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Bandsaw issue...help!

by woodenwarrior
posted 09-15-2018 04:01 AM


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AlaskaGuy

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#1 posted 09-15-2018 04:14 AM

What does “eaten” mean? What kind of blades were they. Is this a new problem that you didn’t have before? Have you ask Laguna Tools for ideas? Good details will help you get good answers.

When I had a 14’’ band saw any blades over 1/2’’ didn’t seem to work as well as 1/2 and under.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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woodenwarrior

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#2 posted 09-15-2018 04:19 AM

By eaten I mean the blade comes off the wheel when making a very ordinary cut and works itself into the upper wheel compartment. My blade tension is good to go, my blades guides are set just behind the blade gullets and roughly .001 away from the blade. I’ve only had this problem with larger blades but the 14-12 should be able to handle them without issue.

-- Do or do not...there is no try - Master Yoda

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woodenwarrior

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#3 posted 09-15-2018 04:19 AM

Oh, and they were Timberwolf blades. I switched to a cheaper Starret blade hoping the different manufacturer might help. I’m trying to get some guidance before I wreck this blade as well.

-- Do or do not...there is no try - Master Yoda

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TheFridge

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#4 posted 09-15-2018 04:28 AM

Don’t worry about coplanar unless it rubs on something it’s not supposed to.

When you make a cut it should force it into the guides? I’m confused about how it is coming off.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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woodenwarrior

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#5 posted 09-15-2018 04:30 AM

I don’t know either. It happens very quickly, the blade jumps and gets hemmed up in the upper wheel compartment.

-- Do or do not...there is no try - Master Yoda

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Redoak49

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#6 posted 09-15-2018 11:03 AM

Of course, you cannot have a bandsaw thread without mentioning the Alex Snodgrass video. I do not have the link but should be easy to find and the best video for aligning bandsaw blades.

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Pixxture

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#7 posted 09-15-2018 12:05 PM

There is a tracking adjustment on the bandsaws, based on your projects i am sure you have adjusted it. However it may have some ‘play’ in it. Try moving the wheel ( like you would to test automotive ball joints) to see if there is some play. Just dont test it as hard as you would a ball joint.
Just my thought, based on the description

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AlaskaGuy

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#8 posted 09-15-2018 04:07 PM

Not that I have the answer but….is this a new problem or have you always had this problem? Is this a new saw or used one. Have you asked the seller of the saw what they might know about the problem?

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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lumbering_on

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#9 posted 09-15-2018 04:07 PM



Of course, you cannot have a bandsaw thread without mentioning the Alex Snodgrass video. I do not have the link but should be easy to find and the best video for aligning bandsaw blades.

- Redoak49

The Wood Whisper Channel has a new video he did for Marc, it’s worth a look as it’s really well done.

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lumbering_on

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#10 posted 09-15-2018 04:10 PM



Not that I have the answer but….is this a new problem or have you always had this problem? Is this a new saw or used one. Have you asked the seller of the saw what they might know about the problem?

- AlaskaGuy

I’ve seen a few people mention this around the internet, so it may be a known issue.

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Aj2

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#11 posted 09-15-2018 06:56 PM

My guess is the tires are rolling up and tossing the blade off the wheel. I had this problem once with my 14 pm bandsaw. It has the tires that are not glued down.
I kinda remember trying to use a .035 blade with too much tension

-- Aj

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AlaskaGuy

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#12 posted 09-15-2018 07:02 PM


My guess is the tires are rolling up and tossing the blade off the wheel. I had this problem once with my 14 pm bandsaw. It has the tires that are not glued down.
I kinda remember trying to use a .035 blade with too much tension

- Aj2

From what I just read on the internet I’d say there a good chance that could be the problem

It would be interesting to know if this is a new problem or a long on going problem but I guess he not willing to answer that question.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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woodenwarrior

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#13 posted 09-15-2018 07:57 PM

This is a new problem, the bandsaw is only about 1 1/2 years old. I’ve inspected the tires and there’s no issue.

-- Do or do not...there is no try - Master Yoda

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fly2low

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#14 posted 09-16-2018 04:37 AM

Have you talked to Laguna. I have found them very helpful – once they got done laughing at my predicament. I deserved it.

-- Rich Gig Harbor, WA

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teejk02

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#15 posted 09-16-2018 02:09 PM

Just a thought…on the Delta’s there seems to be tendency for the lower pulley to loosen and start walking off the shaft (your co-planar question).

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Lazyman

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#16 posted 09-16-2018 02:49 PM

+1 on the Band Saw Clinic with Alex Snodgrass on YouTube. Alignment on the blade gullet at the crown of the wheel (rather than blade center at crown) was a game changer and so far I have not seen a single manufacturer who follows his alignment recommendation but it simply works. I suspect that may cause the tires to have to be replaced more often but when I switched to aligning the gullet at the crown, I immediately got smoother, straighter cuts when resawing boards and milling large logs.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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fuigb

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#17 posted 09-16-2018 08:25 PM

Tires are shot. I have a Jet 14” and had a problem with the blade staying on the wheels and by observing the start-up with the upper and lower doors held open I noted that the tires were flopping off. Saw was only a year or two old at the time. New tires solved the problem.

-- - Crud. Go tell your mother that I need a Band-aid.

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