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Smooth Countersunk Drilling

by Grumpy
posted 08-27-2018 09:41 PM


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ralbuck

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#1 posted 08-27-2018 10:07 PM

Looks like it will work well; THANKS from many of us!

-- Wood rescue is good for the environment and me! just rjR

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Firewood

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#2 posted 08-27-2018 10:30 PM

Nice. Makes sense when you think about it.

-- Mike - Waukesha, WI

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woodworm4303

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#3 posted 08-27-2018 10:37 PM

OKAY! I made the COUNTERSINK first THEN the pilot hole. Its not looking like the one you are showing…

-- Rich

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fivecodys

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#4 posted 08-27-2018 10:43 PM



OKAY! I made the COUNTERSINK first THEN the pilot hole. Its not looking like the one you are showing…

- woodworm4303

You have to drill it from the other side of the board! ;)

-- When you leave your shop for the night, make sure you can always count to 10.

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woodworm4303

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#5 posted 08-27-2018 10:47 PM

OKAY I DID! NOW WHAT!

OKAY! I made the COUNTERSINK first THEN the pilot hole. Its not looking like the one you are showing…

- woodworm4303

You have to drill it from the other side of the board! ;)

- fivecodys


-- Rich

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pottz

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#6 posted 08-27-2018 11:23 PM



OKAY I DID! NOW WHAT!

OKAY! I made the COUNTERSINK first THEN the pilot hole. Its not looking like the one you are showing…

- woodworm4303

You have to drill it from the other side of the board! ;)

- fivecodys

- woodworm4303


-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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pottz

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#7 posted 08-27-2018 11:25 PM

did you have a few drinks first?.i find that always helps finding the hole!.i l like your sense of humor worm,welcome to lumber jocls.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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Grumpy

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#8 posted 08-28-2018 12:18 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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doubleDD

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#9 posted 08-28-2018 12:54 AM

Tony, this will be more than welcome in my shop. I always have a difference in countersink holes. If this works, I’ll owe you a beer. (next time I’m in Australia)

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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Gene Howe

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#10 posted 08-28-2018 01:23 AM

Another trick: drill the hole and then run the countersink bacwards.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Woodknack

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#11 posted 08-28-2018 01:28 AM

Another trick, use a high quality sharp bit and hold it steady.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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TheFridge

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#12 posted 08-28-2018 02:08 AM

The cheap Chinese ones with a hundred bits included for 8$ sucks.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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robscastle

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#13 posted 08-28-2018 02:27 AM

Another ” trick” sorry Gene and Rick
And the correct way to do it! Use the right bloody tool in the first place!
its a countersink with a drill bit.

why do the job twice then try to use your guide dog to help you find the original hole.

Rich … sell all your tools before you kill yourself. Stick with your guide dog !!
BTW I couldnt see where the guillotine was on the gate.

Grumpy: Try to avoid reading Americian rubbish from 2009 era they still havent worked out which side of the road to drive on yet!

DD: send me a whole case I need it after reading this post, promise I will share it with Grumpy as we need to have a long talk!

-- Regards Rob

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Woodknack

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#14 posted 08-28-2018 02:58 AM

I used to swear by the Dewalts countersink drill bits but they switched manufacturers and now wobble like crazy. I have a Stern countersink for the rare occasion the screw will be visible.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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robscastle

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#15 posted 08-28-2018 03:09 AM

I know the problem well!
Check out this engineering excellence!

Its the chuck end of a countersink …just a little off center!

I will go research your Stern’s product.

-- Regards Rob

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Dark_Lightning

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#16 posted 08-28-2018 03:55 AM

I’d venture to say that a lot of setup time went into making that nice countersink (clamping, new bit, etc.). I will also say that once the screw head covers the roughness, who is going to know? Once the work is restrained properly, using a spotting drill bit will pretty much make it, as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drill_bit

-- Steven.......Random Orbital Nailer

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Woodknack

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#17 posted 08-28-2018 04:31 AM

I reported and blocked the spammer.

Lots of people say Snappy countersink drills are good quality and they are made in the USA. I bought an FTG which looks identical to the Dewalt but haven’t tried it yet. Amana makes a carbide countersink drill bit that gets good reviews but are a tad pricey at $25, might be worth it though.

The Stern countersink is one of these:

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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crowie

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#18 posted 08-28-2018 11:20 AM

Tony, The countering tip is great thank you…
The only issues I’ve had is with older bits that are starting to loose there edge and especially in softwoods…

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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Jim Jakosh

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#19 posted 08-28-2018 12:39 PM

I have found that for any material, an odd number of flutes cuts cleaner. I typically use1 flute bits and they work best in the drill press.The ones with the hole will work good with a hand drill but the open 1 flute ones can walk off center of the hole by hand.

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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Richard Lee

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#20 posted 08-28-2018 01:10 PM

http://www.maford.com/products/index.aspx?series=67

Ive always had good luck with this style and brand, no need to Sink first.

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Grumpy

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#21 posted 08-28-2018 11:05 PM

Some great feedback there Jocks.
Dave you are on for that beer.
Gene, I can see your method would work.
Rob, without being rude, I will please myself what I read. I put these posts in to help others, not for any other reason. Not everybody has a full set of tools.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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fivecodys

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#22 posted 08-28-2018 11:35 PM



OKAY I DID! NOW WHAT!

OKAY! I made the COUNTERSINK first THEN the pilot hole. Its not looking like the one you are showing…

- woodworm4303

You have to drill it from the other side of the board! ;)

- fivecodys

- woodworm4303

Drill once, measure twice?.....no…no…....Drill twice…....plug once?......

This reminds me of the box of nails I just bought. I had to take them back because almost half of them had the heads on the wrong end. What has happened to quality control in this country! :)

-- When you leave your shop for the night, make sure you can always count to 10.

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BobHall

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#23 posted 08-28-2018 11:38 PM

I’ve got the Snappy set and like them a lot. I’ve also had good luck with Grumpy’s method.
As always, sharper tools are critical to success.

-- Bob "jack of all trades, master of none"

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Richard

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#24 posted 08-30-2018 03:48 AM

I’ve had a set of these for many years. Bought them at Lee Valley in Toronto. They are made In The USA

I think they are the proper tool for the Job. You can also replace the Drill Bit for any of them if it gets dull.

Rick S.

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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AlaskaGuy

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#25 posted 08-30-2018 05:49 AM

The real trick is to use a single flute counter sink bit.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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