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Question: Older Rockwell Delta 6” Jointer Info

by TheRusticMan
posted 02-13-2018 02:48 PM


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Planeman40

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#1 posted 02-13-2018 05:16 PM

You can find all of the information about your jointer here. Use your serial no.

http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=1141&tab=4

I have this jointer. Bought it new in mid 1970s. Damn good jointer!

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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TheRusticMan

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#2 posted 02-13-2018 07:31 PM

Thank you Planeman, do you think $100 is a decent deal considering the condition?

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Planeman40

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#3 posted 02-14-2018 05:53 PM

As you say it runs, I would say $100 is a good buy. Just clean it up and paint it if you chose. Not much to go wrong if there are no broken castings. The trick will be properly installing new blades if needed. Provided the old blades were properly set and are all the same height and are parallel to each other, DON’T MESS WITH THE HEIGHT ADJUSTMENTS! New blades will be precision ground to the exact same dimensions to each other and can be dropped in and tightened up without any trouble. However, if the old blades are installed at varying heights and are not parallel to each other, then you will need to mess with the height adjustments when installing new blades. This can be a challenge. You will need a suitable jig or a dial test indicator to get them right. Just visit YouTube and search for “installing jointer blades” for a how-to video. Also, the adjustment of the infeed and outfeed tables may be too tight or too loose. There are small adjustment screws on the side of the tables that can be tightened or loosened. If the jointer hasn’t been used in a while, these tables may be hard to move from lack of use. Just loosen the adjustment screws and move the tables up and down to free them, then re-tighten the screws so the tables move freely but are fairly tight. You might want to check the parallelism of the two tables to each other by laying a straightedge across both tables to check. The bearings should be good, but if not, you should be able to get replacement bearing easily from a bearings and drives supplier. Ball bearings are standard off-the shelf items.

Good luck!

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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MrUnix

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#4 posted 02-14-2018 06:15 PM

1958 catalog #37-220
Manual can be found here

Not an original motor, but does appear to be on an original stand with the often missing belt guard. $100 is a great price if it’s still available – don’t let OWWM Rule #5 bite you.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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smitdog

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#5 posted 02-14-2018 06:38 PM

As the others have said, $100 seams like a good price as long as there are no major issues. It will require quite a bit of elbow grease to get cleaned up. If you enjoy that sort of thing then go for it, if not you may want to keep searching but you are going to pay more for a decent 6 inch, especially the longer bed versions. I got my 37-220 for $175 but it was in a lot better condition, still needed a bit of TLC though. I’ve seen the same model go for $250 or more in “ready to use” condition.

-- Jarrett - Mount Vernon, Ohio

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Steve_D

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#6 posted 02-14-2018 06:54 PM

I’ve got one and it does a great job for me. Mine originally had a not so good wooden stand, but that was easily corrected. I’d agree with Planeman40 about setting the knives. Some newer machines have better ways to change and adjust knives, but it’s something you can deal with if you are patient. I don’t remember what I paid for mine, but $100 sounds like a good deal. Seems like a majority of used jointers are 4”.

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TheRusticMan

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#7 posted 02-14-2018 09:18 PM

10-4 on Rule #5, I have already arranged to pick the jointer up tomorrow, just couldn’t pass it up for that price. Im Looking forward to my first jointer and getting this vintage machine cleaned up. I’ll post some more pictures once I get her home. Thanks all for your valuable info.

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cabmaker

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#8 posted 02-14-2018 10:17 PM

I had one similar,,,,,,,IMO that is one of the best jointer fences delta ever put on their machines,,,,,bombproof

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TheRusticMan

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#9 posted 02-16-2018 04:30 AM

UPDATE: I picked up the Jointer today as well as a pretty awesome 56” sawmill blade. But back to the jointer. She is in desperate need of some love, missing two hand-wheels, a rear hand knob, and knife guard. None of which are readily available. I checked eBay and found one of the hand-wheels and the hand knob. I am still looking for the knife guard and another hand-wheel. If anyone knows where to acquire one it would be much appreciated. Below are the part numbers.

Delta 37-220 HAND WHEEL: Part NO. DJ-28-S
Delta 37-220 KNIFE GUARD: Part NO. DJ-7-W

After dusting her off, and doing a basic safety check, I plugged her in and sure enough she ran. To me (first jointer) the knives looked pretty decent. I took quite a few pictures and 2 videos of her running. Being the age of the machine, potentially replacing the belt, and bearings, seems like a good idea. Anyone familiar with a replacement belt for this model? Being pretty new with jointers, and older machines in general which bearing specifically would benefit from replacing?

Thank you all for your input and knowledge.

I took the belt/pulley cover off and the right side of the belt seemed flap as opposed to the left side which ran flat, there was also a loud vibration as the jointer was powered off. SEE VIDEO for better description.

Overall I think I did ok, a quick dusting with a wire brush and the rust came off fairly easily. I’m looking forward to getting the jointer in precise working order, having the front and rear hand-wheels to adjust the indeed/outfeed tables would make it easier.

Well I cannot for the life of me figure out how to post photos directly in post, tried several hosting sites the last one FLIKR. I keep getting the ? box in the preview. So Im going to post a link to the photo album hope you everyone is able to see the album.

Thank You!

Jointer Photos

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MrUnix

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#10 posted 02-16-2018 04:37 AM

The belt may or may not be a stock item, as those shipped with and without motors or stands, so there are a lot of variations. If you can’t find a number on the belt, just measure it. As for bearings, I’d replace them all (cutter head and motor) and be done with it. You have no idea how much use/abuse that machine has seen or when (if) they were last replaced. Cheap and easy insurance and you will know they are good.

