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Setting up new Ridgid table saw

by Ardubya
posted 10-28-2017 05:59 PM


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richardchaos

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#1 posted 10-28-2017 06:04 PM

OKAY folks…. SHOULD I?

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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richardchaos

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#2 posted 10-28-2017 06:42 PM

I would suggest taking apart whatever you have screwed together and take it back to HOME DEPOT. I bought one many years ago. I have never have a piece of equipment that was sooooo F**KED up right out of the box.

Maybe they have fixed it’s ISSUES now

First thing to do when you get it all put together… Run to the liquor store and get what ever your favorite poison is cause you are gunna need it.

Second. You hare going to have to make sure the BLADE run parallel to the miter slot… FAT CHANCE. I bought a MIC for this but there are other ways look them up on YOUTUBE.

IF THE MITER SLOT OS NOT PARALLEL WIT HTHE BLADE… TAKE IT BACK AND GET YOUR MONEY BACK….

Third if you want to keep going and try to fix this OR it is aligned… Go make/get a SWEARING/CURSING jar. When you finally get the machine to cut straight. THEN you will have enough money to send your kids to college.

fourth…. Make sure the miter slots are parallel to one another than that both of them are TRUE and STRAIGHT! I am NOIT making that up. ALSO MIC them and make sure they don’t get larger and small as you go down them?

If they are NOT again TAKE IT BACK

IF you choose to go any farther I will advise you to NOT GO ANY FARTHER…OR it could drive you to do…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRnbzkMsgmM

Many people don’t know this but the las vegas shooter was actually in his room trying to align his RIDGID table saws blade when he snapped ….


Setting up a new Ridgid R4512 table saw. Looking for advice on whether I should apply any kind of lube to the guts, like the threaded rods for blade tilt and height, at minimum.

I understand in general it s good practice to avoid wet lubricants that can attract dust and gum up the works.

Looking for some Pro suggestions. Many thanks!

- Ardubya

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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bigJohninvegas

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#3 posted 10-29-2017 05:27 AM

I have the same saw, and I too agree. take it back while you can.
If you keep it, it should be lubricated from the factory just fine.
You are going to find that the blade tracking issue is fixed, or at least mine was.
I have had it since 2013.
But the fence is a real POS.
I got lucky this last summer. And while contemplating ditching the saw at a loss and buying better. I found a Biesemeyer fence for it for $140.
I plan on writing about the upgrades here in the next week or so.
Goodluck.

-- John

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richardchaos

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#4 posted 10-29-2017 09:34 AM

BIGJOHNINVEGAS welcome to the party pal!

AS far as the fence, it’s a real nightmare of engineering. I mean GAWD. You will also find that all four of the little NUTS that are used to HOLD the upper part of the fence Parallel to the blade and miter slot are NOT HARDENED whatsoever. The are as soft as butter.’

If you plan to keep is Edsel, buy some steel bar stock and a Tap and die set of the right size so you can replace them as they strip out..

One of my missions in life is to make sure NO ONE suffers like I did buying a RIDGID tool!

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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richardchaos

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#5 posted 10-29-2017 09:37 AM

If you keep it like my retarded arse did you will find you will have invested in enough extra parts, times, headaches and money to just make it cut a straight line that you would have been better served buy spending twice as much on the next ball park competitor.

Throw away the miter gauge.

NO ITS NOT SUPPOSE to rattle LOUDLY down the miter slot.

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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kroginold

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#6 posted 10-29-2017 11:55 AM

You can spray with a dry lubricant, but not really needed at time of initial setup. By the way, I have had no issues with my saw. I did alignment at setup to 0.0002 of an inch and it has remained accurate. I did replace blade and miter gauge, but not because of any problems with stock miter gauge. I have and Incra fence that I haven’t installed yet, but for now the stock fence works well. The Incra fence will go on when I get dust collection completed for router wing.

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Holubec37

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#7 posted 10-29-2017 03:19 PM

Ardubya,

Are you seeing the same issues with the saw that has everyone complaining about it? I’m just curious if Ridgid has fixed a lot of these issues. A lot of the complaints are from a few years back.

I’m in the process of upgrading to a table saw similar to the Ridgid R4512, but I’m not 100% on which one yet. I wonder how many lemons there are to every one good saw?

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Dwain

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#8 posted 10-29-2017 03:35 PM

Many people don t know this but the las vegas shooter was actually in his room trying to align his RIDGID table saws blade when he snapped ….

We get it. You don’t like your saw. It doesn’t give you a reason to be thoughtless, much less, an a&*. You aren’t funny. Sorry to all administrators for the language, I thought it was well due here.

-- When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you CAN'T do

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bigJohninvegas

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#9 posted 10-29-2017 04:09 PM

Wow, once again I am guilty of not reading all the way to the bottom of a post.
Just adding some of my own experience with the saw.

