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Any single rail table saw fence recommendations for a G0690?

by RichBolduc
posted 09-23-2018 06:21 PM


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ohtimberwolf

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#1 posted 09-23-2018 07:02 PM

Rich,
In my experience, and I have the same situation, the outfeed table creates no problem for me by being a short distance from the saw table. I would not sacrifice my T-2 for the difference. Just sayin. larry

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#2 posted 09-23-2018 07:40 PM

Thanks. When you say “short distance”, what are you considering short? I’d probably be 4-5” off

Rich


Rich,
In my experience, and I have the same situation, the outfeed table creates no problem for me by being a short distance from the saw table. I would not sacrifice my T-2 for the difference. Just sayin. larry

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#3 posted 09-23-2018 09:59 PM

Your out feed table should be below the fence, and few thousandths below saw top, so out feed top can be within couple of inches, without need to buy a new fence?

Suggest you use the bottom edge of the back rail support to help align and attach your out feed table.
Use a 2×3x1/8 piece of angle iron/aluminum mounted with 2 inch side on your out feed table edge. Overlap the two metal brackets and place a couple of matching holes in back fence rail and out feed rail, to attach with couple nuts/bolts. I installed rivet nuts in my back fence rail and can use jig/fixture star knobs with 5/16 bolt underneath each end to attach my out feed to back rail.
I added the angle iron to back of my contractor saw to improve fence accuracy, but here is what my outfeed connection looks like this:

The gap collects some dust tossed on top of saw, but it works really well.
YMMV

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#4 posted 09-23-2018 10:02 PM

I was just looking at a photo of the G0690 on the Grizzly web page and it looks like the rear rail is just a piece of 1-1/2 inch angle iron. The fence itself sticks out more than that but it would just ride over the top of the outfeed table and not touch it. It looks to me like the gap between the saw and outfeed tables wouldn’t have to be much more than the angle iron width. I have a different model saw but that is the way my outfeed table works.

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#5 posted 09-23-2018 10:04 PM

This is the issue with my current one

So this end of the shopfox fence would keep me about 7” off the table or 2 1/2” off the surface.

Rich

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#6 posted 09-23-2018 10:27 PM

Not sure why the other images aren’t showing… But this isn’t the stock fence from their site either…. It rides the rail and sits 6 1/2” off of the end of the table and the par that holds it on to the rail sits about 2 1/2” under the surface of the table. if I had the table sit a few thou off the table, the current fence wouldn’t work at all due to the way it’s held on.

This is the fence that’s on there I believe http://www.grizzly.com/products/Fence-w-Standard-Rails/W1410?gclid=CjwKCAjw85zdBRB6EiwAov3RipEH0GnvTsOTgGVr5n27H7G4mgMoMnrRtflXK2Q-9fxybrxbt2A8cRoCig8QAvD_BwE

Rich

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#7 posted 09-23-2018 11:50 PM

Rich, this short video may spark some new ideas for you. larry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g66UhNaxivo

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#8 posted 09-23-2018 11:56 PM

I have room for a 3’ x 4’ table behind it with storage, but even with her design the back side of the fence that is on there would interfere with the table.

Rich


Rich, this short video may spark some new ideas for you. larry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g66UhNaxivo

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#9 posted 09-24-2018 12:57 AM

Rich, suppose you put the slot that she cuts up higher in the part that fastens to the table, that would drop the top of the table extension and by making it like a dado extending it past the problem your fence has and contiued along the same idea from there on. It seems that should work. BUT, I’m not there and I cannot clearly see all that you can. Just trying to help. larry

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#10 posted 09-24-2018 04:41 AM

You have to have something to support the far end of the fence if you ever need to make a cut wider than the table saw wing.

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#11 posted 09-25-2018 09:58 AM

Sorry for the delay. Here are some better pictures to explain the issue. It’s that giant grey mount on the rear of the rail that’s causing this issue. Got an email from Grizzly too and they said that’s the only fence they have that will work with the current rails, so I’ll need new rails for any fence.

Rich

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#12 posted 09-25-2018 03:23 PM

I had a similar question a few weeks ago. I liked the VSC Tools fence idea a lot. I’ve been on a homemade tool kick so I followed Alan’s YouTube series of making the T-Square fence and rails and I’m making my own. I finished the t-square and rails last night. My extruded aluminum fence is supposed to be delivered today. I can’t give much feedback on the function, but I can say that it was a fun project and wasn’t very difficult.

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#13 posted 09-25-2018 03:52 PM

That is an interesting option as I really like the thought of metal fence with track abilities. If you don’t mind me asking, about home much is is costing to make your own?

Rich


I had a similar question a few weeks ago. I liked the VSC Tools fence idea a lot. I ve been on a homemade tool kick so I followed Alan s YouTube series of making the T-Square fence and rails and I m making my own. I finished the t-square and rails last night. My extruded aluminum fence is supposed to be delivered today. I can t give much feedback on the function, but I can say that it was a fun project and wasn t very difficult.

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#14 posted 09-26-2018 03:02 PM


That is an interesting option as I really like the thought of metal fence with track abilities. If you don t mind me asking, about home much is is costing to make your own?

