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JET 708457K JJ-6CSX Jointer

by Steve
posted 01-10-2018 02:38 PM


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Sawdust35

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#1 posted 01-10-2018 03:36 PM

OP, I’m also in NOVA area. A newer version of the Jet 6” straight knife jointer JJ-CSDX with longer beds is $949 (before shipping). Since you have the serial number for the one on CL I’d call Jet and see when it was built. What condition are the bearings, belt ($23), knives ($86), beds and dovetail ways? I’d also bring wood to try on the machine. If I was considering this machine, I wouldn’t buy for more than $500 with the mobile base assuming It runs well, and no new bearings, belts and knives are needed. Perhaps I am being cheap, but I would be concerned about having to replace motor.

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TheFridge

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#2 posted 01-10-2018 03:41 PM

That’s what I would pay for an 8”.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#3 posted 01-10-2018 03:44 PM

seems super-high. Someone was selling this exact model around here not too long ago, wanted 400. when i emailed he had already sold it, for 375. After that I bought a comparable Delta 6” for 350, which was in like new condition.

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#4 posted 01-10-2018 03:47 PM

Im in the Chicago area and have an older version of the same jointer. Several years ago I put it on CL for $400 and never got a nibble, except one guy that was PO’d because I wouldn’t take $250 for it.
Keep looking, you’ll find a lot better price than that.

-- A good day is any day that you're alive....

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Steve

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#5 posted 01-10-2018 03:53 PM

Thanks guys. I felt the price was high as well and don’t know enough yet about jointers to make a reasonable offer.

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jerkylips

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#6 posted 01-10-2018 05:42 PM

I will say this, to your comment about price variances by region. When I was looking for a jointer, I kept hearing, “you can find a good 6” jointer for $150”. I’ve never seen anything remotely close to that. The only way to really get a feel for your local market is to keep watching – if possible, find out what stuff has actually sold for.

Lots of people inflate prices on CL because they know that people will offer low – make an offer to the guy that you think is fair – see what happens.

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splintergroup

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#7 posted 01-10-2018 05:52 PM

I paid $400 for the exact same machine a number of years ago (free shipping too).

Even with inflation and all, the CL listing is a bit over the top.

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Steve

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#8 posted 01-10-2018 06:36 PM



I will say this, to your comment about price variances by region. When I was looking for a jointer, I kept hearing, “you can find a good 6” jointer for $150”. I ve never seen anything remotely close to that. The only way to really get a feel for your local market is to keep watching – if possible, find out what stuff has actually sold for.

Lots of people inflate prices on CL because they know that people will offer low – make an offer to the guy that you think is fair – see what happens.

- jerkylips

I was half tempted to offer $300. But I agree about the prices in other areas comments. Because it would appear that I’m definitely in the wrong area for good used woodworking tools.

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jerkylips

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#9 posted 01-10-2018 06:59 PM


I will say this, to your comment about price variances by region. When I was looking for a jointer, I kept hearing, “you can find a good 6” jointer for $150”. I ve never seen anything remotely close to that. The only way to really get a feel for your local market is to keep watching – if possible, find out what stuff has actually sold for.

Lots of people inflate prices on CL because they know that people will offer low – make an offer to the guy that you think is fair – see what happens.

- jerkylips

I was half tempted to offer $300. But I agree about the prices in other areas comments. Because it would appear that I m definitely in the wrong area for good used woodworking tools.

- bndawgs

I feel your pain. I looked at something a while ago that I knew was way overpriced. I offered the guy what I thought was fair – and gave links to other things showing that they were selling in that range – told him I wasn’t trying to lowball, that i thought it was a fair price. He got super p!ssed, told me not to waste his time, etc. If nothting else, contact the seller & ask what his best price is, see what he says

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AandCstyle

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#10 posted 01-10-2018 10:49 PM

bndawgs, I sold one like this, but without wheels for $500 about 10 years ago. I think everything here in NoVA is higher priced that it should be. Offer $500 and be prepared to walk away.

-- Art

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#11 posted 01-11-2018 01:07 AM

I sold a CSDX with a Byrd head in 2016 for $500; Philly suburbs. $600 for the straight knife version seems high.

Keep in mind it’s not that big, maybe you can cast a wider net and drive some distance to less expensive parts of the world. May save some money.

-- John

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Steve

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#12 posted 01-11-2018 02:17 PM

i’m going to watch it for a few days to see if it sells. I’m in no real rush to buy a jointer, since I’d put either a drill press or bandsaw ahead of it in priority. Thanks all.

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AlmostRetired

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#13 posted 01-12-2018 06:13 PM

I’m having a hard time not sending the wife for this one right now…lol.

