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magazine subs

by Howie
posted 09-08-2010 01:34 AM


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Tomoose

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#1 posted 09-08-2010 01:45 AM

I have the same problem and not just with wood magazines – car mags do the same thing. I almost always wait until 1 or 2 issues to go, and many times that is when the best offer comes in, too.

-- “I am always doing that which I cannot do, in order that I may learn how to do it.” Pablo Picasso

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#2 posted 09-08-2010 01:47 AM

Man, you have really touched on a pet peeve of mine.
I get the same monkey business, and I intentionally renewed my subscriptions (same as you, 4 or 5 at least) for two years to avoid this stuff.
I’ve called them up & told them to check their subscription records and I get a “so what” attitude and a suggestion to discard the renewal notices.
With as much really good content on the internet and other sources available, I’m considering letting them expire and not renew them.
A TON of it is all just repeats anyway.

Thanks for the post Howie.
You are right on the money!

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OttoH

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#3 posted 09-08-2010 01:53 AM

If it comes with a postage paid card or envelope, I usually write “No Thank You” on it and mail it back so they pay the price for harassing me early.

-- I am responsible for how I respond to everything in my life - - Deadwood SD

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Allison

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#4 posted 09-08-2010 07:15 AM

I too have a pet peeve with this problem. I subscribed to several wood and other mags and I got so tired of the renewal deals I now only subscribe to 3 mags. What’s worse is when you subscribe and pay for it via internet. They just charge you again when the subscription is up. One of these mags is a sponsor of this sight. It totally screwed up my checking account and on top of that it was at the beginning of December! The month I need the money more than anything. Like Woodwrecker said above, we woodworkers can get just about anything we want on the internet for free.

-- Allison, Northeastern Ca. Remember, Amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic!

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#5 posted 09-08-2010 03:27 PM

Yup … this is annoying, Especially the ones that don’t put the expiration date on the mailing label.

I keep an Excel sheet that lists the magazine, subscription expiration date, etc.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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NBeener

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#6 posted 09-08-2010 03:40 PM

IME, the renewal “offers” they mail TO you—the subscriber—are rarely a better deal than the stupid insert subscription cards—the annoying ones that fall out of the magazine, while you flip through the pages.

-- -- Neil

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Richard Dunlap

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#7 posted 09-08-2010 03:51 PM

This is the very reason I decided to NOT renew any of my 5 magazine subscriptions!!!!!

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Howie

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#8 posted 09-08-2010 06:17 PM

I wonder if any of the magazine publishers are reading this and maybe taking a hint? They could save a lot of money on postage and paper not to mention the trees that made the paper.

-- Life is good.

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CharlieM1958

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#9 posted 09-08-2010 06:35 PM

Wood Magazine sent me a renewal notice, and I returned it with a check for payment. When my check still had not cleared two months later I sent them an email, to which they never responded. I wasn’t going to go through the trouble sand expense of stopping payment 0n a $20 check, so I just added it back to my balance and forgot about it.

2nd pet peeve: When you can’t figure out from the label just when your subscription expires.

3rd pet peeve: Most woodworking magazines only come out every other month, but yet they all hit my mailbox within a few days of each other.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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NBeener

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#10 posted 09-08-2010 07:08 PM

‘nother thing I’ve seen … though … not in ww mags, that I can recall:

My wife will frequently get an issue or two of a magazine to which she never subscribed. In the 2nd or 3rd month, she’ll get an “urgent” renewal notice—implying that HER subscription was running out.

I’ve actually contacted an Attorney General or two, about this.

Yes, I DO have that much time on my hands, but … it’s not really that. I just … don’t like this sort of white-collar criminal any more than the idiot who breaks into my car and steals my stereo ;-)

-- -- Neil

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bhack

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#11 posted 09-08-2010 07:27 PM

Don’t subscribe to any. Info is on the internet or go to Barnes and Noble and read them there.

-- Bill - If I knew GRANDKIDS were so much fun I would have had them first.

