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How would you do this???

by Andybb
posted 02-12-2018 07:30 PM


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pete724

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#1 posted 02-13-2018 01:18 PM

First make rods.

Round, square, hex, diamond, etc.

Then slice off the buttons.

Similar procedure to this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW5r4gVrtZQ

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ScottM

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#2 posted 02-13-2018 01:22 PM

Just thinking about all that small tedious sanding gives me the shakes…. :)

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Tennessee

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#3 posted 02-13-2018 01:49 PM

Here’s my advice:
Have him take a look at the number of stores on Etsy selling earrings, then wooden ones. My guess is he might find it a bit daunting.

I took a look:
Six separate categories of wooden earrings.
60 items displayed per page.
250+ pages.
Hundreds of dealers, if not thousands.

Das a lot of earrings!
Good luck…

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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jonah

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#4 posted 02-13-2018 03:13 PM

I would not spend much of anything trying to compete on Etsy. There’s inevitably going to be some Chinese seller making whatever you’re making at a fifth the cost and selling it for half what you can sell it for.

Etsy is not a way to make a living.

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Andybb

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#5 posted 02-13-2018 06:03 PM


First make rods.
Round, square, hex, diamond, etc.
Then slice off the buttons.
Similar procedure to this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW5r4gVrtZQ
- pete724

EXCELLENT! Thanks. That gives me some ideas. Turn the round ones on the lathe. Slice the rods like carrots on the band saw.


Just thinking about all that small tedious sanding gives me the shakes…. :)
- ScottM

Yeah, me too. I’m thinking that once I get them cut I’m gonna try putting them in a tupperware container filled with sand, wrap that in bubble wrap and let it tumble in the dryer for a while.


I would not spend much of anything trying to compete on Etsy. There s inevitably going to be some Chinese seller making whatever you re making at a fifth the cost and selling it for half what you can sell it for.
Etsy is not a way to make a living.
- jonah

My son is getting an MBA at USC and wants to set this up. Dealing with suppliers (me), demand, marketing, production costs, shipping, invoicing etc. Even if the effort fails he gains the experience. He has no intention of earning a living at this. If any of you have adult children you will understand that any excuse I can use to keep in touch with him when he is over a thousand miles away is priceless, so I don’t care if he wants to market pig shit in a plastic bag, I’m gonna do it. Just the fact that he asked for my help is worth it to me. :-)

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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William Shelley

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#6 posted 02-13-2018 06:13 PM

If it’s “practice” for running a business, why not go for a product that is less tedious to make, like cutting boards / serving trays, or even coasters. Tedium = burnout, quickly.

Wooden earrings just seems like such a niche product. Even in Portland where 1/3rd of the population seems to have their ears gaged with those huge rings and stuff, I don’t see anyone wearing wooden earrings.

-- Woodworking from an engineer's perspective

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SawDat

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#7 posted 02-13-2018 06:29 PM



First make rods.
Round, square, hex, diamond, etc.
Then slice off the buttons.
- pete724

There may be a problem with that technique. You will end up with all endgrain showing on the earrings. Not what the samples show.

Just something to watch for.

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Andybb

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#8 posted 02-13-2018 06:38 PM


If it s “practice” for running a business, why not go for a product that is less tedious to make, like cutting boards / serving trays, or even coasters. Tedium = burnout, quickly.

Wooden earrings just seems like such a niche product. Even in Portland where 1/3rd of the population seems to have their ears gaged with those huge rings and stuff, I don t see anyone wearing wooden earrings.

- William Shelley


It’s what he wants to do. He feels there is a niche on the huge USC campus. Right or wrong I’m just the supplier. :-)

First make rods.
Round, square, hex, diamond, etc.
Then slice off the buttons.
- pete724

There may be a problem with that technique. You will end up with all endgrain showing on the earrings. Not what the samples show.

Just something to watch for.

- SawDat

Thanks. Good point. I guess as the supplier I’m still in the R&D phase depending on what my client wants.

I bet I could even use brass tubes or rods in some of them for a little variety.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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Loren

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#9 posted 02-13-2018 07:15 PM

Stick the wood to a backer board with
tape or construction paper glued on both
sides. Cut out the pattern on a radial arm
saw. Pop the parts off with a chisel.

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Davis844

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#10 posted 02-13-2018 08:08 PM

Cut a series of squares from your stock. Make a jig to glue and clamp the squares into a blank. Shape the blank and slice as suggested by pete724. you will then have the grain showing.

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Ripper70

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#11 posted 02-13-2018 09:22 PM



...I don’t care if he wants to market pig shit in a plastic bag, I’m gonna do it. Just the fact that he asked for my help is worth it to me. :-)

- Andybb

If that’s the case, you may want to consider using eBay or Alibaba.com!

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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Andybb

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#12 posted 02-13-2018 09:38 PM


...I don t care if he wants to market pig shit in a plastic bag, I m gonna do it. Just the fact that he asked for my help is worth it to me. :-)

- Andybb

If that s the case, you may want to consider using eBay or Alibaba.com!

- Ripper70


LIke I said, I’m not considering anything. I’m strictly manufacturing. The boy is 30 years old. :-)

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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Davis844

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#13 posted 02-13-2018 09:41 PM

...I don t care if he wants to market pig shit in a plastic bag, I m gonna do it. Just the fact that he asked for my help is worth it to me. :-)

- Andybb

Totally agree. The important thing is not how much money he will make; It’s just give him the help he requested;-)

- Ripper70


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RobHannon

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#14 posted 02-13-2018 09:50 PM

I would go with the advice pete724 and Davis844 gave over getting involved with a cheap CNC or laser cutter. Too much potential for frustration with a cheap unit, especially if you are also learning how to operate it.