You can find parts over at the OWWM site in the BOYD (Bring Out Your Dead) buy/sell/trade section. Those are pretty common jointers and were made for a long time, so there are plenty of parts available. Get your knives sharpened and order a spare set to have on hand while the others are out being sharpened.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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TheRusticMan

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#11 posted 02-16-2018 04:40 AM

Thanks Brad, I will check out the BOYD, didn’t know about that section. Much appreciated!

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Aj2

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#12 posted 02-16-2018 05:47 AM

To post photos from your devise direct use the img tab. That’s what works for me,nice score on the jointer look at the size of that cutter head.. For a small jointer that should produce a very acceptable cut.

-- Aj

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Planeman40

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#13 posted 02-16-2018 03:17 PM

I can understand the blade guard being missing as it lifts off, but the hand wheels? Curious. As to the “whistling” noise, try to locate it by taking the belt off and running the motor only. This should locate the noise. If the jointer hasn’t run in a long time, the grease in one of the ball bearings could have become stiff. Let it run for a while and see if it clears up. Also, if you paint the jointer, take one of the painted parts to the paint store. They can scan it for color and mix an exact copy of the paint color. Use an oil base enamel as it dries hard and is tough as a finish. Just brush it on.

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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smitdog

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#14 posted 02-23-2018 05:11 PM

Sitting for so long probably put a set to the belt causing the vibration. I’d change it first and go ahead and do the bearings and you’ll be good for a long time! Make sure the beds are co-planer and the knives are sharp and set correctly and you’ll have a nice user once you clean it up and find some hand wheels. cabmaker is right about the fence being seriously beefy!

-- Jarrett - Mount Vernon, Ohio

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TheRusticMan

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#15 posted 02-24-2018 09:10 PM

So I’m elbow deep in restoring the jointer and after removing the tables. I found a broken casting on the rear lower dovetail of the infeed table. IS THIS GAME OVER? Is there a way to repair or work with it broken. I can see this being an issue with getting the tables co-planer. Should I scrap it and part it out? Thoughts. I’ve already got about $200 in it total.

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MrUnix

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#16 posted 02-24-2018 09:50 PM

I don’t see it as being an issue as there is still plenty of surface for the table to ride on. Put it together and see.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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TheRusticMan

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#17 posted 02-24-2018 10:22 PM

Thanks Brad, I was getting a little discouraged. The restoration shall continue.

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Ripper70

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#18 posted 02-24-2018 10:36 PM

That’s a bummer about the broken casting. Hopefully, it won’t affect your ability to use the machine.

I love the fact that you couldn’t resist buying the sawmill blade. Next project will be finding a saw to use it with! ;-)

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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TheRusticMan

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#19 posted 02-24-2018 10:41 PM

Ya I’m just going to have to try and work with it. The saw mill blade was too cool to pass up. Maybe one day I’ll put it to work, until then it’s going on the wall in my shop.

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TheFridge

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#20 posted 02-24-2018 10:57 PM

I wouldn’t worry about the casting

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TheRusticMan

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#21 posted 02-26-2018 02:01 AM

So here’s an update on the jointer restoration. I started with the base, motor, and belt housing.Got them cleaned up primed and painted and reassembled.
-New 12g Power Cord
-New switch
-New Capictor (old one has a crack in it)
-New Belt



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Planeman40

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#22 posted 02-26-2018 02:05 PM

Nice restoration!!! She looks like she just rolled out of the factory! Isn’t it fun to bring back a great old machine!

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HarveyM

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#23 posted 02-26-2018 02:19 PM

Good work! Looks like your’s is missing the dust chute.
See here for one with that:
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=33926

-- Just a Duffer

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#24 posted 02-26-2018 03:03 PM

Thanks guys, excited to get her all back together and running some boards through. I’d like to get the dust chute if I can find one for a reasonable price. I saw a couple on eBay for $70-$100 almost as much as I paid for the jointer. I might end up making my own.

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dhazelton

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#25 posted 02-26-2018 06:14 PM

Yeah, you can make a chute for a few bucks worth of sheet metal. It’s a good reason to go buy a bending brake.

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TheRusticMan

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#26 posted 02-28-2018 02:08 AM

Is there a trick or hint on how to seperste to the bearing housing (RED ARROWS) from the Cutterhead shaft?

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MrUnix

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#27 posted 02-28-2018 02:51 AM

The housings should be a fairly easy slip/interference fit, while the bearings should be a press fit on the cutter head shaft. A bearing splitter should get them off easily – or you can try using some wood/plastic wedges between the cutter head and housing. If they are stubborn, you could pull the bearing/housing off the shaft as one piece and then separate the bearing from the housing after it’s off the shaft. Don’t worry about mangling the bearings as you will be replacing them anyway.

Also, a better parts diagram can be found in the manual: No. 37-220 6-inch Deluxe Jointer

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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TheRusticMan

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#28 posted 03-02-2018 12:34 AM

Thanks again Brad. Haven’t gotten around to messing with it yet but I’m gonna try tomorrow afternoon.

Another QUESTION???

So I broke everything down and painted, finally got the tables back on. Cutterhead is off. I will be replacing the knives and bearings.

What order should I proceed in. Replace the knives and then get the tables co-planer?

Or should I use the cutter head as is now and set the tables and then set the knives?

I don’t think the tables can be set co planer without the cutter head, maybe I’m wrong.

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TheRusticMan

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#29 posted 03-16-2018 12:57 AM

Finished reassembling tonight, here’s some pictures.







BEFORE:

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Ripper70

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#30 posted 03-16-2018 01:48 AM

Hard to believe that’s the same machine. Nicely done!

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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Planeman40

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#31 posted 03-16-2018 01:51 AM

Damn! What a great restoration job! I just know you are going to be happy with that nice jointer!!!

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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