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/tls/d/grizzly-8-long-bed-jointer/6455916330.html

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Steve

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#14 posted 01-12-2018 06:22 PM

i saw that too. But i don’t feel like messing with 220 right now.

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#15 posted 01-13-2018 12:20 AM

IMHO, If you’re even thinking about an 8”, don’t mess with a 6”, just get the 8”.

-- John

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#16 posted 01-13-2018 12:37 AM



i m going to watch it for a few days to see if it sells. I m in no real rush to buy a jointer, since I d put either a drill press or bandsaw ahead of it in priority. Thanks all.

I would like to recommend, before you hand over cash for a used jointer raise the infeed table till it’s even with the outfeed do this by eye. Then sit your straight edge that you brought with you and check that it sits evenly on both tables.If you have to adjust the infeed again to bring them true do it.
You don’t want to see a droop in the table alingnment. Or a gap in the center.If it checks out proceed to the fence and see how flat it is along its length. These are the things that matter on a jointer everything else like knives and bearing and belts are easy to replace if you have a highschool education.:)

-- Aj

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Josbo

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#17 posted 01-13-2018 12:42 AM

Think that is about what I paid for my Jet 6” (except that was about 15 years ago, and I was working for Woodworker’s Warehouse at the time). I think you can do much better for a used machine. Keep looking.

Jeff

-- The Wood doesn't talk back.

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Woodmaster1

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#18 posted 01-13-2018 04:04 AM

I bought the jet 6” long bed with quick change knives for 795 with free shipping 4 years ago. It works great I have found no need for an eight inch jointer. My woodworking club just sold one like what your looking at for 150.00.

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Steve

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#19 posted 01-13-2018 04:46 PM

I’ve been looking hard at that Cutech 8” jointer with the 31” bed and extension wings. As i look at the tiny bit of space I have available in my garage, i’m staring to lean towards bench top tools instead of floor standing ones. Not the most ideal situation, but I feel it would be the best option right now.

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schreib

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#20 posted 04-06-2018 01:23 AM

3 months later. . . I hope you folks are still around: I am looking at the SAME one in Minnesota. $800 asking price. I told him that a woodworking forum, this one, has folks discussing one in january where best offer would be $500. . . that was before I saw the woodworking club (Woodmaster) let one go for only $150! The listing has it with a spare set of knives but now he can’t find them and it also has it on a mobile base. However, I cannot tell from Steve’s listing what his unit’s asking price was nor if it had a mobile base. Can someone clue me in on those details and confirm, again, $500 max or would you go as high as $600 if in “perfect” shape? Can we get another poll?!

Finally, STEVE. . . what did you buy and was it the one from this thread?! How about an update?

-- Schreib

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Steve

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#21 posted 04-06-2018 03:22 AM

I didn’t buy the one I started the thread about. In fact, I hadn’t found a jointer until recently when I got a small little bench top delta.

Not many jointers come up for sale, so it’s been the last tool on my list for awhile.

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schreib

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#22 posted 04-06-2018 12:33 PM

Regarding the JET 708457K JJ-6CSX Jointer:

Steve, can you say how much this machine was offered at? Knowing what you know NOW, what would be your striking price if you really wanted to buy it?

-- Schreib

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Steve

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#23 posted 04-06-2018 12:43 PM


Regarding the JET 708457K JJ-6CSX Jointer:

Steve, can you say how much this machine was offered at? Knowing what you know NOW, what would be your striking price if you really wanted to buy it?

- schreib

It was originally listed at $600 with straight knives and the mobile base if I remember correctly.

Since then, I’ve only seen a handful of full size 6” jointers listed, so they don’t come up very often in my area.

And they’ve ranged from $300 to $1300.

I might pay around $400 max if I just had to have a jointer right then. But for you, it’s really going to depend on how bad you need a jointer right now.

Since I just got that Delta benchtop for $100, I’m able to now be a little more patient for something bigger.

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schreib

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#24 posted 04-06-2018 01:00 PM

thanks for the input. I will hold out for no more than $500 with this one then.

-- Schreib

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jonah

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#25 posted 04-06-2018 01:18 PM

So you’re proposing to pay $500 for a 6” jointer? That is pure insanity, no matter what they cost new now.

I’ve bought two 8” jointers (one generic Enco and one Powermatic) for less than $500 each. $500 is crazypants for a bog-standard Taiwanese 6” jointer, no matter what color it is.