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#12 posted 09-08-2010 07:41 PM

Neil
Got news for you, today’s mode of business promotes white collar criminals – this is America bud! :-)

To sign up or inquire about almost anything brings you a flood of products and services that annoy you.
Magazine subscriptions make me sick, you can’t get them off your back, so mine are all cancelled, but still the publishers keep sending me deals on mags and books. :-(
If a mag was worth its salt, it would sell on its merit, so you can only conclude that the fervor of pressure subscriptions is because they are not that good. Besides I don’t want to pay to see mostly advertisements.

But as I said, this is the way business seems to be done today. How many of you guys out there have ended up with crap you were coerced into buying?

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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Tom Coster

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#13 posted 09-08-2010 07:54 PM

I’m with Otto! Stuff junk mail into their return envelope. Bog them down so their empolyee having to sift thru junk just like we have to.

-- Tom, MI, SC

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#14 posted 09-08-2010 08:13 PM

When I get a bill in the mail, I used to pay it with out thinking about it. I am now paid up to somewhere into 2018-19 on 4 WW mags. lol When I realized this, I called them and told them to not send me any more bills until the last issue. This works. I now only receive 1 or 2 unsolicited bills a month in the mail, with Consumers Report being the worst.

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#15 posted 09-08-2010 08:33 PM

Makes me mad as heck! I think I’ll ditch a couple of the WW mags next time they come due. After about 10 years of subscriptions, they have all started repeating themselves.

Am thinking that I just need to stop them all and only buy ones I see as interesting at the store.

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#16 posted 09-08-2010 08:33 PM

with wood magazine i seem to get 2 years for 28 bucks. Then I have to go hunting for the bucks. LOL

-- www.carvingandturningsbyrick.com, Rick Kruse, Grand Rapids, MI

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mvflaim

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#17 posted 09-08-2010 10:25 PM

Worse yet is when you let a subscription expire, they call you every month asking you to rejoin. Some telemarketer calls and starts blabbing for three minutes before you can get a word in and always tries to get you to say the word “yes”. Then when they send you the subscription bill they claim they have you on tape saying “Yes” I want the subscription. I forget which magazine does that but I hang up everytime they call me and tell them not to call back.

Personally I think I’m done with WW magazines. I just got my bill for Fine Woodworking and they want either $36.00 per year or $87.00 for three. I’m not paying that much money to have tool reviews thrown in my face every month. Even Pop Wood is getting old with their constant building of a workbench in every issue.

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CyBorge

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#18 posted 09-08-2010 11:13 PM

Someone gave me a two year subscription to a magazine for my birthday a couple months ago. I received a “renew now!” notice before I even received the first issue. Now that’s timely!

-- "How can I be lost if I've got nowhere to go?"

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Kindlingmaker

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#19 posted 09-08-2010 11:19 PM

I think I have paid for the next four or five years on some by not paying attention top the expiration date on the mag’s. What if I just throw every notice I get away and let them all run out? Dang I do like them but…

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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#20 posted 09-08-2010 11:21 PM

mvflaim, let me give you a tip about telemarketing calls. It takes about three seconds for the computer to recognize someone answered, activate the screen on the next available telemarketer, and for that telemarketer to come on the line. Any normal person says “hello” about a second after you do. I just say hello and then count one, two and hang up. Any legitimate recorded message will identify itself on caller ID.

As for subscription renewals, any magazine I’ve subscribed to will continue send two or three more issues after it expires. I just wait for the renewal that says my subscription has already expired and then renew. I’ve never missed an issue doing that.

-- Failure is the road to success if you learn to learn from your mistakes - Vince, Greenville, SC

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Allison

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#21 posted 09-09-2010 01:11 AM

I agree with Skarp above,I have to say for us scrollers and intarsia nuts like myself, you can never get enough of Creative Wood works and Crafts. Not only does it have wonderful articles but it always has 20 to 30 free patterns! Yup I love that magazine. And ya know? they never send all those renew now notices.

-- Allison, Northeastern Ca. Remember, Amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic!

