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#1 posted 02-17-2018 06:12 PM

Not really the forum for that comment? My guns all behave well, perhaps the person holding the gun may be responsible?

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#2 posted 02-17-2018 06:23 PM

[...] perhaps the person holding the gun may be responsible?
- Andre

LOL – where have we heard that before :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#3 posted 02-17-2018 06:35 PM

I have yet to see or hear of a gun killing anything. People killing other people, with knives, swords, clubs, vehicles, guns, yes Unfortunately it happens way too often, and many times by someone mentally ill or unstable. I guess all knives, swords, vehicles, etc need to be outlawed? And yes, my guns will be pried from my cold dead fingers if someone tries to take them away. I have no desire to live somewhere that only criminals and the govt have guns. Apparently some would, and I would be more than happy if they leave this country.

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#4 posted 02-17-2018 08:06 PM



WOW, the NRA can be justly proud of the new murder rate at Parker.

- Jimbo4

Why? Was Nikolas Cruz a member of the NRA?

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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#5 posted 02-17-2018 08:27 PM

Do you blame the car in a drunk driving murder?

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#6 posted 02-17-2018 08:57 PM



And yes, my guns will be pried from my cold dead fingers if someone tries to take them away.
- OSU55

In reality they will come through your door while you’re asleep, shoot your dog (if you have one) and take your guns. It won’t be UN troops or liberals, it will be the police + feds and they will have a piece of paper from a doctor and/or judge declaring you mentally unfit or a domestic terrorist. They will take your guns and you will never be allowed to own one again. There won’t be a trial, no romantic shootout; just you in your underwear, handcuffed and sitting in your favorite chair as the police carry your guns away. Bush Jr did that a number of times, along with many illegal property seizures.

BTW, I’m not anti-gun at all. I’m anti-mentally unstable people owning guns. The hardline attitude that every swinging duck, including people legally incompetent to manage their own finances, or drive a car, or who are undergoing counseling for antisocial personality disorders or are under watch because they may harm themselves; should be allowed to own guns is ridiculous and irresponsible.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#7 posted 02-17-2018 09:32 PM

NRA = Not Responsible for Anything!
If you are not part of the solution then you must be part of the problem!

The Japanese solution to safe gun ownership is a model of safe gun ownership.
In Japan anyone can have a gun if they follow the regulations.

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#8 posted 02-17-2018 09:39 PM

Funny. I’ve owned guns for years and they never hav had any issue. I guess for weak minded people it’s easier to blame the tool than the idiot using it.

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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#9 posted 02-17-2018 09:58 PM

They blame table saws for people losing fingers not the person being careless. Now they want all saws to be a sawstop.

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#10 posted 02-17-2018 10:17 PM

These are EXACTLY the kind of responses I expected from those weak minded who have absolutely no idea of why the 2nd amendment was brought about.

-- When I was a kid I wanted to be older . . . . . this CRAP is not what I expected ! RIP 09/08/2018

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000

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#11 posted 02-17-2018 10:19 PM

I can see it now.
The new FSLT gunstop!
Flesh Sensing Laser Technology. Stops a bullet from being fired when sensing flesh in the site.

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#12 posted 02-17-2018 10:22 PM

Jbay. Those won’t work for us hunters.
Also we should watch out for the nail guns.. they r semi automatic u know and literally anyone can buy them

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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#13 posted 02-17-2018 10:30 PM

When 21 first graders go shot (one with 20 bullet holes) and we did nothing, we as a nation decided that things like this are an acceptable loss for a bullet proof 2nd amendment. Sort of, second amendment collateral damage… so to speak.

A few months ago a legislator in my state put up a bill that would let anyone in a school carry a concealed weapon without question. That includes visitors. Go figure. crazy.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#14 posted 02-17-2018 10:38 PM



Jbay. Those won’t work for us hunters.
Also we should watch out for the nail guns.. they r semi automatic u know and literally anyone can buy them

- JCamp

You hunt people? lol

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#15 posted 02-17-2018 10:45 PM

If it’s not a gun it’s a deranged kid running a uhaul through a crowd of kids when school lets out. Let’s ban uhauls.

Or planting homemade pipe bombs. Let’s ban pipe.