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schreib

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#26 posted 04-06-2018 01:42 PM

Jonah: a couple of considerations for me are that
1) it is likely the market in the twin cities is much “thinner” for available machines than your area
2) Based on what I am seeing, 8” jointers on Craig’s list in this area are very expensive used and mostly Unavailable even.
3) My need for one may trump my ability to wait longer for a “steal” which, from my perspective, you were lucky enough to get.
4) I am waiting on info on a 6” for $250, quite old.

Regardless, your energetic response motivates me to hold off my “need” for a few weeks at least! Thanks for your input.

-- Schreib

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Steve

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#27 posted 04-06-2018 02:10 PM

If you haven’t already, set up an alert on Craigslist for any new listings for a jointer. You may get lucky and be the first one to respond to a new listing.

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#28 posted 04-06-2018 04:47 PM

I’ll add that you most definitely do have to be very patient when you’re looking for a used jointer. You’ll see a ton of those old short bed 4” and 6” Craftsman jointers, which are mostly junk. You’ll see the odd long bed 6” jointer come up for ~$150-$300, with some PM owners thinking their jointer is made of solid gold and that its worth $500 or more. Jump on the first decent long bed 6” you find for less than $350 or so. If you happen to see an 8 incher for $500 (not that uncommon IMO), jump on that as well. There are a lot of used 6” jointers out there because most people that buy them subsequently realize that they should have gotten an 8 incher.

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schreib

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#29 posted 04-06-2018 05:24 PM

Thanks for added input. Now I have another question: I am just re-entering woodworking now that I am retired and am not really going to need an 8” machine like the folks you describe above. However, am I missing something?

If my plan was to use the jointer ONLY for trimming the edges(not wide faces) of a board, what is wrong with just using a well made 4” jointer and having a higher end Planer for all face working?

-- Schreib

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Steve

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#30 posted 04-06-2018 05:56 PM

There’s ways around it, but basically if you’re going to work with any rough cut lumber, you’ll need a jointer to surface one side of the board before running it through the planer. Or you’ll have issues with both faces of the board not being parallel

People want the 8” jointer because a lot of the rough cut lumber will come in 6” widths.

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Steve

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#31 posted 04-06-2018 05:58 PM

You may want to take a look at the Cutech 8” benchtop spiral cutter with the table extensions.

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#32 posted 04-06-2018 06:10 PM

I have this same jointer, paid about $400 a number of years ago. It’s fairly vanilla, wish the beds were a tad longer but overall it works well. I never really set it up when new and I finally got back to that recently. A straight edge shows me the fence is slightly bowed with the center being about 0.015” low and the infeed table is low about 0.010” inches at the blade. It’ll take some shimming to correct and maybe a trip to the machinist to get the fence flat, but overall no big deal.

I’m always surprised when used generic tools like these actually go up in price over the years, but I suppose that is the current market. Thinking about how I use it, I’d personally stay at/below $500.

The jointer is the first step in stock preparation, it is where you establish a flat surface. The planer simply makes the stock uniform in thickness, you need that flat face to begin with.

There are ways to make a 6” jointer produce flat surfaces on wider boards, but it gets tricky. This is why many (including me) often pine for an 8” or wider.
Either way, in my experience the jointer is a “forever” tool. You’ll never wear it out so you will never get the excuse to upgrade to a larger unit because your old one wore out. Tools like these are best to buy once and not carry any regrets later.

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jonah

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#33 posted 04-07-2018 12:23 AM

A planer makes two sides of a board parallel. It doesn’t make one face of a warped board not warped, at least not unless you build a finicky sled for it and run the board through on top of it. After going through a planer in the normal way, a warped board will be equally warped on both sides.

The only tools that easily flatten and straighten the face of a warped board are jointers or hand planes. Jointers also make the jointed edge of the board perpendicular to the jointed face of the board, so that when you run it through the planer and then the table saw, you end up with a flat, square, and straight board that is perfectly rectangular.

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schreib

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#34 posted 04-08-2018 06:42 PM

thanks guys. All is perfectly clear now. Pretty obvious now that the process is explained, thanks for not laughing me off!

I should try to get an 8” jointer. . .

To help others with the same question while at the same time detailing out Steve’s recommendation for the Cutech 8” jointer I was lucky enough to hit on this video: https://toolpowers.com/best-bench-top-jointers-buying-guide/
The presenter does a great job answering the question you all did and it happens to be on a page reviewing that jointer. Lucky find. Unfortunately, that particular jointer is no longer available on Amazon, looks like available direct though.

-- Schreib

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#35 posted 01-19-2019 12:17 PM

I paid $350 for the machine a number of a few ago.
Most of the time SawLab helping me to find out new woodworking tools and Project.

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#36 posted 01-19-2019 02:57 PM

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