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Hand tool wall cabinet

by JP4LSU
posted 01-11-2018 06:49 PM


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JADobson

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#1 posted 01-11-2018 06:57 PM

I think Bearkat did something like that in his amazing cabinet. You can see some of it here: http://lumberjocks.com/bearkatwood/blog/72386

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#2 posted 01-11-2018 08:57 PM

Consider also, you could build a set of drawers and doors right in to your bench under the top and have your tools right there at hand. Basically a tool cabinet at the bench .

Brian

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BlasterStumps

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#3 posted 01-11-2018 09:06 PM

After having three different wall cabinets/tool storage systems, I am a firm believer that my cabinet is a work in progress and most likely will always be. If you are just starting down the path of hand tool woodworking, I would venture a guess that you will modify, change or replace what you build at first because you will be adding tools. And maybe more than once. My point in mentioning this is to suggest that you leave room in whatever you build for those future acquisitions. Hanger systems like cleats etc., take up space. I found that doors for me are not necessary, I never closed them. On my latest cabinet, I attached wings onto the sides instead of doors.
Best of luck with the cabinet.
Mike

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mounttod

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#4 posted 01-11-2018 09:16 PM

I had a very nice large tool cabinet that I built from plans from fine woodworking. I thought I would close the doors to keep things clean but I never did. It also came off the wall a good amount which made me feel a little more cramped while at my workbench. I put a lot of time and money into it only to be less than please with it in real world use. In the end I decided that a tool wall would be much better. Basically instead of a french cleat system I put a 4×8 sheet of birch plywood on the wall, trimmed it out and then created individual holders for each tool. I really like this system and I’m now content with my tool storage solution. No doors or drawers to open. Everything is out in the open and ready to help me work. Edit*

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Ron Aylor

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#5 posted 01-11-2018 10:08 PM

I have a French cleat system consisting (currently) of six separate sections:
 
        
 
They all fit nicely in the corner behind my bench, and provide a great deal of tool storage.
 

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JP4LSU

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#6 posted 01-12-2018 12:53 AM


I think Bearkat did something like that in his amazing cabinet. You can see some of it here: http://lumberjocks.com/bearkatwood/blog/72386

- JADobson

Wow, Bearkat makes fine furniture for tool cabinets.
But I like his system. Looks creative. I was thinking of something similar.
Thanks JAD for the link.
-JP

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JP4LSU

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#7 posted 01-12-2018 12:58 AM


Consider also, you could build a set of drawers and doors right in to your bench under the top and have your tools right there at hand. Basically a tool cabinet at the bench .

Brian

- bbasiaga

How dare you Brian break Christopher Schwarz guideline of leaving the bottom empty. LOL!

I will be doing some sort of storage underneath like you suggest.

I’m currently reading Schwarz book on the workbench and that was front of mind.

-JP

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JP4LSU

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#8 posted 01-12-2018 01:06 AM



After having three different wall cabinets/tool storage systems, I am a firm believer that my cabinet is a work in progress and most likely will always be. If you are just starting down the path of hand tool woodworking, I would venture a guess that you will modify, change or replace what you build at first because you will be adding tools. And maybe more than once. My point in mentioning this is to suggest that you leave room in whatever you build for those future acquisitions. Hanger systems like cleats etc., take up space. I found that doors for me are not necessary, I never closed them. On my latest cabinet, I attached wings onto the sides instead of doors.
Best of luck with the cabinet.
Mike

- BlasterStumps

Absolutely sound advice Blaster. The French cleat seems like a good method for a.growing collection. So my thought is to make a large section or center section for growth. Then either add additional sections like Ron has done or add doors with more storage.
-JP

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JP4LSU

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#9 posted 01-12-2018 01:13 AM



I had a very nice large tool cabinet that I built from plans from fine woodworking. I thought I would close the doors to keep things clean but I never did. It also came off the wall a good amount which made me feel a little more cramped while at my workbench. I put a lot of time and money into it only to be less than please with it in real world use. In the end I decided that a tool wall would be much better. Basically instead of a french cleat system I put a 4×8 sheet of birch plywood on the wall, trimmed it out and then created individual holders for each tool. I really like this system and I m now content with my tool storage solution. No doors or drawers to open. Everything is out in the open and ready to help me work. Edit*

- mounttod

Good point about a wall storage getting in the way of the bench. I could see where 3” on the wall could make you feel cramped. Good advice.

Thanks for that input.
JP

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JP4LSU

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#10 posted 01-12-2018 01:17 AM

Nice system Ron. That is great for adding sections as you go. Thank you for posting the pictures, I appreciate it.

