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The NEW Rough Cut with Fine Woodworking TV series is online

by Woodknack
posted 04-09-2018 07:49 PM


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#1 posted 04-09-2018 09:15 PM

Thanks. I just watched the episode where he built a Shaker table.

One question: he used screws to attach the top which was made up of two boards glued together. With screws holding the top all around its perimeter would it be unable to expand and shrink and eventually just crack?

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#2 posted 04-09-2018 09:25 PM

It’s a pretty narrow table, so probably not a big deal compared to a 40” wide dining table. He may have drilled oversized holes and they just didn’t mention it.

The show looks good with great video work too.

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#3 posted 04-09-2018 09:30 PM

I saw an article by Christian Becksvoort
where he glued a solid pine bottom into
a 12” wide box. You could look it up. He’s
an authority on shaker stuff and has looked
at a lot of antiques so he might have a good
idea where you really have to pay attention
to wood movement.

Theoretically most woods can move up to
1/4” seasonally over 12” width, but in climate
controlled homes I’m not sure if the humidity
fluctuations are enough to make it move that
much.

You can get these pan head screws that are
useful for fronts on drawer boxes because
the hole can be drilled up to about 5/16” and
the shank can move around in the hole. Adding
washers and drilling a larger hole can make the
adjustment range even greater. I’ve never
found making elongated holes to be anything
but a hassle. Sometimes it must be done but
I try to do it another way if I can.

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#4 posted 04-09-2018 09:57 PM

Looks pretty good. Do you know if these are going to be on TV?

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#5 posted 04-09-2018 10:07 PM

Looks good. I like his style, and the hybrid approach. The irony of replacing One T Mac with T Mc is inescapable. Is that recorded in the same studio? Is that why Tommy moved out?

The SCM table saw and Felder bandsaw are definitely not hobby tools, but he demonstrates using them in a familiar way: sled on the slider and shop made tennon and taper jigs. I cringed a little when he free handed the 45s on the tennons.

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#6 posted 04-09-2018 10:14 PM

wrenchhead, it’s broadcast early saturday morning on public television in my neck of the woods.

Woodknack, have you heard why he was fired? I know I found his shows lacked the detail of New Yankee Workshop, but comparing anyone to Norm is not fair. I like a little bit of a road trip from time to time, to get some perspective on the project, but maybe Tommy over did it.

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#7 posted 04-09-2018 10:58 PM

It’s not airing here yet but check your local PBS station.

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#8 posted 04-10-2018 02:55 AM

Thanks for the info, will follow up.

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#9 posted 04-10-2018 07:13 PM

Hopefully this is readable. This forum uses a lot of compression.

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#10 posted 04-16-2018 08:16 PM

YES!!

I thought he QUIT… not Fired…

I found the New Season 8 in my Tablo system and they were Recorded; 1st 2 episodes…

The new guy isn’t too bad… I like him…

I like their project choices… so far…

Looks like Fine Woodworking is controlling the replays… and they’re not on YouTube… :(

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#11 posted 04-16-2018 09:03 PM

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#12 posted 04-17-2018 10:26 PM



Tom Mclaughlin does nice work. Second episode is out:
http://www.finewoodworking.com/rough-cut/episode/bow-front-cabinet-ash

- Woodknack

Yes, I’ve seen it… NICE COOL project… has a few curves to it… to make it interesting…

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#13 posted 04-18-2018 03:06 AM



Tom Mclaughlin does nice work. Second episode is out:
http://www.finewoodworking.com/rough-cut/episode/bow-front-cabinet-ash

- Woodknack

Great… now I need to buy a vacuum bag…

-- The problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. – George Bernard Shaw

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#14 posted 04-18-2018 03:21 AM


Most of you know that Tommy MacDonald was fired from Rough Cut and Tom McLaughlin was hired as his replacement. The first episode of the new season is online. The road trips at the beginning are gone (thankfully). I expected there to be more focus on hand tools but the very first tool used is a benchtop mortiser followed by a tablesaw. Sound quality is excellent, lighting and camera angles are excellent, video resolution is low. I like that he jumps right into the project without spending 1/3 the episode milling stock or explaining safety. New sponsors include SCM and Felder.

Fine Woodworking has become a partner so of course the first project is a Shaker table.
http://www.finewoodworking.com/rough-cut/episode/shaker-inspired-hall-table-801

- Woodknack
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Where is the source that say Tommy Mac was fired?

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#15 posted 04-18-2018 03:59 AM


Where is the source that say Tommy Mac was fired?

