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looking for a drill press ,question about jet

by 1201
posted 01-31-2018 03:19 AM


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woodbutcherbynight

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#1 posted 01-31-2018 04:15 AM

I have this drill press in my shop, since late 90’s. Works fine never had any issues. As for having a floor model verses bench, I have the original 8 inch Delta I first bought in early 90’s. Having both allows me to have the smaller one set up for pilot holes with a 1/8 th bit and to do the occasional metal work with.

New JETS I looked up start around $800, some were at $1400. If you have no specific need, or have no intention of using it much a benchtop might be a good idea. Hard to say as I have no idea what projects you do. Once I am done with my twin table saw build I intend to get another benchtop, 12” WEN as an upgrade. Sells for $250 ish at the borg. Unless I run across a CL one cheaper.

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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johnstoneb

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#2 posted 01-31-2018 04:20 AM

That is basically a delta clone. Good drill press changing speeds can get old at times. I have a Delta looks almost identical to that one. Its been a good drill press for the 40some years I have owned it. I would go with floor model over a bench. You can drill into much bigger items and they take up very little floor space. You probably have more floor space than bench space.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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msinc

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#3 posted 01-31-2018 10:01 AM

This is a good question and when it comes to drill presses I have been around many. There are two things I will say, first, to the floor or bench question…that depends on how big of work you might have to do with it. Nothing wrong with a bench type at all, except maybe that it will eat up some of your valuable bench space. Then again a floor press will take up floor space, so maybe it gets down to which one you have more of.
The one thing I personally look for in a drill press of any kind is the depth stop. You don’t use it all the time, but when you do it needs to be easy, accurate and repeatable. There are some depth stops that appear to be made with getting it out the door as fast and as cheap as possible. You do not want that type. I like the screw type with the double nuts. Arguably the worst ones have to be those stupid spring loaded vertical drum things that you spin….good example of just something to call a depth stop. Not sure how anyone is supposed to get that rig to repeat.

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Richard Lee

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#4 posted 01-31-2018 11:56 AM

I have an older made in Japan bench top Jet, wouldnt trade for anything.
Nicely made and accurate . I also have a older floor model Delta Rockwell ,use them both .
All depends on what im drilling.

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Redoak49

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#5 posted 01-31-2018 12:09 PM

I had this drill press for a number of years and had an issue with the quill being loose in the head. Check the run out of it before you buy. Other than the quill issue, it was a good drill press. Check the prices of new ones as they are about $650 and I think the asking price for a used one is a bit high.

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HorizontalMike

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#6 posted 01-31-2018 12:29 PM

FWIW, I put up with an 8in DP for over 20yr. I made do by making a variety of jigs when I needed something bigger. I also burnt up a lot of bits since I did not have the ability to adjust speed-to-need. All said and done, I finally bit the bullet and bought the largest DP available, a 20in 12-speed Grizzly.

I sweat bullets for years before doing this, and it was only when I got the very rare 10% OFF Grizzly offer/number that I moved on it. BUY the biggest DP you can, even if you “think” you really don’t need something that big. WHY? Because it makes even the smallest of jobs that much easier. That and remember that you will be stuck with your DP decision for decades to come.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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PaulHWood

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#7 posted 01-31-2018 12:34 PM

My concern is that Jet parts are really expensive. I have a used Grizzly band saw and was avle to pick up a few missing broken parts for around $20. ought a used Jet 17 inch drill press and parts needed were over a $100. bolts at like a few dollars compared to less than a dollar for grizzly bolts.

-- -Paul, South Carolina Structural Engineer by trade, Crappy Woodworker by choice

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Steve

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#8 posted 01-31-2018 01:51 PM

I’ve been looking at drill presses as well. Is the PC from Lowes still worth it for the money? After a coupon, it’s basically $360 if you can find one in store.

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1201

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#9 posted 01-31-2018 03:42 PM

guys THANKS !!! so much for the replies. I appreciate the education and insight.

so Ive decided that I do want a floor model.

I was able to negotiate with the seller to $280 and Im supposed to pick it up today about an hour and a half away.

BUT,
the seller was not the original owner. he claims he bought it along with other tools at an estate sale.

so,
I saw these two models and want to get your insight if either of these would be a better buy
1.5hp , 6” travel 16” klutch model for $550
https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200659141_200659141

https://www.lowes.com/pd/PORTER-CABLE-8-Amp-12-Speed-Floor-Drill-Press/1000132463
3/4 hp 4” travel 15”

its in stock at my local lowes so I don’t have a 3 hour drive to get it.

