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anti fatique gloves

by Knockonit
posted 09-10-2018 12:54 AM


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000

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#1 posted 09-10-2018 01:03 AM

”first hand knowledge”
pun intended?

Lower your hand on the chisel and it will lesson the number of repetitive blows. :)

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Knockonit

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#2 posted 09-10-2018 01:11 AM

yep, i;’ve tried lots of new holds, am even learning to use my off hand some, i actually close to being able to use my off hand well. I just forget sometimes and end up with the issue for a few days.
thanks i’ll keep trying ways of mitigating the repetitive motions.
Rj

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therealSteveN

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#3 posted 09-10-2018 03:11 AM

Is the issue numbness and tingling?????

If it is it may be your neck, as you are looking down, and the nerves running to your hands, come right from your brain, down your spine, across to your shoulders, and down each arm, and holding your neck down gets the nerves pinched.

Next time you notice it, swivel your head to the left 5 times, and then to the right 5 times. Go fully around on each turn. See if your hands come back to normal.

Free to do, doesn’t hurt anything to try, and if it works will save you from buying some gloves that likely won’t help even if it is a hand issue.

Plus if this is a new thing, see your family Doc, and let him/her decide if it needs more looking into.

-- Think safe, be safe

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lumbering_on

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#4 posted 09-10-2018 03:40 AM

Have you had a doctor examine it? You likely have a repetitive strain injury, and it’s better to get professional help for it. I learned the hard way that the pain is your body’s way of trying to get you to stop punishing it. It ended up taking many times longer to heal than if I had listened to my body.

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#5 posted 09-10-2018 04:34 AM


Have you had a doctor examine it? You likely have a repetitive strain injury, and it s better to get professional help for it. I learned the hard way that the pain is your body s way of trying to get you to stop punishing it. It ended up taking many times longer to heal than if I had listened to my body.

- lumberingon

I agree with Lumberingon & Gloves are usually a No No in a workshop I never use them. BUT! You’ve got a Problem and you should see a Doctor about it. Is Your Wrist Okay on the same hand?

Regards: Rick S.

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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#6 posted 09-10-2018 10:57 AM

I had a similar problem using a hammer and my hands and wrists just ached so badly afterwards. I saw a very good hand orthopedic doctor and found out that both wrists were worn out. I had surgery on both wrists to rebuild them and much better.

My advice is to see an orthopedic doctor and find out what is wrong. Probably better to get help now rather than wait.

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Knockonit

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#7 posted 09-10-2018 12:49 PM

have already done all the exhaustive tests and dr. visits, his recommendation, to use gloves and see outcome before going on to other measures.
thanks

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#8 posted 09-10-2018 12:50 PM

Another thing that can help with wrist issues is sleeping with a wrist brace on. The brace will ensure that your wrist stays in a neutral position, allowing it to recover better than it would normally.

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#9 posted 09-10-2018 01:08 PM

So, what did the doctor say was wrong with your wrists? I think that knowing that would help the people responding.

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#10 posted 09-10-2018 03:50 PM

Could be carpal tunnel syndrome https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/carpal-tunnel-syndrome/. See an orthopedist.

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Knockonit

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#11 posted 09-10-2018 06:16 PM

its not carpel tunnel, its my hands and fingers, says is much like a life long cello players get a hook finger,
i’m working on using off hand more, they say possible cut and slash, but i’m a believer of alternate avenues rather than find out after the slash, that anotehr non invasive way was available.

the pair of gloves i have i feel may be helping, but suspect my using off hand more is the actual cause of relief.
thanks to all for comments.

golden years are becoming tarnished somewhat. lol
Rj in az

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#12 posted 09-10-2018 07:03 PM

Meet Aurther.
He creeps in and out.
Aches and pains in my thumb every once in a while and in my big toe. Usually last a day or 2, comes about once every week or 2.

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#13 posted 09-10-2018 07:05 PM

Somehow, I never imagined swinging a hammer as being the same as playing a cello. ;)

If you doctor has examine you and found no other issues, then you may want to read this quick article.
https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/diseases/hypothen.html

Best of luck.

