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Help on planers

by nitehorse
posted 02-16-2018 04:53 PM


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eflanders

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#1 posted 02-16-2018 06:23 PM

I had a Steel City version of what is now called the Cutech planer. It worked like a champ, was quiet (comparatively speaking) to a non helical head unit. The only reason I got rid of it was because I needed something with more capacity. For the money, it is very hard to beat in my opinion. Cutech does have customer service and I have used it successfully a few times for my Steel City bandsaw. I would buy the Cutech over the Dewalt based on overall value. Having two speeds is not a big deal at all. I would much rather have the helical head!

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ArtMann

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#2 posted 02-16-2018 06:44 PM

The DW735 is not in the same league as the Grizzly. I would estimate the G0815 will do twice as much work in an hour as the DW735. However, that is not necessarily the criterion you ought to use. The DW735 will probably do a better finish job, especially if you retrofit the segmented spiral cutter head. I know several people who have a DW735 and they are all pleased. I believe it is a quality machine.

I upgraded to a combination jointer/planer a while back but before that, I used a Ridgid TP 1300 lunchbox planer for about 10 years. It was an excellent tool but it was slow.

The Grizzly tool is an almost exact copy of a Delta machine that was common many years ago.

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TheFridge

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#3 posted 02-16-2018 07:06 PM

The dewalt is the champ of lunchbox planers. The shelix head is awesome as well. I’d get the head that is the same size as the stock head if I had a do over but I’m happy.

Don’t know a thing about the grizzly.

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Loren

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#4 posted 02-16-2018 07:21 PM

What I’ve found with lower-powered planers
is that they don’t like to take very deep cuts
on wider boards.

Awhile back I found a bargain on a 15” 4-post
planer similar to the Grizzly but with a 2hp
motor. It was wider, more precise and had
better dust collection than the Belsaw I had
been using, so away the 5hp Belsaw went.

Soon after I had a job where I had to plane
a bunch of oak boards and I really missed the
Belsaw then because I probably had to take
twice as many passes with that 2 horse planer
to get my wood to thickness.

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Hermit

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#5 posted 02-17-2018 10:36 AM

I’ve had the 735 for a month or so with no complaints.
Back in the 90s, I bought a used woodmaster planer from a friend when I was making bunk beds for resale. It was a workhorse. They are still in business today http://www.woodmastertools.com/index.cfm
Rarely do I see posts about this company but they’ve been in business a long time. It’s made in the USA. I do remember customer service was good. Wish I had it now. Although pricey, considering you don’t need a separate belt sander, it’s worth the $.

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MadDuckBill

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#6 posted 02-17-2018 01:29 PM

Wow, I checked the Woodmaster prices!

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runswithscissors

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#7 posted 02-18-2018 12:55 AM

The Grizzly has an induction motor, which will be more powerful and much longer lasting than the universal motor on the Dewalt. It may be somewhat quieter, too, though in my experience it is the knives, not the motor (or fan, in the Dewalt) that make most of the noise. I had a DW735 years ago, and tried removing the fan to see if I could eliminate some of the howling. It made virtually no difference, so I reinstalled the fan.

I’m surprised Grizzly doesn’t have a helical head for that, though I’m sure Byrd could make you a Shellix head for it.

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nitehorse

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#8 posted 02-18-2018 03:52 PM

Machinery must have surged in prices in the last decade. In central PA used prices seem to be higher than a lot of other places. Found a 1021 on CL for $1000 but passed it up as it has a 2hp motor.
As for the 815, I would think a helix/spiral cutter will come along at some point.
I guess preference on machinery is just like vehicles, some hate’m some love’m. Me, I would never buy a ford truck after having to go thru the lemon law back in 06, I’ll stick with Chevy diesel.
I did buy a Griz 1182 joiner in good shape for $375. A bit high but better than a craftsman.

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nitehorse

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#9 posted 02-18-2018 04:04 PM

Does anyone own a G0815?
How could I extend the in/out feed tables with acceptable tolerance?

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runswithscissors

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#10 posted 02-19-2018 04:06 AM

The older Grizzly planers extended the bed with rollers in a frame of steel bars. Some were a single roller each end, later 2 or 3 rollers each end. They were bolted into the ends of the table. Cast iron is very easy to drill and tap. Set screws allowed vertical adjustment. These would be easy make and install.

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nitehorse

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#11 posted 02-24-2018 05:45 PM

I am coming to realize that the longer I try to find a planer, or any machine, I wind up going up in price :)
That’s not necessarily a bad thing. I was just again looking at the Grizzly G0815 and saw their G0853 has free shipping. So if I have to buy a stand for the G0815 upgrade to the G0453 is $100. Plus at this time a spiral head is available for the G0853 and not the G0815.
Anticipated wood for planning is oak, cherry, ash, black walnut, ash, mulberry, pine, cedar and maybe locust.
I have now upgraded from a Dewalt 753.
Question? I am just not that knowledgeable about planers but I see quite a few differences, automatic board feed, cut height, triple belt, etc. Will the G0453 be a better machine all around?