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OttoH

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#22 posted 09-09-2010 01:18 AM

from CBS Newsman Andy Rooney

Junk Mail Help:
When you get ‘ads’ enclosed with your phone or utility bill, return these ‘ads’ with your payment. Let the sending companies throw their own junk mail away.

When you get those ‘pre-approved’ letters in the mail for everything from credit cards to 2nd mortgages and similar type junk, do not throw away the return envelope.

Most of these come with postage-paid return envelopes, right? It costs them more than the regular 41 cents postage ‘IF’ and when they receive them back..

It costs them nothing if you throw them away! The postage was around 50 cents before the last increase and it is according to the weight. In that case, why not get rid of some of your other junk mail and put it in these cool little, postage-paid return envelopes.

Another of Andy Rooney’s (60 minutes) ideas:

Send an ad for your local chimney cleaner to American Express. Send a pizza coupon to Citibank… If you didn’t get anything else that day, then just send them their blank application back!
If you want to remain anonymous, just make sure your name isn’t on anything you send them.

You can even send the envelope back empty if you want to just to keep them guessing! It still costs them 41 cents.

The banks and credit card companies are currently getting a lot of their own junk back in the mail, but folks, we need to OVERWHELM them. Let’s let them know what it’s like to get lots of junk mail, and best of all they’re paying for it…Twice!

Let’s help keep our postal service busy since they are saying that e-mail is cutting into their business profits, and that’s why they need to increase postage costs again You get the idea !

If enough people follow these tips, it will work——I have been doing this for years, and I get very little junk mail anymore.

-- I am responsible for how I respond to everything in my life - - Deadwood SD

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Howie

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#23 posted 09-09-2010 01:31 AM

Wow! Definitely touched some nerves with this one. I certainly don’t feel like a grumpy old man now (LOL)
I agree about the content of the mags anymore. While I still have subs to several I am dropping them off when they expire. When I first got into woodworking I devoured the magazines for their content. Now, like several others said, they are redundant. I do use the local library and am seeing less and less use for the mags. I can always peruse them at Barnes and Noble and if I like buy that copy. As far as FWW is concerned they are definitely pricing themselves out of business.

-- Life is good.

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dmorrison

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#24 posted 09-09-2010 01:34 AM

I have to agree with araldite, I wait until the subscription is past due. That is usually when they give you the best discount on the subscription if they do it at all.

Dave

PS also the pre-paid envelops can be glued to a heavy object such as a brick. They pay by the weight.

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#25 posted 09-09-2010 01:41 AM

I agree; let’s all send junk mail. Woo Hoo

-- Luke 23: 42-43

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#26 posted 09-09-2010 02:01 AM

Wow- glad I don’t get any magazines.. This discussion has given me the vapors. :)

-- Homer : "Oh, and how is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain."

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#27 posted 09-09-2010 02:11 AM

I gave my 2c worth above on subscriptions, but it reminded me of something we did some years back.
In our work group we had one of those obnoxious twits, you know, done everything, been everywhere, knows everything etc, etc. This guy was a real pain so being this was on the “other side of the pond” where revenge is tolerated, this guy was setup by the other guys.
They filled in all sorts of those “request information” cards that fall out of mags with his name and address. They sent a lot and the guy went crazy with all the mail, offers and house calls he received, and he never knew how he got them. Some of the stuff was outrageous, a cemetery plot, washer dryer demo at his house, a dating service, increase the size of your John Thomas, Balding treatments and a request to join the military. He had so much stuff arriving at his house for trials and subscriptions – even a gay magazine.
We had a lot of fun when he told us what he was getting and he asked why businesses had singled him out, to which we all replied “it must be because they recognize your importance. lol Good old days.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#28 posted 09-09-2010 02:42 AM

Excellent, Roger…. excellent!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#29 posted 09-09-2010 03:57 PM

JorgeG—When it comes to sending Martin a donation, I could not agree more!

For me, LJ’s is both valuable and entertaining. And, yes, I am a donor.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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