I also would not get discouraged by how flooded the market is. If he is doing this as a learning exercise that is a very real hurdle to gain experience with. If you end up with a bunch of earrings that don’t sell, turn them into cuff-links and try again. Turning a mistake into something else is part of any creative endeavor and often a rewarding one. And if not a single thing gets sold and you get quality time and memories with your son, money well spent.

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Andybb

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#15 posted 02-14-2018 03:39 AM

Loren and Davis844,(welcome to lj’s) not sure what you mean, even though I don’t have a RAS. Trying to understand.


Stick the wood to a backer board with
tape or construction paper glued on both
sides. Cut out the pattern on a radial arm
saw. Pop the parts off with a chisel.
- Loren


Cut a series of squares from your stock. Make a jig to glue and clamp the squares into a blank. Shape the blank and slice as suggested by pete724. you will then have the grain showing.

- Davis844


-- Andy - Seattle USA

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woodbutcherbynight

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#16 posted 02-14-2018 05:07 AM


I don t care if he wants to market pig shit in a plastic bag, I m gonna do it.

- Andybb

ROFLMAO

My hat is off to you man, you are dedicated.

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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MikeB_UK

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#17 posted 02-14-2018 09:39 AM


If it s “practice” for running a business, why not go for a product that is less tedious to make, like cutting boards / serving trays, or even coasters. Tedium = burnout, quickly.

Wooden earrings just seems like such a niche product. Even in Portland where 1/3rd of the population seems to have their ears gaged with those huge rings and stuff, I don t see anyone wearing wooden earrings.

- William Shelley

If the idea is just for business practice then you want something that can be produced quickly and fairly cheaply, ideally with a decent markup on materials.

Wooden earrings seem like a reasonable idea.

+1 on making a blank in the right shape and slicing it.

-- If I say I'll fix something around the house I will, there is no use nagging about it every 6 months.

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pete724

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#18 posted 02-14-2018 01:17 PM


First make rods.
Round, square, hex, diamond, etc.
Then slice off the buttons.
- pete724

There may be a problem with that technique. You will end up with all endgrain showing on the earrings. Not what the samples show.

Just something to watch for.

- SawDat

Depends how you build the “rods” doesn’t it?

Nothing says you have to have endgrain on the “end” of a wooden rod.

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trsnider

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#19 posted 11-23-2019 03:27 AM

late to the party here. I’ve been on etsy for about a year trying to see bread boards, pizza peels, and animal banks. So far I’ve made 12 sales. 1 bread board, 3 peels, and 8 animals. My boards show up in the 100s or more of a search. Noone is going to go through and find my boards. I had 2 inquiries: make me 3 bear banks before Christmas—no answer bank, make me a custom board – replied but no answer back. I’ve had a frustrating experience. I’m letting all my stuff expire and then closing my shop. Craft sales aren’t much better. My shop name is foursonswoodworking if you’re interested in looking at it.

My tags match the tags of stuff on page one. I’m doing “free” shipping (a money loser). …..

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WoodenDreams

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#20 posted 11-23-2019 04:26 AM

don’t plan on selling things on etsy for a living. Most spend a lot of effort with no real satisfying results. I’d be making a lot of calls to find or locate all the craft shows, flea markets, souvenir shops, etc. in your area. Also ask the vendors at these events, where are the other events. you may not realize how many there are in your area.

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Andybb

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#21 posted 11-23-2019 04:51 AM

Sorry. That was 2 years ago. He’s now got his MBA from USC and is making $200K a year designing cannabis oil extraction facilities. :-)

I have no delusions in, nor interest of trying to earn a living on Etsy.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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wildwoodbybrianjohns

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#22 posted 11-23-2019 08:16 AM

There are about a dozen or so alternatives to Etsy that are similar platforms, and not so clogged with junk. There is one or two, where you have to submit what youd like to list for sale, and a members board approves or disapproves your membership. They each have various ways of gaining their commision, but there is one Ive heard about that only collects if you sell. A simple google-search will find them for you.

-- Wildwood by Brian Johns: The Big Bang: Nothing - exploded into Everything. Thanks to Nothing.

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wildwoodbybrianjohns

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#23 posted 11-23-2019 12:14 PM

Sorry, old thread, didnt notice till now…................

-- Wildwood by Brian Johns: The Big Bang: Nothing - exploded into Everything. Thanks to Nothing.

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becikeja

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#24 posted 11-23-2019 12:48 PM

I recall a company that entered the over saturated home coffee market with a 50 cent per cup price model. Everyone said it would never work. Last I looked Keurig was doing pretty well.

Don’t let competition scare you. Competition only confirms there is a market for it. But you do need to find a unique marketing campaign.

Go for it. Good luck.

-- Don't outsmart your common sense

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CL810

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#25 posted 11-23-2019 01:36 PM

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-- "The only limits to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today." - FDR

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Nubsnstubs

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#26 posted 11-23-2019 03:13 PM



Sorry. That was 2 years ago. He s now got his MBA from USC and is making $200K a year designing cannabis oil extraction facilities. :-)

I have no delusions in, nor interest of trying to earn a living on Etsy.

- Andybb


So, Andy, did you ever get around to starting this? If you did, how long did you do it in the 2 years you mentioned? ............ Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson) www.woodturnerstools.com

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