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Has Danish Oil Changed?

by Steve
posted 01-17-2018 05:07 PM


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AESamuel

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#1 posted 01-17-2018 07:21 PM

Just dilute it with some mineral spirits and that will get the viscosity you want!

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#2 posted 01-17-2018 07:56 PM

Out here in California, all of the finishes have new formulas. Even mineral spirits that AESamuel suggests as a thinner are different. And many of them only seem to be available in small containers.

I think it is an issue that is unique to California, but the manufacturers might simplify their inventory by using the CA formula for everyone.

-- Steve

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#3 posted 01-17-2018 08:06 PM

Can’t you Commifornia guys just mail order what you want instead of buying the crap that they let you have?

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#4 posted 01-17-2018 08:10 PM

Last I bought at Home Depot In Alabama was just fine a month ago.

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#5 posted 01-17-2018 08:20 PM



Can t you Commifornia guys just mail order what you want instead of buying the crap that they let you have?

- Gilley23

My operation isn’t big enough to be inspected, so in theory, yes. But, a friend who does car interiors gets regular visits from the air quality management district. And the fines can be both large and hard to fight.

I stick with what I can find at the store.

-- ~Steve

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#6 posted 01-17-2018 08:25 PM


Out here in California, all of the finishes have new formulas. Even mineral spirits that AESamuel suggests as a thinner are different. And many of them only seem to be available in small containers.

I think it is an issue that is unique to California, but the manufacturers might simplify their inventory by using the CA formula for everyone.

- Steve Peterson

Apparently, the stuff in Alabama is still kosher, so odd that there’s no mention on the package. How do they keep their inventory straight?

I’ve kinda given up on the stuff they sell as mineral spirits—no punch at all. What’s marketed as paint thinner, though, seems to work ok as a substitute.

Glad to know I’m not going nuts.

-- ~Steve

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MrUnix

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#7 posted 01-17-2018 08:48 PM

The “green” mineral spirits (aka: paint thinner) sucks. If you see on the label that you need to shake well before use, and that it’s non-flammable – run away from it fast. Not only is it really bad as a thinner, but it is a terrible cleaner as well. Here is the composition of the Crown “NXT” stuff – pay particular attention to the main ingredient :

They also have a low-VOC formula which doesn’t list water as the main ingredient, but shows it’s only 15-40% petroleum distillates and the rest ‘proprietary’ – but still says it’s non-flammable and to shake well before use. Still garbage.

Here in Florida, it’s difficult to find real mineral spirits at the big box stores, as they are all pushing the low VOC green crap. But it’s still available at paint stores, like Sherwin Williams. Just gotta check the label when you buy it, and look for:

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#8 posted 01-17-2018 08:57 PM

I have noticed that on some Watco Natural Danish oil, but subsequent cans have been nice and thin. It felt like it was full of resin. I’m using some Cabot Marine varnish right now for a mail box and it was as thick as this stuff.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#9 posted 01-17-2018 10:13 PM

Danish Oil is kind of a generic term. There are lots of different products with varying ingredients that are labeled Danish Oil. “Tried and True” brand has less awful chemicals. As for the Watco, I haven’t noticed it being any thicker but I have noticed my home depot stopped carrying the larger cans.

If you’re having trouble with the wiping off, try just letting it dry then rubbing it down with #0000 gauge steel wool.

-- ~Walker

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#10 posted 01-17-2018 10:53 PM



Danish Oil is kind of a generic term. There are lots of different products with varying ingredients that are labeled Danish Oil. “Tried and True” brand has less awful chemicals. As for the Watco, I haven t noticed it being any thicker but I have noticed my home depot stopped carrying the larger cans.

If you re having trouble with the wiping off, try just letting it dry then rubbing it down with #0000 gauge steel wool.

- Walker

Yep, been doing a lot of that. One of my projects uses embedded rate earth magnets as door closers. It was a bear to get to fine metal particles cleaned out, but the finish came out ultra-smooth.

-- ~Steve

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#11 posted 01-17-2018 11:03 PM



Danish Oil is kind of a generic term. There are lots of different products with varying ingredients that are labeled Danish Oil. “Tried and True” brand has less awful chemicals. As for the Watco, I haven t noticed it being any thicker but I have noticed my home depot stopped carrying the larger cans.

If you re having trouble with the wiping off, try just letting it dry then rubbing it down with #0000 gauge steel wool.

- Walker


I can decant Watco Danish oil into other containers and it lasts a long time, but the thick ones I had went bad pretty quickly. Like in a few days.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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htl

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#12 posted 01-17-2018 11:59 PM

I need to restate what I said cause I was thinking the Minwax brand of Danish oil not Watco which I have never tried sorry.