The bleeding hearts never put the situations where people have justifiably defended themselves because they had a gun on the front page. Only stuff like this.

Whenever an armed person decided to break into your house you go ahead and talk them to death. Me? My only worry is cleaning up the mess and patching and painting the holes.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#16 posted 02-17-2018 10:46 PM

NRA? LMAO. How about rampant psychotropic drug dispensing by the AMA? How about the deinstitutionalization of mental healthcare by the APA? Pretty much every incident is tied to these.

In this case however, there is an organization with real blood on its hands. It’s a three letter acronym too.

The FBI.

In their own words:

Washington, D.C.
FBI National Press Office
(202) 324-3691

February 16, 2018
FBI Statement on the Shooting in Parkland, Florida
On January 5, 2018, a person close to Nikolas Cruz contacted the FBI’s Public Access Line (PAL) tipline to report concerns about him. The caller provided information about Cruz’s gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting.

Under established protocols, the information provided by the caller should have been assessed as a potential threat to life. The information then should have been forwarded to the FBI Miami Field Office, where appropriate investigative steps would have been taken.

We have determined that these protocols were not followed for the information received by the PAL on January 5. The information was not provided to the Miami Field Office, and no further investigation was conducted at that time.

FBI Director Christopher Wray said:

“We are still investigating the facts. I am committed to getting to the bottom of what happened in this particular matter, as well as reviewing our processes for responding to information that we receive from the public. It’s up to all Americans to be vigilant, and when members of the public contact us with concerns, we must act properly and quickly.

“We have spoken with victims and families, and deeply regret the additional pain this causes all those affected by this horrific tragedy. All of the men and women of the FBI are dedicated to keeping the American people safe, and are relentlessly committed to improving all that we do and how we do it.”

-- There's no such thing as a careless electrician

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#17 posted 02-17-2018 10:47 PM


Jbay. Those won’t work for us hunters.
Also we should watch out for the nail guns.. they r semi automatic u know and literally anyone can buy them

- JCamp

You hunt people? lol

- jbay

You threaten or harm my family the answer is without a second thought! Most likely will not require a gun.

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#18 posted 02-17-2018 10:50 PM



If it’s not a gun it’s a deranged kid running a uhaul through a crowd of kids when school lets out. Let’s ban uhauls.

Or planting homemade pipe bombs. Let’s ban pipe.

The bleeding hearts never put the situations where people have justifiably defended themselves because they had a gun on the front page. Only stuff like this.

Whenever an armed person decided to break into your house you go ahead and talk them to death. Me? My only worry is cleaning up the mess and patching and painting the holes.

- TheFridge

Amen! and sleep like a baby.

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#19 posted 02-17-2018 11:02 PM



Funny. I’ve owned guns for years and they never hav had any issue. I guess for weak minded people it’s easier to blame the tool than the idiot using it.

- JCamp


Take away the gun and it is far less likely for them to kill anyone.

The same day as the NRA approved Sandyhook shootings a Chinese man went nuts and attacked kids with a knife. He stabbed 20 kids and one senior. Most were stabbed in the head. No one died. So guns do in fact kill people. Take away the guns and the problem will decrease dramatically.

-- I always knew gun nuts where afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#20 posted 02-17-2018 11:10 PM


Jbay. Those won’t work for us hunters.
Also we should watch out for the nail guns.. they r semi automatic u know and literally anyone can buy them

- JCamp

You hunt people? lol

- jbay

I cannot confirm or deny I may, or may not have done so.

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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#21 posted 02-17-2018 11:12 PM


And yes, my guns will be pried from my cold dead fingers if someone tries to take them away.
- OSU55

In reality they will come through your door while you re asleep, shoot your dog (if you have one) and take your guns. It won t be UN troops or liberals, it will be the police + feds and they will have a piece of paper from a doctor and/or judge declaring you mentally unfit or a domestic terrorist. They will take your guns and you will never be allowed to own one again. There won t be a trial, no romantic shootout; just you in your underwear, handcuffed and sitting in your favorite chair as the police carry your guns away. Bush Jr did that a number of times, along with many illegal property seizures.