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#14 posted 09-10-2018 07:07 PM

Did the doc mention any exercises you could do? If you have a muscular imbalance, strengthening the relatively weaker muscles in the area might help.

For example, putting a rubber band or two around the outside of your fingertips and slowly opening and closing can strengthen the relatively underused muscles that open your hand.

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Knockonit

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#15 posted 09-10-2018 07:21 PM

yep, as for the resemblance to cello, its the holding of a hammer, the cellist tends to wrap his hand around the ’’neck’’ for lack of better word, as i do not know parts of unit, but the repetitive use of finders ect. and gripping hard and well thats the way it was told to me.

and yes for the exercises, tends to help some, i just think i’m gonna become left handed, joint the odd balls of the world, hehehehe, a hit on the lefties.

I just dont wanna jump in and get cut, have a few friends who have had great luck, and ugly luck with the wrist and hand ops.
gonna go every route i can till….....................................

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#16 posted 09-10-2018 09:33 PM

I like the gel fingerless gloves (Bicycling gloves) for working with the palm sanders, and rasping to shape legs with a Shinto rasp.

For me it is abrasion resistance, and numbness after the vibration from sanding that gets me.

-- “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

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#17 posted 09-11-2018 12:11 AM

I use anti vibration gloves in the shop when hammering or using palm sanders. The vibrations from those tools give me numbness. I’m sure using large grinder; power hammers and swinging hammers 6+ hours a day had nothing to do with it. It makes a drastic difference wearing the gloves just don’t wear them on machinery that can get you hurt.

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#18 posted 09-11-2018 04:16 AM



have already done all the exhaustive tests and dr. visits, his recommendation, to use gloves and see outcome before going on to other measures.
thanks

- Knockonit

For this reason I’ll re-suggest the rolling your neck if it wasn’t a surgical problem, Like I said, it does nothing you don’t already do from time to time (so it won’t injure you), costs nothing, and gives instant feedback. If your problem is instantly gone, you can self medicate by doing a simple stretching exercise before engaging in shop work.

If you worked for a Japanese company you would be doing these before the start of your shift every day, their incidence of ortho injuries is well noted, as to be some of the lowest in the world.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#19 posted 09-11-2018 04:27 AM

TESTING My PULSE Setting. For some reason everything that shows “Unwatch” for Me (Which means you are watching it) is NOT registering in “Pulse”. Anyone else having a problem with “PULSE”?

Thank You.

Rick S.

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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#20 posted 09-11-2018 08:07 PM

Pulse Still Not Working. (TEST HERE)

Rick S.

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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#21 posted 09-15-2018 11:36 PM

Test for “My Pulse”. Sorry to keep intruding.

Rick S.

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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#22 posted 09-16-2018 06:57 PM

Many people will tell you (and I’m not strongly arguing against those individuals) that wearing gloves around power tools are a big hazard. However, so are sharp pointed and spinning things. The bottom line is, we are to be everso vigilant with AND without gloves.

Having said that ^^^
As a chiropractor, I do what I can to protect my hands in the shop and working around the house. I frequently use Majestic Cut-Less (I prefer their model 3437) to protect my hands from incidental cuts, scrapes, and splinters. I also use them when sanding, both with ROS and hand sanding. Not sure if they will be a huge help for you, but I keep them on hand (oh yes, pun intended, LOL).

I have read the ‘see your doc’ recommendations and that you have been following their recommendations. Another recommendation, if you haven’t already done so, consult with an Active Release Technique practitioner (http://www.activerelease.com/ select “Find a Provider”). Their approach to repetitive stress injuries, even old injuries, will be great for your hand/wrist/arms. And since many of them are chiropractors, you can also get your neck checked as well. therealSteveN is correct, many issues of pain, numbness, and tingling in the hands/arms are related to nerve impingement in the neck area.
Hope this helps. Keep us posted.

