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What’s up with grizzly????

by Gbnaculum
posted 01-12-2018 04:35 AM


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rbrjr1

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#1 posted 01-12-2018 03:10 PM

manufacture some anticipating demand, as those are purchased, manufacture more..

that way you dont gear up, anticipating you’ll sell 500 table saws in the first quarter of 2018 only to find that 150 sold and you’ve got a warehouse (or multiple) with a couple hundred table saws sitting in them until summer(ish)

-- only an idiot dismisses an intelligent statement because they dont know anything about the person delivering it.

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syenefarmer

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#2 posted 01-12-2018 03:25 PM

There used to be a saying in the distribution business that “you can’t sell anything from an empty wagon”, meaning you need inventory on hand or your customer will go elsewhere. Nowadays it seems that some companies are willing to gamble that the customer will purchase from that empty wagon and is content to wait. Of course, some customers aren’t willing to wait and go to the competition.

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bbasiaga

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#3 posted 01-12-2018 03:33 PM

No worker strikes in China. Not allowed.

When things come over on a boat there c an be lots of supply interruptions. Stormy seas, customs, etc.

Also I have noticed there is usually a pretty good lag when they introduce new models.

Brian

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.

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JRsgarage

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#4 posted 01-12-2018 04:45 PM

sometimes difficult to find good local agents with room in their quotas. but seeing it happens pretty often with grizzly, can be their business model.

-- “Facts don't care about your feelings.” ..., Ben Shapiro

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AlmostRetired

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#5 posted 01-12-2018 05:26 PM

I’m just glad they aren’t as bad as Jet parallel clamps.

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Breeze73

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#6 posted 01-12-2018 06:00 PM

Shiraz from Grizzly had mentioned on SawmillCreek a week or two ago that there are three issues that are affecting their supply issues. Here is a link to his response.

1) The US economy is much better now than in years past, leading to higher demand from hobbyists on non-essential items such as power tools. Similarly, with the improved economy, the demand from professionals has also increased.

2) China’s version of the EPA has been cracking down on many of the factories over there to ensure they are meeting regulations. It seems like China is trying to take ownership of their pollution problems. A definite step in the right direction. However, it appears to be inconvenient due to their lack of inventory.

3) Grizzly’s factories are swapping over to new German made CNC machines that will be making a large number of their current machines, and likely new models in the future. This is evidenced by the new G0834 16” Jointer.

That G0834 is a pretty sweet jointer, and one that I am seriously contemplating. But it is 1000lbs, and that may be too heavy since I have 2 moves planned in the next 4 years or so.

-- Breeze

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Webscape

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#7 posted 02-04-2019 08:51 AM

Grizzly has a major problem, because I called to order the G0453z planer and the G0834 jointer and there both on an extensive back order. I am going to have to buy powermatic. Didn’t want to spend the extra money but I have no choice.

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CaptainKlutz

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#8 posted 02-04-2019 04:41 PM

hmm,
If you are trying to buy the new/old planers and jointers Grizzly starting sourcing from Taiwan late last fall after the China tariffs, the issue is simply supply chain struggling to ramp up production. Taiwan factories stopped production years ago. It takes a year or more to resume full production on old tooling, and hire staff to add new production lines. Also have issue that for many years Taiwan has been using Chinese cast iron to reduce cost, and if the Taiwan mfg is not same using cast iron production capacity idled by reduction from China mfg, they also have to ramp up the cast iron shop.

When you add in fact that heavy metal is not something you can air freight to remove many weeks spent in transportation by sea; it feels like entire supply chain is standing still, despite working their arse off trying to met demand.

I once managed the addition of 6 new lines of production for a new product that took a year to install in Asia. When done, demand was still growing and we need another 8 to keep up. Customers were not happy. Competitors attempted to steal business, but couldn’t as the small machine supplier(s) we all used were not able make more machines any faster. Last I checked, German CNC tool production lead time was 18 months. My co-workers had it worse, lead time on some semiconductor mfg equipment is 2+ years after order placement. Managing supply .vs. demand when involved with large, heavy, complicated stuff is total PIA.

Give Grizzly a break. If you can’t wait, just proves how supply/demand works; IE will likely have to pay more from a supplier that can sell it to you now. Welcome to capitalism!

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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