BTW, I m not anti-gun at all. I m anti-mentally unstable people owning guns. The hardline attitude that every swinging duck, including people legally incompetent to manage their own finances, or drive a car, or who are undergoing counseling for antisocial personality disorders or are under watch because they may harm themselves; should be allowed to own guns is ridiculous and irresponsible.

- Rick_M


So they will come in the night, on the same night, to all the millions of gun owners, even the unregistered ones, and it will end with a whimper? Think what ya want, but no, that aint happenin in my life time.

I have no issue with unstable people NOT being allowed to have a gun. There are cultural issues at the root of the mayhem, see Rich’s post as well as some of the others. Framers of the constitutional kind got it right. Dont be a sheep and be led down the path to more govt control.

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#22 posted 02-17-2018 11:14 PM

1st, I’m all for guns and wouldn’t think twice about pulling the trigger if my family is threatened.

I had a discussion with a buddy about it yesterday and he made a good point.

There is nothing immediate that we can or will do that will stop killings, but there are things that can be done to lessen them.

The point he made was that if measures (whatever restrictions they make) were put in place, and it saves only one person (maybe your son or daughter) then is it worth it?
It will be very hard to stop killings altogether, but at least there are ways to make the numbers go down.

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#23 posted 02-17-2018 11:19 PM



These are EXACTLY the kind of responses I expected from those weak minded who have absolutely no idea of why the 2nd amendment was brought about.

- Jimbo4


The idea is to have we the people armed as good or better than the government.
1st. Amendment = You are not a king!
2nd amendment = We told you, you are not a king!
Go read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers, it will explain it all to you.
Now I read the local cops were summoned 20 odd times and a physiological said he was no threat, we have the laws just need to stop being pc.
what law do you think will stop this,
The no killing law? Have it now.
The can’t buy a gun if your a nut? Have it now.
The can’t buy a gun if underage? Have it now.
If your going the musket, dead is dead you could have a cannon back then, look up weapons of the revaluation.
Ban guns like drugs are banned? How’s that working.
Look up the gun/crime rates of the largest city all antigun democrats, how are those laws working; and why isn’t anyone concerned with black on black crime?
NRA, has always been about safety, PAC money minute compared to what the union PAC money is to democrats.
When I grew up we were trained on the use of the tool (gun) had them in the back of the car in high school never a problem; what changed, no God, no parental control (schools took that), no parent, the feminizing of America, we all get a trophy, no bullies, you hurt my feelings, no responsibility for your actions,...,.

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#24 posted 02-17-2018 11:29 PM

The problem is that the actual problem is a systematic failure in various areas. No one thing like a gun bill, or extensive background checks is going to be the magic pill that changes things. We blame alot on mental health but we fail to ask why this happened. Could it be the breakdown of the family unit over the past 30-40 years? Maybe the trend toward no one fails everyone is a winner no struggles in life mindset? Maybe even the glorifying attitude the movies and TV we watch shows for those that shoot everything up and nothing happens to them? The list of failures can be miles long.

I certainly do not have the answers but I see the effects of what I mentioned have had on our society in my lifetime. Unchecked where does this take us?

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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#25 posted 02-17-2018 11:48 PM

Almost every one of the shooters is someone that society threw away, someone who didn’t fit in anywhere, someone who wanted their name to be known. What does the media do when something like this happens, they plaster their picture and name everywhere. The next unstable person that wants to be famous thinks it’s how they are going to become famous, that they will show everyone just like the ones before them did.

Modern society and the media are every bit as culpable as guns are, but if someone mentioned restricting the press from plastering killers pictures everywhere and repeating their names constantly they would scream at the top of their lungs.

Timothy McVeigh took out over 100 people with farm supplies.

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#26 posted 02-17-2018 11:57 PM

I heard he was a registered democrat. Maybe those should be banned.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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#27 posted 02-18-2018 12:08 AM


Timothy McVeigh took out over 100 people with farm supplies.

- patcollins

Ditto. Where there is a will. There is a way.

Even if you ban high cap mags (fine) and bump stocks (fine) and semi automatic rifles. You underestimate the ingenuity of someone bent on revenge.