Rich

- RichBolduc

Sure, no problem. I got most of the steel from the off-cuts section of my metal dealer and the fence through the 80/20 ebay store. I paid around $60 for the steel that went in to the rails and T-Square, around $50 for the extruded aluminum and the t-slot nuts, and probably $30 on misc hardware and other parts (socket cap screws, adhesive-backed measuring tape, etc.) Because the steel was per-pound, the rails were the most expensive part.

I don’t have the space for a full-length table, I went with 5’ in length for the 2”x3” 1/8” tubing, the 3” 1/4” angle iron off-cut happened to be 4’5”, which is perfect because the angle iron doesn’t need to be the full length of the square tube. The T-Square was made with scraps of 2” 3/16” angle iron, 3/8” and 1/8” bar stock, a spare cam and lever handle and HDPE plastic I had laying around.

I had to have a buddy help with the welds because I don’t have welding equipment. I’m inexperienced with metalworking but was able to do everything else fairly on my own fairly easily.

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#15 posted 09-26-2018 04:34 PM

Well, if you don’t want to spring for a different tube/rail/fence system ($$), you could just make your outfeed table with a lower “shelf” that’s 8” wide to accommodate for the back of that shop fox. So you’re table would be fairly level to the saw height, but the first 8” of the outfeed table would be recessed down 2” like a stair step and then mount up to your saw body. Then you’d have removeable 2” by 8” blocks that you could place in the groove for the outfeed piece to glide smoothly onto the table, but pop out to slide the fence around. Just an idea, it would be the cheapeast route and should work if you use at least 3/4” material.

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#16 posted 09-26-2018 08:56 PM

Thanks :) I wonder what I can get from work…..

What are you using for the lock down mechanism?

Rich


Sure, no problem. I got most of the steel from the off-cuts section of my metal dealer and the fence through the 80/20 ebay store. I paid around $60 for the steel that went in to the rails and T-Square, around $50 for the extruded aluminum and the t-slot nuts, and probably $30 on misc hardware and other parts (socket cap screws, adhesive-backed measuring tape, etc.) Because the steel was per-pound, the rails were the most expensive part.

I don t have the space for a full-length table, I went with 5 in length for the 2”x3” 1/8” tubing, the 3” 1/4” angle iron off-cut happened to be 4 5”, which is perfect because the angle iron doesn t need to be the full length of the square tube. The T-Square was made with scraps of 2” 3/16” angle iron, 3/8” and 1/8” bar stock, a spare cam and lever handle and HDPE plastic I had laying around.

I had to have a buddy help with the welds because I don t have welding equipment. I m inexperienced with metalworking but was able to do everything else fairly on my own fairly easily.

- MikeUT


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#17 posted 09-26-2018 08:56 PM

Not a bad idea… I’m not against buying a new rail if needed though..

Rich


Well, if you don t want to spring for a different tube/rail/fence system ($$), you could just make your outfeed table with a lower “shelf” that s 8” wide to accommodate for the back of that shop fox. So you re table would be fairly level to the saw height, but the first 8” of the outfeed table would be recessed down 2” like a stair step and then mount up to your saw body. Then you d have removeable 2” by 8” blocks that you could place in the groove for the outfeed piece to glide smoothly onto the table, but pop out to slide the fence around. Just an idea, it would be the cheapeast route and should work if you use at least 3/4” material.

- mathguy1981


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#18 posted 09-27-2018 03:55 PM

I used a CAM that I had in my odd and random parts bin. In the video series Alan makes his own. I think he used 3/4” steel and cut out a 1 1/4” slug w/ a holesaw without the pilot hole. Then he drilled the offset hole and welded a handle on. I don’t have a good photo of the mechanism on my phone but he goes over it in detail in this video series. He also made a separate series where he fabricates the rails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhZ5Mo9ma2U


Thanks :) I wonder what I can get from work…..

What are you using for the lock down mechanism?

Rich

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#19 posted 09-27-2018 05:31 PM



Hi all and thanks in advance. I m about to start an outfeed/assembly table for my G0690 and the the fence that s on there is a dual rail. Because of this and the way the fence sits, I won t be able to push the table right up to the the saw. Do any of you have recommendations for a fence that only rides on a single rail in the front for this saw? I was thinking maybe the Very Super Cool Tools fence, but i m open to suggestions. Thanks, Rich

- RichBolduc


I use the VSCT fence on my G0690 and really like it. You don’t need the back rail, which will allow your outfeed table to be flush with the saw.

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#20 posted 10-08-2018 04:55 PM

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#21 posted 10-08-2018 06:41 PM

An even easier way to make a cam is to saw off a 3/4” piece from a 1” steel bar. Drill the eccentric hole, and the hole for the lever arm (5/16” or 3/8”), and weld it in place.

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#22 posted 10-08-2018 06:58 PM

Have you called the Grizzly 800 number to talk to a Grizzly service rep.

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#23 posted 10-08-2018 07:29 PM

I emailed them. They were pretty useless and said I’d need a whole new rail and fence. I’d really like one with built in t-tracks. The only one with t-tracks they have their said was to light weight and designed for contractor saws Rich


Have you called the Grizzly 800 number to talk to a Grizzly service rep.

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