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Help identify unusual USA made hand plane

by Thorbjorn88
posted 02-15-2018 04:29 PM


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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#1 posted 02-15-2018 04:37 PM

I’ve seen, I believe, Corsair planes sporting plastic totes like that one. No experience rehabbing one of them though, sorry.

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Mike54Ohio

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#2 posted 02-15-2018 05:13 PM

I agree with Smitty probably a Corsair, for a few dollars more at most “antique” stores you can usually find a decent old Stanley worth rehabbing and much better quality IMO

Good Luck either way

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Thorbjorn88

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#3 posted 02-15-2018 05:25 PM

Thanks for the input, with that I was able to find a corsair plane with the same handle. I’ll probably keep looking and swing by the antique store. Let me as an absolute hand tool beginner question: So even if I’m I don’t care at all about collect-ability just function I should lean toward Stanleys over something like a Corsair, Great Neck, or Miller Farms?

-- Dave

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Don W

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#4 posted 02-15-2018 05:28 PM

Stanley, Sargent, Millers Falls, Union all can be good.

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BlasterStumps

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#5 posted 02-15-2018 05:43 PM

Like most things, when you want one, you can’t find one. I looked hard for one of those planes so that I could get the plastic tote to put on my old Delta tenoning jig. I couldn’t come up with one at the time so I ended up making a wooden tote for it. Since then I have seen several available. : (

Probably a decent enough old plane for some things.
Mike

-- "I build for function first, looks second. Most times I never get around to looks." - Mike, western Colorado

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bbasiaga

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#6 posted 02-15-2018 07:37 PM

Send us some more pics. What is the frog like? Cast iron and machined or stamped/folded metal?

Is the frog position adjustable?

My brother has a defiance plane that is a lot like a Stanley, but without the frog adjustment screw. It takes nice shavings anyway. Some super cheap planes lack mechanical strength necessary to perform consistently. At least that is what I read. Most of the advice on brands to buy seem ‘ve erred around that…if you buy Stanley, sergeant, Miller’s falls, you know how thhey were made and that they are capable. The ones only labelled ‘made in the USA ’ you would have to k ow what to look for. Some were as good, others sub par.

Brian

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.

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Don W

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#7 posted 02-15-2018 11:16 PM

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bandit571

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#8 posted 02-15-2018 11:57 PM

Red base casting…

Red frog…

These were some of the first hand planes I used…long time ago..

Red and the blue block plane were among the first…...

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Thorbjorn88

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#9 posted 02-16-2018 08:05 PM

Thanks for the input everyone. I think I have a much better idea of what to look for in a plane now. Unfortunately that’s the only picture I have of that plane. I might go look at it tomorrow but probably won’t pick it up.

-- Dave

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RPhillips

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#10 posted 02-19-2018 11:07 PM

Didn’t Millers Falls make planes with plastic knob and tote? For some reason I was thinking they did with the red or maroon colored tote and knob.

Anyways, looks to me like it could make a descent plane. You could always replace the plastic bits and refurbish it. the iron looks to be long and not too thin.

-- Rob - Indianapolis IN - Learning... one mistake at a time...

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Thorbjorn88

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#11 posted 02-19-2018 11:10 PM

Yeah, plastic definitely isn’t a deal breaker. I actually made a new tote last week for a different plane out of jatoba and have plenty left over for a few more.

-- Dave

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chrisstef

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#12 posted 02-19-2018 11:11 PM



Didn t Millers Falls make planes with plastic knob and tote? For some reason I was thinking they did with the maroom colored tote and knob.

Looks to me like it could make a descent plane. You could always replace the plastic bits and refurbish it. the iron looks to be long and not too thin.

- RPhillips

The MF buck rogers had red plastic knob n tote.

-- Its not a crack, its a casting imperfection.

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bandit571

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#13 posted 02-19-2018 11:32 PM

They also made one called “Permaloid”.....good luck finding one, as those tend to be collector’s items…

Model Number 209…...

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TheFridge

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#14 posted 02-20-2018 01:19 AM

It kinda looks like a HF plane or something super cheap.

Edit: sorry. You said it was made in USA.

It may be ok. I sure wouldn’t pay 15$

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bandit571

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#15 posted 02-20-2018 01:25 AM

Made by Great Neck Tool Co. back in the 70s…

Two product lines, one was simply a Great Neck No. 4…the other was a Cosair C-4…

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olegrump

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#16 posted 02-20-2018 12:50 PM

I have a Corsair smooth plane that belonged to my Grandfather. I used to HATE using it until I took the time to reshape the wooden tote handle. (It was too wide front to back and not shaped nicely to grip. Kinda like some modern planes) After that modification, it’s become one of my favorite smoothers.

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