-- Rick - I know I am not perfect, but I will keep pressing on toward the goal of becoming all I am called to be.

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#23 posted 09-16-2018 07:22 PM

Cracknpop. I had seen the name but without the reference to being a Chiropractor I thought you were an aspiring rap artist. Sorry for being so dense. For a Chiropractor I like it.

Long ago I had the same symptomology as the OP did, and that was my fix. Since, and also while being an occupational health RN I had a LOT of folks with intermittent pains, numbness, and tingling in their hands, lower arms, and all but a few found simply rolling their neck was the fix. So I know it’s a very common problem. I’ve followed up with a lot of folks who I did refer on, and it would seem at least in my experience a true operable neck problem isn’t always a component. Happens to healthy folks I guess is the best way to say it.

Anyhow thanks for pointing out I may not always be a quack.

Now on the gloves around those spinny tools I’ll disagree because anything you can’t feel can hurt you because you are cutting off the early warning system God gave us all by covering those nerve endings we feel trouble with. If your hand is actually in the TS blade it’s gonna cut your hand bare, or covered just the same. Plus the material can get snagged and drag your hand into the cutters, which unfortunately I have taken care of people in the ER where I worked for 25+ years who sustained injury because of their gloves.

Sleeves rolled up completely, or better short sleeves, and no gloves will always be my recommendation when using the sharp cutters. Now to handle it, or move wood. especially when in a rough state I always wear my gloves, but they are heavy leather, and probably not lightweight, or tight fitting as these “anti vibration” gloves would be.

Be well, and thanks for weighing in.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#24 posted 09-16-2018 09:37 PM



Now on the gloves around those spinny tools I ll disagree…
- therealSteveN

therealSteveN, we are not in disagreement. That is why I started with my comment about “not arguing against” the recommendations of not wearing gloves.

BTW, my nickname came from my father-in-law. He has called me ‘Chief Cracknpop’ for over 30 years.
Have a blessed week.

-- Rick - I know I am not perfect, but I will keep pressing on toward the goal of becoming all I am called to be.

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#25 posted 09-17-2018 12:33 AM

Just so I feel like I’ve contributed to this Post. No. I do not agree with the use of gloves in the Shop and the Table Saw ain’t gonna know the difference.

If you have to wear them for Medical Reasons that’s a different game.

Apparently Lumberjocks (The Company) thinks it’s okay to do so …LOL…

Regards: Rick S.

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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#26 posted 09-17-2018 02:03 AM


Now on the gloves around those spinny tools I ll disagree…
- therealSteveN

therealSteveN, we are not in disagreement. That is why I started with my comment about “not arguing against” the recommendations of not wearing gloves.

- cracknpop

I glance when I should read, sorry..

-- Think safe, be safe

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#27 posted 09-18-2018 01:59 AM

well the gloves are intended for repetitive items, sanding, beating a chisel ect.
I’ve been around machinery my whole life, and have a pretty good sense of what, who and where, and well one of my daughters came for a visit, and had some oil derived from ganja weed, and she lathered my aching hand up, and wow, boy howdy, pain was diminished, not gone, but palatable,

i just came in from putting a full set of brakes on one of the work trucks, impact wrench, ouch boy howdy, but had to do it, slung some the bdc or something like that oil on and well, lets just say not as miserable as i was a bit ago.

dr. has some stuff to try out, headed their tomorrow to check it out, here hoping the medical miracle boys and girls have a solution, cause i’m not gonna stop doing what i do, and sure hate to have to live with the toothache type pain,

happy monday
its cooling off here in Az, only 104 today, headed down to the 90’s by end of week, i’m ready

thanks to all for information and ideas of resolution, knowledge as we all know is the end to problems

Rj in Az.

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#28 posted 09-18-2018 04:06 AM

RJ,

You might want to look into Acupunture, it works for a lot of folks. Yoga techniques for sure, especially the stretching! And I hear there are continuing ed. courses on ‘hand yoga’! They both consentrate on all the body connections, head to toe. I benefit from both.

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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