-- John

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richardchaos

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#10 posted 10-29-2017 04:26 PM

I am confused here… Why would anyone UPGRADE a $400 table saw, A WRECK of a table saw I might add, with $800 worth of goodies????

ALSO Ardubya, watch out for this one, some don’t ever catch it then wonder why everything is off.

this saw use to have a nasty habit of changing it’s alignment to the miter slot as it is lowered and raised. By the way as far as I know there was/is not fix for that other than a new saw.

SO if you MIC out your BLADE raised up all the way and it seems solid BE CAREFUL as the blades alignment may chance when lowered..

By the way, I don’t hate all RIDGID tools… I have one of their big wet/dry shop vacs… AND IT SUCKS more than the saw! LOL!

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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richardchaos

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#11 posted 10-29-2017 04:33 PM

I will give RIDGID some credit for out of the box thinking. Does any one recall the RIDGID GRANIT TOPPED TABLE SAW.

At first thinking one would say HEY thats a great idea. Nothing is a flat and true as polished granite. Never rust either.

Unfortunately RIDGID F**KED that up to. It was a disaster.

ALSO BE ADVISED many other saws such as Craftsman Table saws ARE THESE SAWS, just with different stickers and makeup! But THESE SAWS all come off the same Assembly line in CHINA…

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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WhyMe

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#12 posted 10-29-2017 05:16 PM

I think Ardubya may not be back. He asked a simple question about lubing his saw and it’s turned into a Ridgid bashing fest.

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#13 posted 10-29-2017 07:46 PM

i take back any table saw that had guts!

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#14 posted 10-29-2017 10:00 PM


I think Ardubya may not be back. He asked a simple question about lubing his saw and it s turned into a Ridgid bashing fest.

- WhyMe


Or….... maybe he’s out taking he saw back and busy buying another. :-)

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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Ardubya

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#15 posted 10-30-2017 04:52 AM

Gentlemen, sorry for my silence. I’ve been busy assembling my Ridgid while also dealing with a very busy October. Anyway, thanks for the advice on the lube question. So today I completed the assembly and fired it up for the first time and all I can say is wow. So far it has beat my expectations on all counts.

I went with the Ridgid after assurance they fixed the well known alignment issues with their “Type II” trunnions. I must say out of the box this is one tight saw. I did have to make a minor adjustment but it’s cutting straight and holding. No issues with blade alignment so far.

Now, for a little perspective. I went through hell agonizing over what saw to buy, reading, watching videos, talking to people. After all of it i had a breakthrough. The simple truth is I’m not a professional. Yes, who wouldn’t want a $3k-$4k Jet or PowerMatic or Delta Unisaw or whatever. But I could never justify that expense. I’m not a professional, I’m just a guy who likes to tinker and make sawdust and hopefully have something nice in the end. I do it for the love of the craft, and it makes me happy. I don’t need a Rolls Royce saw, and just about anything is better than what I had.

I will always envy the really high end (and high $$) saws. Maybe one day I’ll have one. But for now, just working out of my garage, I’m just a happy hobbyist. That’s just me keeping it real.

So off I go, cautiously optimistic that the Ridgid will be a good tool for me and my needs. Plus, I still have cash in my pocket for other things. This is no slight to anyone who has had a bad experience with the Ridgid. I know many have real and valid complaints. But kudos to Ridgid for at least attempting to fix their saw.

I will report back from time to time on how my Ridgid is doing, or feel free to ask me for an update. For now I’m excited and can’t wait to tackle some of the projects I have lined up.

Thanks again everyone!

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TheFridge

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#16 posted 10-30-2017 05:07 AM

Drylube with teflon works well.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#17 posted 10-30-2017 07:59 AM

As a current owner of a SawStop PCS, and prior owner of a Ridgid R4512—let me defend the R4512. With the exception of the fence, it is a good saw. The alignment issues are way overblown nowadays.

Upgrade the fence at some point and you have a great saw.

But yeah, the fence is kind of lousy. Applying pressure to the left T while you clamp down will get you by a little bit until you realize that you basically can’t reliably lock it down square.

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richardchaos

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#18 posted 10-30-2017 09:32 AM

Before you screw the entire thing together. MIC/MEASURE the parallel of the blade to the miter slot. Look on youtube how to do that. Do it with the blade in different heights. IF IT IS NOT parallel don’t even think of tightening one more bolt! TAKE IT BACK!

TAKE IT BACK WITH COMPLETE and TOTAL MALICE and send RIDGID a BILL FOR YOUR TIME


Gentlemen, sorry for my silence. I ve been busy assembling my Ridgid while also dealing with a very busy October. Anyway, thanks for the advice on the lube question. So today I completed the assembly and fired it up for the first time and all I can say is wow. So far it has beat my expectations on all counts.

I went with the Ridgid after assurance they fixed the well known alignment issues with their “Type II” trunnions. I must say out of the box this is one tight saw. I did have to make a minor adjustment but it s cutting straight and holding. No issues with blade alignment so far.