The source of the problem isn’t guns. It’s mentally unstable people.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#28 posted 02-18-2018 12:23 AM

Well I’m pretty sure having a gun in a school is against the law
Shooting ppl is against the law
The guy broke a dozen law so I don’t see how more laws will stop anything.
Also taking guns from law abiding ppl doesn’t do nothing but allow for more easy victims (hence no one trying to shoot up a police office or gun show)
Only thing I might consider as a good thing is if there was a one time mandatory gun safety test for anyone that would eventually wanna buy a gun
Also if u really like the Japan way ur welcome to move. Also japan doesn’t accept Muslims so if we adopt the gun control from them shouldn’t we also adopt that?

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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#29 posted 02-18-2018 01:09 AM

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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#30 posted 02-18-2018 01:09 AM

I cannot for the life of me understand how this country ever got so polarized….forget about Communist News Network and their fake news, forget about left wing liberal democrats that want to give the entire country away to the third world, forget about having to hate all conservative republicans {I guess because “they have all the money”, but forget that they worked for it} even forget about Trump chirping or yelping or whatever he does constantly on his cell phone when he’s supposed to be running the country…..how can anyone be so god forsaken, mother blasting stupid to believe that if all guns magically evaporated all crime would evaporate with them???? The great democrat pipe dream!!! If there was just one armed and willing citizen in that school there would have only been two shots fired and one person killed. The only answer to and the only way to stop a maniac psycho nutbar with a gun is a responsible person with another gun. I’d be happy to hear any suggestions anyone may have otherwise. Offer him a flower and sing Kum Baya aint gonna git libtards!!! People that claim to know the “real” reason for the second amendment…..this is it, the right of the people {ALL of us, to defend ourselves}shall not be infringed!

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#31 posted 02-18-2018 01:15 AM

Ripper 70 for the win!

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#32 posted 02-18-2018 01:16 AM

I tell you what, let’s start with all the bodyguards of the government, stars, and every person who is for no guns to give up theirs, now that should be easy could be done in a day yes? Why do we still protect old presidents, couldn’t we just change the codes from 3 to say? 7?. If you are going to kill isn’t a gun free zone (Bill Clinton law schools) the best place to go? After all go to the Whitehouse they got guns, Congress they got guns, your elected officials they got guns, can always just rent a truck and plow over people, fly a plane into a building, chain a door and pour gasoline.
Killers gonna kill, our jobs shoot them when we can, because the cops only fill out paperwork after.
Name one time the gun laws saved someone?

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#33 posted 02-18-2018 02:12 AM

My last words on this topic are:
  • We have the protected right to bear arms. As old as that right is it is still in effect and probably will stay that way until all who read this are no longer around.
  • We need controls in place to stop nuts from getting guns. If this means full background and mental stability test then so be it as I believe that any rational person who really wants a gun will not be upset by better controls and the potential of less tears for parents of school children.

We consider ourselves as a civilized country but if you look at the statistics we are still the “wild west”.
The chart below from CBS NEWS.com

This chart does not include Switzerland which has a gun ownership rate of near 25% and a gun violence rate of 0.21/100,000. These statistics are similar to Norway, Sweeden, Germany, Japan, and others!

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#34 posted 02-18-2018 02:20 AM

Ripper I bet Gaddafi wished he had let the one guy have a gun instead of a bayonet at the end. No pun intended on “end”

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#35 posted 02-18-2018 02:29 AM

IF you do take all the guns away…..who is left with guns? Cops? And…crooks. They don’t even have to buy theirs, just steal them…..

In the weeks before the old Kenton Coon Dog Trials, near Kenton OH…..break-ins would spike in the area….mainly looking for guns to steal. About half the items you could buy at the trials was “HOT”. Well, except for that gal in the trailer in the Back Row area….

So,, yeah, give up all the guns…..crooks already have what they need, and know where to steal more. While you are at it, take away the cop’s guns, and give a truncheon like the English use. Too many Fearless Fosdycks that should first….

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#36 posted 02-18-2018 03:27 AM


My last words on this topic are: We have the protected right to bear arms. As old as that right is it is still in effect and probably will stay that way until all who read this are no longer around. We need controls in place to stop nuts from getting guns. If this means full background and mental stability test then so be it as I believe that any rational person who really wants a gun will not be upset by better controls and the potential of less tears for parents of school children.