- AlaskaGuy

Yeah, I’ve searched around and haven’t found anything definitive that says he was fired. Sounds more like just a parting of ways.

The first new Rough Cut didn’t really impress me. The curved front cabinet was pretty impressive though. I’m still put off by those tools like that Felder saw that I’ll never own.

I’m not a huge fan of the host either, but I wasn’t a Tommy Mac fan either. The old Woodworks show with David Marks was more my style.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#16 posted 04-18-2018 04:29 AM

Episode 3 is out NOW!

A Sunburst side table – veneered!

Edit:

OOPS… It’s just a Short Preview… Full episode will be out 4-21-18…

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#17 posted 04-18-2018 05:41 AM

Let me rephrase, he left the show unwillingly. I would call it fired but you call it what you want. He wasn’t allowed to give any details, NDA, but it was clear from the emotional videos he released right after that it wasn’t something he wanted.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#18 posted 04-18-2018 06:09 AM


Let me rephrase, he left the show unwillingly. I would call it fired but you call it what you want. He wasn t allowed to give any details, NDA, but it was clear from the emotional videos he released right after that it wasn t something he wanted.

- Woodknack

Where does one find that video?

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#19 posted 04-18-2018 09:16 AM

I guess I’m curious about the Felder. He does not showcase it in episode 1, but of course he uses it and they are a sponsor. I remember Norm’s first episodes of NYWS. He used a Shopsmith with the logo plates covered with tape because they could not come to terms on a sponsorship. Norm did some nice projects with his Shopsmith and a few other tools in those early episodes.

Also very curious about Tommy Mac. Remember Bob Vila on This Old House? He got too big for his britches and then poof gone. Then Steve Thomas. Same story. Russ Morash hired Kevin Oconnor to be host after TOH did a project at his home. No TV or remodeling experience at all.

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#20 posted 04-18-2018 03:20 PM

Felder and SCM were listed as sponsors on the first video.

Where does one find that video?
- AlaskaGuy

He posts on Facebook and Instagram. If you are trying to find “a” video that explains everything, I don’t believe there is one. What little was said, was said on various social media, usually in response to questions. There were videos where at times he was emotional, seemingly bitter, about what happened. He made it clear that he was not allowed to give any details but people kept asking questions and sometimes he would respond with how he felt about things. But it’s neither here nor there for the new show.

As for the new Rough Cut, it’s good. No more dumb road trips, no milling stock, they jump right into making a piece of furniture. I hope they keep special guests to a minimum.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#21 posted 04-18-2018 03:37 PM

As for the new Rough Cut, it s good. No more dumb road trips, no milling stock, they jump right into making a piece of furniture. I hope they keep special guests to a minimum.

- Woodknack

Agree. Funny though I seem to remember Tom Mclaughlin was a frequent guest on T-Mac’s show.

-- The problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. – George Bernard Shaw

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#22 posted 04-19-2018 12:43 PM

So Tommy Mac being fired is based on rumor, innuendo and facebook? More fake news?

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#23 posted 04-19-2018 01:55 PM


So Tommy Mac being fired is based on rumor, innuendo and facebook? More fake news?

- laterthanuthink

It’s based on words from his own mouth. But I’ll remove the reference since it’s a lightening rod for drama.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#24 posted 04-19-2018 05:44 PM


So Tommy Mac being fired is based on rumor, innuendo and facebook? More fake news?

- laterthanuthink

It s based on words from his own mouth. But I ll remove the reference since it s a lightening rod for drama.

- Woodknack

I would like to see a LINK where he talks about this “in his own words”... I listened to some comments from him, which were hard to hear (poor audio) where it sounded like They wanted all kinds of other things from him that he did not agree with…

Where is a Link to his words? Please… Thank you… Let His words settle this… OK?

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#25 posted 04-19-2018 06:49 PM


Where is a Link to his words? Please… Thank you… Let His words settle this… OK?
- Joe Lyddon

Check FB & IG around mid-April last year. If I were him I would have deleted the videos but they might still be up. And here is an old thread about it.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#26 posted 05-02-2018 06:47 PM

Episode 3, Sunburst table, is up. I haven’t watched it yet because the low resolution gives me a headache.
http://www.finewoodworking.com/rough-cut/episode/sunburst-veneer-side-table-803

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#27 posted 05-02-2018 06:52 PM

Also Tommy MacDonald posted about suing WGBH but I don’t know how to link to a facebook post.
https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/

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#28 posted 05-02-2018 07:06 PM


Also Tommy MacDonald posted about suing WGBH but I don t know how to link to a facebook post.
https://www.facebook.com/thomas.j.macdonald/

- Woodknack

I guess it’ll all come down to how the contract was worded. Just because he owned that for years before the PBS show doesn’t mean he gets to keep it if the contract says it goes to WGBH.