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Loren

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#12 posted 02-24-2018 08:05 PM

No matter what you buy you’re going to spend
a lot of time sanding unless you get machines
that reduce that time substantially.

I think if you spend more money on a machine you’ll
generally get a better machine. There’s a point of
diminishing returns with each machine in the woodworking
process though and where that point hits depends
on what you’re looking for at each step in the
process and, if you’re setting up a shop and buying
everything, on your overall budget.

I’d say all 4-post planers are going to thickness
wood pretty much the same, but some have extension
tables that reduce sniping and some have stronger
motors. Some will deliver more variety in surface
finishes due to speed range. Then you have the
cutter head upgrades.

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Bobmedic

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#13 posted 02-25-2018 09:52 PM

The Dewalt DW 735 doesn’t have different cutter head speeds. The switch changes the feed rate just like the Grizzly. You can get either carbide blades for the Dewalt (aftermarket) or get a helical cutter head that uses carbide inserts. The shelix cutter head is the best option but it’s expensive. They run about 400 dollars. It all depends on what you are planing and how much if that option is cost effective.

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BoardButcherer

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#14 posted 02-26-2018 07:07 PM



The Dewalt DW 735 doesn’t have different cutter head speeds. The switch changes the feed rate just like the Grizzly. You can get either carbide blades for the Dewalt (aftermarket) or get a helical cutter head that uses carbide inserts. The shelix cutter head is the best option but it’s expensive. They run about 400 dollars. It all depends on what you are planing and how much if that option is cost effective.

- Bobmedic

Wow… You can buy a fully functional 16-20” planer at auction for the same as a DW735 with a helical…

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nitehorse

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#15 posted 03-15-2018 01:46 AM

I put my order in for a G0453 without the spiral. Money does become an issue :(.
I just tried to get what appears to be a good solid machine without going overboard on size and price. I doubt I will ever plane a board more the 10” wide.
Grizzly says they are coming in around March 30.

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Rayne

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#16 posted 03-15-2018 02:10 AM



I put my order in for a G0453 without the spiral. Money does become an issue :(.
I just tried to get what appears to be a good solid machine without going overboard on size and price. I doubt I will ever plane a board more the 10” wide.
Grizzly says they are coming in around March 30.

- nitehorse


Wow, that’s a good lead time. There have been a TON of posts about people waiting for Grizzly machines for several months.

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msinc

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#17 posted 03-15-2018 02:20 AM

Many moons ago I had a Grizzly 15 inch planer. I couldn’t kill it and it wasn’t for lack of trying. It was the Timex of planers…that thing took a strokin’ and kept on pokin. I sold it, got out of the game for a while and got back in not too long ago. I got a 735 and I have to say that for the money it is an excellent planer for the hobby guy. The 735 runs fast and has two motors. One planes the wood while the other blows out the chips. It is a neat idea and although mine shows no signs of slowing down, I have to wonder just how much longer it will last. I have debated the Shelix head, but that doubles the cost associated with the 735, so I bought a new Powermatic 15. All that said, no one can ever complain about the finish the little 735 can put on a board. When it’s right, and mine has been nothing but so far, you cant beat the way the 735 works. I just wouldn’t count on it if I had to use it every day.

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TheFridge

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#18 posted 03-15-2018 02:55 AM


The Dewalt DW 735 doesn’t have different cutter head speeds. The switch changes the feed rate just like the Grizzly. You can get either carbide blades for the Dewalt (aftermarket) or get a helical cutter head that uses carbide inserts. The shelix cutter head is the best option but it’s expensive. They run about 400 dollars. It all depends on what you are planing and how much if that option is cost effective.

- Bobmedic

Wow… You can buy a fully functional 16-20” planer at auction for the same as a DW735 with a helical…

- BoardButcherer

No matter what, the helical is gonna command a premium. Auction or not.

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BoardButcherer

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#19 posted 03-15-2018 01:56 PM


No matter what, the helical is gonna command a premium. Auction or not.

- TheFridge

Of course, I just find it baffling that people will throw that much money at a lunchbox planer that may or may not make it to the 5 year mark and probably give them issues along the way when they could put the same amount into a full sized planer, clean it up a bit and grab a helical in a couple years, resulting in a machine that they aren’t even thinking about replacing after 5 years anytime in the next 10.

But whatever. I can’t complain about people being suckered in by shiny new stuff from the big tool companies. Milwaukee got me with a $400 drill and driver combo that has planned obsolescence manufactured into it. Still feeling a little bit of stockholm syndrome on that one and having to resist the urge to buy more tools for the batteries.

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