We consider ourselves as a civilized country but if you look at the statistics we are still the “wild west”.
The chart below from CBS NEWS.com

This chart does not include Switzerland which has a gun ownership rate of near 25% and a gun violence rate of 0.21/100,000. These statistics are similar to Norway, Sweeden, Germany, Japan, and others!
- oldnovice

What I find most interesting in this chart is only the Czech Republic has a non-firearm homicide rate higher than we do. Why do we have such a high non-firearm homicide rate?

The Scandinavian countries have such high suicide rates also, why do you suppose that is? I understand Asian countries because it is cultural and committing suicide is considered honorable.

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#37 posted 02-18-2018 04:27 AM


Not really the forum for that comment? My guns all behave well, perhaps the person holding the gun may be responsible?

- Andre

It’s the ONLY Forum for that Question/Statement.

I live in Canada. No One carries Guns up here other than the Police and Fully Licensed Personnel who require it in the performance of their job. and naturally, Hunters.

If you get caught with an Unlicensed Gun, concealed or otherwise, you are going to JAIL!

In my 70 Years I have never seen Anyone carry a gun and have never seen a Police Officer Draw his weapon, let alone use it.

YES! I can still buy a gun (Pistol) “Under The Counter” for $300 to $500 if I want to Murder someone.

I believe that Marshall Law has been declared in a number of your States. (MAYBE NOT.) Your 1st. & 2nd. Amendment Rights just went down the Toilet!

It’s like Rick said in Post 6. No More Rights and it’s probably … “Off to a FEMA Camp”

OH! More People are killed annually in the USA by the use of “Other Than Guns Means” than Guns.

Rick

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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#38 posted 02-18-2018 05:02 AM

This is a people problem created by the media who sell sex and violence on TV, movies and video games and by do gooders that won’t get rid of murderers.

Kids are like sponges and the are being taught how easy it is to kill by the media. We never had the problem in the 50’s when TV was wholesome and sane!

You reap what you sow. Guns have always been there and have not been a problem until we taught violence in everything and to every age now. Let’s identify the real problem and start solving it!

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#39 posted 02-18-2018 05:13 AM

Honest to God people. Can’t you read? You’re doing the lemming thing blaming guns for this tragedy, but the real villains are the FBI. How clueless can you be?

I posted a link to their own admission that they dropped the ball. Go back to post #16 and read it for Christ sake. They were so busy wasting time chasing down dossiers that go nowhere that they missed a no-brainer.

First, Trump should fire all of their butts. Second, if I were a parent of one of these victims, I’d be lawyering up and making sure heads roll.

It’s a disgusting end to the failure of what once was the premier law enforcement organization in the entire world. Today, the FBI is a partisan shell of what they once were. And children are dead. Pathetic.

-- There's no such thing as a careless electrician

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#40 posted 02-18-2018 05:17 AM

We need to change the way these things are covered. The killers names must not be spoken, just the names of the people hurt. We don’t need to know why they did it, we don’t need to give them a platform to become famous.

Maybe if someone sick starts to see these sick people are not getting their names said over and over again, but Mary C., John R., were hurt today in a…, it might change a mind.

-- Doug - As my Dad taught me, you're not a cabinet maker until you can hide your mistakes.

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#41 posted 02-18-2018 05:22 AM


My last words on this topic are:
  • We have the protected right to bear arms. As old as that right is it is still in effect and probably will stay that way until all who read this are no longer around.
  • We need controls in place to stop nuts from getting guns. If this means full background and mental stability test then so be it as I believe that any rational person who really wants a gun will not be upset by better controls and the potential of less tears for parents of school children.

We consider ourselves as a civilized country but if you look at the statistics we are still the “wild west”.
The chart below from CBS NEWS.com

This chart does not include Switzerland which has a gun ownership rate of near 25% and a gun violence rate of 0.21/100,000. These statistics are similar to Norway, Sweeden, Germany, Japan, and others!
- oldnovice

What I find most interesting in this chart is only the Czech Republic has a non-firearm homicide rate higher than we do. Why do we have such a high non-firearm homicide rate?

The Scandinavian countries have such high suicide rates also, why do you suppose that is? I understand Asian countries because it is cultural and committing suicide is considered honorable.

- patcollins


Sweden, Denmark, and Norway are lower than the US, so don’t see how the Scandinavian countries are so high. I reckon the long winters have a negative effect on some in Finland.