That said, I hope he wins. PBS makes me nauseous with their money grubbing ways, taking money from donors, tax payers and advertisers and putting it in producer’s pockets. Russ Morash and The New Yankee Workshop and Victory Garden are a perfect example.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#29 posted 06-04-2018 04:44 PM

I stopped watching the new show because the web version is over compressed making it blurry and the low resolution doesn’t help. I left a message with FW but no response. Still no word on when the show might be our local PBS affiliate. FW stopped promoting it on Instagram. TM has been posting his old pre-tv Rough Cut episodes.

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#30 posted 06-25-2018 06:56 AM

Tommy Mac’s lawsuit has gone to arbitration, so they are looking for a solution outside court.

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/24289382/MacDonald_et_al_v_WGBH_Educational_Foundation_et_al

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#31 posted 06-25-2018 04:16 PM

Tommy Mac’s contract was not renewed. I believe his complaint is currently in arbitration.

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#32 posted 06-25-2018 05:39 PM

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#33 posted 06-25-2018 05:42 PM



Admin Note: I removed several posts derailing this discussion. Further violations of our rules will result in accounts being locked, permanently. http://lumberjocks.com/CricketW/blog/112897

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#34 posted 07-23-2018 06:07 AM

A good idea would be to have plans available like Norm did on New Yankee Workshop.

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#35 posted 08-02-2018 04:34 AM

I stopped watching the new show because the web version is over compressed making it blurry and the low resolution doesn t help. I left a message with FW but no response. Still no word on when the show might be our local PBS affiliate. FW stopped promoting it on Instagram. TM has been posting his old pre-tv Rough Cut episodes.

- Woodknack

can you provide me with a link to the web version? I can’t find it. Id like to personally compare the finewoodworking.com pay site to the free web version you are talking about. the video behind finewoodworking’s paywall is crystal clear..

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#36 posted 08-02-2018 04:42 AM

Link is in the first post ScottKaye. TV version has the same soft picture.

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#37 posted 08-02-2018 04:45 AM

i was looking on youtube cuz i thought you said it was there!

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#38 posted 08-02-2018 04:45 AM

what are you watching the show on? what kind of internet? If you are watching thru any kind of Cell service most of the carries only let you stream at 480 or 720 these days.

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#39 posted 08-02-2018 04:51 AM

yes, it is softer than what I watch. the resolution is 960×540 in the window version and if you expand it becomes 12870×720. What I see behind the paywall as a member is 1920×1080 which is crystal clear.

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#40 posted 08-02-2018 05:02 AM



yes, it is softer than what I watch. the resolution is 960×540 in the window version and if you expand it becomes 12870×720. What I see behind the paywall as a member is 1920×1080 which is crystal clear.

- ScottKaye

They only recently started airing it on PBS here, 2 episodes so far, and it’s poor quality just like the free web version. I wish they would stop those and air the high quality versions. I like the show but it’s unpleasant to watch.

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#41 posted 08-02-2018 05:26 AM


yes, it is softer than what I watch. the resolution is 960×540 in the window version and if you expand it becomes 12870×720. What I see behind the paywall as a member is 1920×1080 which is crystal clear.

- ScottKaye

They only recently started airing it on PBS here, 2 episodes so far, and it s poor quality just like the free web version. I wish they would stop those and air the high quality versions. I like the show but it s unpleasant to watch.

- Woodknack

I see most of the shows on PBS station Empire Network, KVCR-DT… and once in awhile on the Create channel.
From San Bernardino, CA Channels: 24.1 and 24.4 respectively.

Both being very good quality; HiDef.

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#42 posted 01-08-2019 04:36 AM



Hey! This is fantastic. I am a budding designer and I would love to watch this show. I was busy watching series by Andy Yeatman that I got to know about at http://licensingmagazine.com/2017/10/26/mipcom-scouting-of-new-licensing-successes/?lang=en and therefore, I never got to know about this. Anyways, I was very sad because the shows were over but now I am glad that I found this here.

- Chaudo_1

Your Link was NOT related to woodworking at all… Why?
Didn’t fool me… SPAM… Big Time!

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#43 posted 01-08-2019 05:04 AM


Hey! This is fantastic. I am a budding designer and I would love to watch this show. I was busy watching series by Andy Yeatman that I got to know about at http://licensingmagazine.com/2017/10/26/mipcom-scouting-of-new-licensing-successes/?lang=en and therefore, I never got to know about this. Anyways, I was very sad because the shows were over but now I am glad that I found this here.