This might be the route I go. Just add sections as you colllect.
-JP

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#11 posted 01-12-2018 02:10 AM

How dare you Brian break Christopher Schwarz guideline of leaving the bottom empty. LOL!

I will be doing some sort of storage underneath like you suggest.

I m currently reading Schwarz book on the workbench and that was front of mind.

-JP

- JP4LSU

I read the Blue Workbenches Book and built a cabinet under the bench anyway. I’ve got more than a few blog entries here on LJs talking about tool storage (cabinet, not-wall-hung, chest). French cleat in a wall cabinet would take up too much of the depth of the piece, IMO. Maybe hold off on fitted tool holders until your tool kit is more stable?

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I suggest a read of BYo’s Tool Cabinet Manifesto, too.

BYo’s Manifesto (slightly edited for clarity):

Weight: The heaviest tools from a load bearing perspective should be closest to the wall or back of the cabinet, to decrease the moment arm acting on the wall anchor. This is less critical for a cabinet supported by a stand.

Ergonomics: The heaviest tools should reside approximately belly button height, with the lightest tools on the doors. These affect the moment arm the greatest. Think layout tools, chisels and such.

Volume: Optimizing storage volume. Directly proportional to weight and probably inversely proportional to accessibility.

Accessibility: Place frequently used tools at the ready, e.g. don’t bury your favorite square below flip out trays.

Composition: Patterns, rhythm, color and texture will have an emotional impact every time you open the doors.

Flexibility: Is there an ability to change things up as tools change?

Good luck!

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bandit571

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#12 posted 01-12-2018 02:12 AM

Not mine, but was from WOOD Magazine..

A little bit too fancy for my shop.

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JP4LSU

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#13 posted 01-12-2018 12:11 PM

Smitty,
Thank you for the pictures. That’s a beatific bench and chest undernearh. I’m reading blue CS workbench book as well. It is a revised edition.

I will definitely be putting storage under the bench. Not as nice as yours though. My skills aren’t there yet. I’m thinuking a plane till with a simple lid to keep dust out.

Very nice cabinet. It’s beautiful…I’ll go find some of your blogs. Thanks for the advice and tips.

The manifesto is sound advice. Being an airframe stress engineer most of those guidelines were not lost on me and we’re already part of my thought process.

I’m assuming most have there tools hanging in front of workbench?

My bench will be in a corner but I will need to move it out of the corner some when I’m working to get access to the end vice. I may end up putting storage on the wall on my right side which would be 90deg to the workbench. I guess as long as they are close by.
Thank you,
JP

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JP4LSU

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#14 posted 01-12-2018 12:15 PM

Bandit,
That is fine furniture there. I couldn’t store.tools in something that nice.
Thanks for the pic. I’m trying to figure out how those chisell are held in place.
-JP

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#15 posted 01-12-2018 02:17 PM

If you end up building storage under your bench, it doesn’t need to be built into the bench. I have a small chest or cabinet (I’m not sure what to call it) under my bench that provides a decent amount of storage, but is also easy to move.

My wall storage consists of plywood sheets with tools hanging on screws.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#16 posted 01-12-2018 03:55 PM

Very nice cabinet. It’s beautiful…I ll go find some of your blogs. Thanks for the advice and tips.

I’m assuming most have there tools hanging in front of workbench?

My bench will be in a corner but I will need to move it out of the corner some when I m working to get access to the end vice. I may end up putting storage on the wall on my right side which would be 90deg to the workbench. I guess as long as they are close by.

JP
- JP4LSU

JP, if you go into the blogs and find no pics, sorry. Photo(scum)Bucket had a change in policy that I’ve not recovered from yet. RE: hanging tools. That’s not something I’ve ever been excited about. Peg board is a godsend to some, to me it’s anathema. That said, if space is tight you might consider one of the Schwarz’ Dutch Tool Chest layouts. Not a lot of space required, lends itself to wheels, smaller toolset. And of course, nothing has to be ‘one solution only’ when it comes to tool storage. My workspace includes multiple locations for tools (chest, wall cabinet, saw till, bench cabinet, inspiration piece, etc. etc.) and it works for me. All commonly used tools are very close by.

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bandit571

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#17 posted 01-12-2018 04:03 PM

Last spring, I did a remodel of my shop, and ran a Blog about it. Might look around for The Dungeon Remodel…

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JP4LSU

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#18 posted 01-12-2018 04:31 PM

Thanks Smith and Bandit. I’ll do some researching on here for those blogs.

I agree Smitty, peg board is not my favorite.

All you guys have given me plenty to think about and contemplate
-JP

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#19 posted 01-12-2018 06:28 PM

They are nice practical tools cabinets.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

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