Japanese and South Koreans work really long hours, you may have seen stories of people working themselves to death over say 40 or 50+ hours straight. They also don’t have a religious proscription against suicide like we do.

-- I always knew gun nuts where afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#42 posted 02-18-2018 05:25 AM


Honest to God people. Can t you read? You re doing the lemming thing blaming guns for this tragedy, but the real villains are the FBI. How clueless can you be?

I posted a link to their own admission that they dropped the ball. Go back to post #16 and read it for Christ sake. They were so busy wasting time chasing down dossiers that go nowhere that they missed a no-brainer.

First, Trump should fire all of their butts. Second, if I were a parent of one of these victims, I d be lawyering up and making sure heads roll.

It s a disgusting end to the failure of what once was the premier law enforcement organization in the entire world. Today, the FBI is a partisan shell of what they once were. And children are dead. Pathetic.

- Rich


No, easy access to guns is the problem.

The FBI dropped the ball once, but I suspect you would be pitching a fit if he was arrested for what he might do.

That line about the dossiers is straight from a trump tweet, how sad for you.

-- I always knew gun nuts where afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#43 posted 02-18-2018 05:47 AM

The FBI dropped the ball once, but I suspect you would be pitching a fit if he was arrested for what he might do.

- RobS888

Huh? First, you’re a dope who only shows up for partisan BS. You’re not a woodworker. Second, you suspect something about me? You know nothing about me, jerk. Go back to your flaccid cigarette that made you giggle like the child that you are.

-- There's no such thing as a careless electrician

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#44 posted 02-18-2018 06:40 AM


... perhaps the person holding the gun may be responsible?
- Andre

The exact argument for restricting access to people who are mentally unstable. Well said.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#45 posted 02-18-2018 06:41 AM

Weeelllll, I think that just about killed this thread…..not even going to bother to pop any popcorn….

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#46 posted 02-18-2018 07:07 AM

Is it welll, weeell or weeelll? Go get the popcorn…

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#47 posted 02-18-2018 07:08 AM

Is it welll, weeell or weeelll? Help, my keyboard is repeating and out of control…

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#48 posted 02-18-2018 07:46 AM

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson

“Forty years ago, when the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised…to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them” – George Mason

“And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the right of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms” – Sam Adams

“Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation.. (where) ..the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” – James Madison

“To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” – Richard Henry Lee

“The great object is, that every man be armed…. Every one who is able may have a gun.” – Patrick Henry

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed.” – Noah Webster

“Little more can reasonably be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed and equipped.” – Alexander Hamilton

“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” – Tench Coxe

“Arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe…Horrid mischief would ensue were the good deprived of the use of them.” – Thomas Paine

“Both Oligarch and Tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of arms.” – Aristotle

“The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are constitutional rights secure.” – Albert Einstein

“The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally…enable the people to resist and triumph over them.” -Joseph Story

“I cannot agree with those who think of the Bill of Rights as an 18th century straitjacket, unsuited for this age…The evils it guards against are not only old, they are with us now, they exist today.” – Hugo Black

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#49 posted 02-18-2018 02:00 PM

Thank you Ripper70, I see in my Sunday paper more people paid by our taxes were in the know about this kid, cutting himself on Snapchat.
Until the U.S. Is disarmed the plans of the “progressive, socialist, communist ” New World order, the Bush, Clinton, Obama, Soros, democrats and republicans all working that way can’t be realized.
1776 or 2018 people haven’t changed that much.

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#50 posted 02-18-2018 02:15 PM


The FBI dropped the ball once, but I suspect you would be pitching a fit if he was arrested for what he might do.

- RobS888

Huh? First, you re a dope who only shows up for partisan BS. You re not a woodworker. Second, you suspect something about me? You know nothing about me, jerk. Go back to your flaccid cigarette that made you giggle like the child that you are.

- Rich


lol, that picture of the flaccid ash still makes me laugh. Wow! Really reaching for an inditement aren’t you. I can’t say anything because I found a picture funny? I do know enough about you based on your posts/name-calling in this thread

Do you support arresting people for what they might do with a gun?

-- I always knew gun nuts where afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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