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Lazyman

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#10 posted 01-31-2018 03:56 PM

Personally, of those 2, I would want the variable speed versus the 12 speed. I don’t know anything about how well either of those work but it can be a bit of a pain to change the belt between pulleys to get the different speeds On DPs like the PC. The Klutch also has a 1.5 HP vs. 1 HP motor on the PC.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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JayT

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#11 posted 01-31-2018 04:03 PM

Variable speed is nice to have and that press has lots of other nice features. Biggest issue with that VS press is the lowest speed is only 600 rpm. For several woodworking tasks, such as using larger forstner bits, that is simply too fast. You really need something that can get down to the 250 rpm range.

Changing belts is an inconvenience, using a large bit far too fast can destroy tools, wood or you. The measure of safety is worth a lot of belt changing to me.

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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1201

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#12 posted 01-31-2018 06:23 PM



Variable speed is nice to have and that press has lots of other nice features. Biggest issue with that VS press is the lowest speed is only 600 rpm. For several woodworking tasks, such as using larger forstner bits, that is simply too fast. You really need something that can get down to the 250 rpm range.

Changing belts is an inconvenience, using a large bit far too fast can destroy tools, wood or you. The measure of safety is worth a lot of belt changing to me.

- JayT

thanks for that insight.
so how about this

https://www.harborfreight.com/12-speed-floor-production-drill-press-39955.html
it only has 4” of stroke but minimum rpm is slower and it still has 1.5 nominal hp.

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1201

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#13 posted 01-31-2018 08:21 PM



Personally, of those 2, I would want the variable speed versus the 12 speed. I don t know anything about how well either of those work but it can be a bit of a pain to change the belt between pulleys to get the different speeds On DPs like the PC. The Klutch also has a 1.5 HP vs. 1 HP motor on the PC.

- Lazyman

thanks for the insight. what are your thoughts on the 600 rpm min speed?
thanks

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JayT

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#14 posted 01-31-2018 08:53 PM

Variable speed is nice to have and that press has lots of other nice features. Biggest issue with that VS press is the lowest speed is only 600 rpm. For several woodworking tasks, such as using larger forstner bits, that is simply too fast. You really need something that can get down to the 250 rpm range.

Changing belts is an inconvenience, using a large bit far too fast can destroy tools, wood or you. The measure of safety is worth a lot of belt changing to me.

- JayT

thanks for that insight.
so how about this

https://www.harborfreight.com/12-speed-floor-production-drill-press-39955.html
it only has 4” of stroke but minimum rpm is slower and it still has 1.5 nominal hp.

- 1201

I’d much rather have the used JET. At $500 budget, you are not going to get everything in a drill press, so will have to decide what features you need and what you can live without.

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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1201

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#15 posted 02-01-2018 12:30 AM

ok thanks so much for the advice.

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Lazyman

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#16 posted 02-01-2018 03:26 AM

I didn’t notice that the minimum speed was 600rpm. That definitely high for forstner bits over about 1 3/8” especially for hardwood. A 1-1/2” to 2” bit in maple should probably be closer to 250 so you might be forced to use a hole saw for larger holes.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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FancyShoes

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#17 posted 02-01-2018 04:09 AM

I have picked up a crap ton of drill presses at auctions. Some really nice cintage delta to one of my newest greenlee. The greenlee cost me $175 big nice drill press. Most of the delta ones I have picked up from $25-$150. Sold many of them for around $250-$400.

I dislike retail pricing, and used machines will hold that used price better than new model holding retail price. Good luck.

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go4tech

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#18 posted 02-01-2018 04:22 AM

When I was looking for a Drill Press, almost purchased the Harbor Freight 16 speed version. (Recall that some like it. Some report it takes an effort to get it setup right). Looked at it a the local HF multiple times. Just could not bring myself to pull the trigger.

Ended up getting an old JET JDM14M, 16 speed off of CL. One of my better finds. Took time to recondition. Has a nice range of speeds. Down to 200 and up to 3630. Has the twin nut depth stop feature, noted above, which was desired (Really glad to have it).

Echoing the above comments, if you work covers a large range of project materials and bits, the speed range is a must have for your safety.

Depending on your location, CL can be your best store.

Good hunting!

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TheFridge

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#19 posted 02-01-2018 04:42 AM

I gotta 20” Delta that I rebuilt for about 400$ total. 22”x 22” table. Massive. Love it.

Had the porter cable. About as solid a DP as you’ll find. They have crappy arbor and chucks but their support has been great from what I hear.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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LittleShaver

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#20 posted 02-01-2018 01:11 PM

I bought the PC from Lowes about a year ago. Works great and I find I use it way more than I expected to. I had previously had a HF bench top that I abused for years. Glad to see it go away. I would definitely recommend you get the largest you can afford. It will be around for years and can do more than you think.

-- Sawdust Maker

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1201

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#21 posted 02-01-2018 02:19 PM

thanks a lot guys.

I think Im going to wait and either find a good used one on craigslist, or try to find something like the Porter Cable on sale.

My local craigslist seems to want to give you $20 off of new price and they think that’s a deal.

I’ll keep looking.

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