plate and I connect a Festool 27mm hose to the port on the router. I mainly use the vacuum hose to the router when I use router bits with a top bearing and no fence (e.g. pattern cutting). If I use a fence then I connect a hose to the fence and don’t worry about connecting to the router.

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Kirk650

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#6 posted 09-25-2018 02:57 PM

What Tony1212 said is exactly my situation also. Dust collection on the fence, and I hand vacuum the area under the router and behind the door. I suppose you could say that I have below the table dust collection, since it does remain behind the door till I vacuum.

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