- Chaudo_1

Your Link was NOT related to woodworking at all… Why?
Didn t fool me… SPAM… Big Time!

- Joe Lyddon


Cricket has asked many many times for us not to respond to spam and just flag it. For what ever reason she says it makes her job harder when people respond.

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#44 posted 01-08-2019 05:08 AM


Hey! This is fantastic. I am a budding designer and I would love to watch this show. I was busy watching series by Andy Yeatman that I got to know about at http://licensingmagazine.com/2017/10/26/mipcom-scouting-of-new-licensing-successes/?lang=en and therefore, I never got to know about this. Anyways, I was very sad because the shows were over but now I am glad that I found this here.

- Chaudo_1

Your Link was NOT related to woodworking at all… Why?
Didn t fool me… SPAM… Big Time!

- Joe Lyddon

Cricket has asked many many times for us not to respond to spam and just flag it. For what ever reason she says it makes her job harder when people respond.

- AlaskaGuy

OOPS… I forgot… Perhaps you shoulda PM’d instead of making it worse? (??) LOL No Problem… Sorry….

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#45 posted 01-20-2019 02:59 PM

I’m pretty disgusted with WGBH/PBS and Fine Woodworking for being part of this ripoff of something Tommy Mac created. If they had an issue finding common ground with T-Mac, fine. That happens. Make another show to their liking and move on BUT DO NOT use the name Rough Cut in the title or description. Seems to me WGBH/PBS are doing the same thing we all complain about when a name brand is bought out by a larger company, keeping the name but cutting corners on the quality. IMO – that’s false advertising. If it’s not Rough Cut w/ Tommy Mac, then call it “Fine Woodworking with Tom Mc”

Didn’t like the new show, BTW.

Sad that WGBH/PBS has stooped this low. First time in 30+ yrs I’m considering not donating because of this stunt.

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#46 posted 01-20-2019 05:48 PM

I only watched half the season. Tom McLaughlin appears to be a fine woodworker but he doesn’t have the personality for video, some of the projects weren’t interesting, others were poorly edited, and FW cheaped out doing the filming and editing in house by an amateur. I don’t think the problem with this show was/is Tommy or Tom. It’s too bad Roy lost his funding.

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#47 posted 01-21-2019 02:11 AM



I m pretty disgusted with WGBH/PBS and Fine Woodworking for being part of this ripoff of something Tommy Mac created. If they had an issue finding common ground with T-Mac, fine. That happens. Make another show to their liking and move on BUT DO NOT use the name Rough Cut in the title or description. Seems to me WGBH/PBS are doing the same thing we all complain about when a name brand is bought out by a larger company, keeping the name but cutting corners on the quality. IMO – that s false advertising. If it s not Rough Cut w/ Tommy Mac, then call it “Fine Woodworking with Tom Mc”

Didn t like the new show, BTW.

Sad that WGBH/PBS has stooped this low. First time in 30+ yrs I m considering not donating because of this stunt.

- Bunchgrass

It’s really been bad without a show from them (FWW)...
Who’s fault is it? FWW or PBS?!

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#48 posted 01-22-2019 02:47 AM

I have been on this woodworking forum for many years now and have contributed to it as much as I could, but my perspective is a bit limited as I don’t live in a high woodworking area (deep south) There are not many woodworking shows on TV here other than the “demolition derby” house building (wrecking) shows, that I hate. I used to get the “Yankee Workshop”, but that was it. Sponsors down here are not interested in woodworking. There are some serious woodworkers here, but few and far between. I have to depend on the internet for all my woodworking interests.

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#49 posted 01-24-2019 07:15 AM


I have been on this woodworking forum for many years now and have contributed to it as much as I could, but my perspective is a bit limited as I don t live in a high woodworking area (deep south) There are not many woodworking shows on TV here other than the “demolition derby” house building (wrecking) shows, that I hate. I used to get the “Yankee Workshop”, but that was it. Sponsors down here are not interested in woodworking. There are some serious woodworkers here, but few and far between. I have to depend on the internet for all my woodworking interests.

- MrRon

Mr Ron.

May I suggest YouTube?

You can FIND anything you want!!

Whether it be Woodworking Power Tools, Hand Tools, Projects, Tips & Tricks, Shop projects, etc. etc.
You Call it… You will get it!

You will have so much information at your fingertips, it will keep you awake at nights!! :)

It’s just AWESOME… Try it… You will like it!

On LumberJocks, try the Searching for what you want to see… You will be pleasantly surprised! :)

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