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#13 posted 01-18-2018 01:32 AM


I have noticed that on some Watco Natural Danish oil, but subsequent cans have been nice and thin. It felt like it was full of resin. I m using some Cabot Marine varnish right now for a mail box and it was as thick as this stuff.

- RobS888

I wish there was some way to tell before I buy. I’ve had 3 or 4 bad cans, all Watco, in a row. I wore it down only minutes after application, which helps. Sometimes, though, it feels oily to the touch for up to a week afterwards.

-- ~Steve

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#14 posted 01-18-2018 02:25 AM

californication rules on magic elixirs is assinine, in any event, a lot of products for tile sealing, roof urethane, and regular caulking sealeants that are ok in other states are not in cali,

i was in the bay area working on the mil house, and looking for some stuff i use here in az, ole boy told me they hadn’t sold that stuff in cali in years, oh well, no wonder the paint falls off the joints over there so fast.

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#15 posted 01-18-2018 03:16 AM

As beautiful as Commifornia is as a state, I’ll never live or visit there. They’ve f’d themselves out of commission, it’s only a matter of time. If at all possible just mail order what you need and get the products as they were intended.

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Rich

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#16 posted 01-18-2018 03:57 AM

The California Prop 65 warnings are hilarious. Here’s one for one my bronze LN planes:

-- Knowledge is not skill. Knowledge plus ten thousand times is skill. -- Shinichi Suzuki

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#17 posted 01-18-2018 04:52 PM


As beautiful as Commifornia is as a state, I ll never live or visit there. They ve f d themselves out of commission, it s only a matter of time. If at all possible just mail order what you need and get the products as they were intended.

- Gilley23

As a 5th generation Californian, I’d say you should give us a visit some time. Yosemite in springtime is particularly awesome.

There are reasons we do the things we do. It’s worth thinning out the occasional can of oil so we can, y’know, actually see the mountains around us through the air.

-- ~Steve

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#18 posted 01-18-2018 05:21 PM



The California Prop 65 warnings are hilarious. Here s one for one my bronze LN planes:

- Rich


I don’t see the humor. Seems reasonable to put a caution on anything with lead.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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Rich

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#19 posted 01-18-2018 06:29 PM

I don t see the humor.

- RobS888

You wouldn’t.

-- Knowledge is not skill. Knowledge plus ten thousand times is skill. -- Shinichi Suzuki

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#20 posted 01-18-2018 07:20 PM

This month’s issue of Wood Magazine pointed out that even brass fittings marked “lead free” could still be up to 8% lead! They had to print a retraction for a bar-top fixture article that used these as dispensers. I guess alcohol can leach the lead out pretty quickly.

That being said, these stupid labels are everywhere. Turns out, if you have to label dangerous things, everything gets a label.

The California Prop 65 warnings are hilarious. Here s one for one my bronze LN planes:

- Rich

I don t see the humor. Seems reasonable to put a caution on anything with lead.

- RobS888


-- ~Steve

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#21 posted 01-19-2018 04:57 AM

The labeling requirements of California are such that most people I know regard them as ridiculous and the people who require them as fools.

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#22 posted 01-19-2018 12:34 PM


I don t see the humor.

- RobS888

You wouldn t.

- Rich


Because there wasn’t any. Just a cheap shot.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#23 posted 01-19-2018 02:28 PM

Here is a funny warning label:

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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Rich

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#24 posted 01-19-2018 02:46 PM


Here is a funny warning label:

- RobS888

That must be embarrassing for you. It’s probably a good time to quit and see a doctor.

-- Knowledge is not skill. Knowledge plus ten thousand times is skill. -- Shinichi Suzuki

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#25 posted 01-19-2018 04:49 PM


Here is a funny warning label:

- RobS888

That must be embarrassing for you. It s probably a good time to quit and see a doctor.

- Rich


Really, how childish of you.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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Rich

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#26 posted 01-19-2018 05:35 PM


Really, how childish of you.

- RobS888

You post a picture of a flaccid cigarette that made you giggle, and I’m childish? LOL.

Anyway, Rob, I’ve been leaving you alone because I don’t find you to be a worthy adversary. Threads you inject yourself into often wind up getting closed by Cricket, and it’s not fair to the OP. I’m not sure what compelled you to crawl out from under your rock and embarrass yourself with these weak comments, but I suggest you find some other venue that isn’t over your head.

-- Knowledge is not skill. Knowledge plus ten thousand times is skill. -- Shinichi Suzuki

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