Now, for a little perspective. I went through hell agonizing over what saw to buy, reading, watching videos, talking to people. After all of it i had a breakthrough. The simple truth is I m not a professional. Yes, who wouldn t want a $3k-$4k Jet or PowerMatic or Delta Unisaw or whatever. But I could never justify that expense. I m not a professional, I m just a guy who likes to tinker and make sawdust and hopefully have something nice in the end. I do it for the love of the craft, and it makes me happy. I don t need a Rolls Royce saw, and just about anything is better than what I had.

I will always envy the really high end (and high $$) saws. Maybe one day I ll have one. But for now, just working out of my garage, I m just a happy hobbyist. That s just me keeping it real.

So off I go, cautiously optimistic that the Ridgid will be a good tool for me and my needs. Plus, I still have cash in my pocket for other things. This is no slight to anyone who has had a bad experience with the Ridgid. I know many have real and valid complaints. But kudos to Ridgid for at least attempting to fix their saw.

I will report back from time to time on how my Ridgid is doing, or feel free to ask me for an update. For now I m excited and can t wait to tackle some of the projects I have lined up.

Thanks again everyone!

- Ardubya

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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ChefHDAN

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#19 posted 10-30-2017 12:44 PM

RW, here’s a digital hi 5 from a fellow Ridgid owner, I like my saw and get good results, one day I’m going to find a unisaw on CL close enough to my house and at the right price and time to justify it, but until then, it’s all about making sawdust!
BTW, I’ve got the 3650 fence on a TS3612, and while I check it every couple of months, it’s never gone out of true.

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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Ardubya

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#20 posted 10-30-2017 01:11 PM

ChefHDAN – love it – digital hi 5 – I’ll take it!

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#21 posted 10-30-2017 01:57 PM

Wow some of you guys need to take your meds and back away from the ledge.

@Ardubya I’ve had one of these saws for about 6 years. Sure I’d love a unisaw or a sawstop but for the money it’s been a good saw for me. If you’ve got the trunion stamped with a 2 on it you’ll be fine.

-- Trust me I'm an engineer.

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#22 posted 10-30-2017 03:19 PM

+1 on the high five. I hope you get the saw set up like you want and enjoy it for a long time to come. Do yourself a favor and build a crosscut sled fairly soon. You won’t regret it. My sled hits a stop on the side of the saw when it is at the end of a cut so that the blade doesn’t come on thru the back. I even made a sled for use with my dado set but it is for 3/4” only. I use it now and again. I made a couple zero clearance plates for mine but now they can be purchased online. Anyway, enjoy and put up a picture of the saw if you can. We likes pictures. : )
Mike

-- "I build for function first, looks second. Most times I never get around to looks." - Mike, western Colorado

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Ardubya

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#23 posted 10-30-2017 06:48 PM

@BlasterStumps – yes, sound advice. I plan on building a crosscut sled very soon. I had a nice one I built for my old Craftsman 113. I’m taking the opportunity to improve on it.

Gonna get “jiggy” wit it…

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Holubec37

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#24 posted 10-30-2017 08:00 PM

If you ve got the trunion stamped with a 2 on it you ll be fine.

Where do you find the “2”? Is it on the actual trunions, or is there something on the box that will let you know that it will have the “2” stamped on it?

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#25 posted 10-30-2017 08:06 PM

Pic by “BeeFarmer” posted 3-16-2014

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#26 posted 10-30-2017 08:27 PM


If you ve got the trunion stamped with a 2 on it you ll be fine.

Where do you find the “2”? Is it on the actual trunions, or is there something on the box that will let you know that it will have the “2” stamped on it?

- Holubec37


You have to open the box to look for it.

-- Trust me I'm an engineer.

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ppg677

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#27 posted 10-30-2017 10:42 PM



Before you screw the entire thing together. MIC/MEASURE the parallel of the blade to the miter slot. Look on youtube how to do that. Do it with the blade in different heights. IF IT IS NOT parallel don t even think of tightening one more bolt! TAKE IT BACK!

No, do not look at youtube videos. The ones I viewed were completely wrong and had me thinking my saw is bad. In reality with a new blade and properly measure heal/toe deflection at the same blade point at different blade heights, my R4512 was spot on within 0.003

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#28 posted 10-31-2017 12:15 AM


I did alignment at setup to 0.0002 of an inch and it has remained accurate.

- kroginold


You got lucky, you apparently got the saw they prepared for Lockheed Martin so they would cut the wings of their F35 to size . Rest of us have to leave with much less accurate saws.

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kroginold

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#29 posted 10-31-2017 08:59 PM

Carloz- whoops, seems I put an extra “0” in there.
Still accurate to two thousandths of in seems pretty good. And I did test with blade in all positions raised, lowered and at 45. Even used a MasterPlate to check alignment in addition to blade. I did not however use stock blade: I usually never use stock blades except on chainsaws :)

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