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$100 for all
Just wondering if anything worth restoring in this group
I cannot tell one from the other
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#3 ·
I'd have to agree with JCamp - $10 each is a fair price - you'd lose nothing and you may find a treasure gleaming in the stack. Will the seller not provide any more detail? That may be worth the effort.

I doubt that it would be much work to restore them. Nothing looks too horribly rusted, not much in the way of physical damage. No funny colors that one might expect on a cheapie plane. I'd go for it just for giggles!
 
#5 ·
If this was on EBAY I would avoid it because the shipping would cost too much to make the price worth while. Also, the photos don't show the bottoms and sides of the planes very well. Cracks and chips at the mouth basically render the planes unusable.

The wooden jack plane looks like junk. It appears to be badly checked and cracked along the grain of the wood.

There does appear to be a decent number 9 and some decent smoothing planes in the bunch but it doesn't look like any prizes are in there. Don't be afraid of rust. It's easy to remove with vinegar and it hides a lot of good cast iron.

I would say that if you can look at the lot before you pay, it might be worth pursuing. Also, there are a lot of Stanley plane parts available on EBAY for a reasonable price.
 
#6 ·
There's definitely the value there if you want to do the restorations. I see some that are easily identifiable as Stanley Bailey's and most are complete.

Learn on the one with the chrome lever cap (least valuable of the lot as I see it) and then progress up to the others. The missing knob is easily replaced by buying or turning one.
 
#7 ·
What you can't see matter most and that is if the mouth corners or the heel are broken/cracked.
Top pic: big plane on left looks like it could be a Union. Smaller plane next to it might be a Stanley. Little block plane might be cool. Has a knuckle joint lever cap. Might be an 18. $100 would be a bit of a stretch for me on those. Transitional planes, well…
Mike
 
#8 ·
One more thing. If you do choose to restore these or any other quality antique planes, avoid using a wire wheel to remove surface rust and dirt. The natural grain of the iron will disappear and be replaced by a finish that will rust faster. Also, everyone will be able to tell that it was restored with a wire wheel and that makes it less desirable.
 
#13 ·
Yo Fridge,
Wire wheels have their place. PBR is awesome!

- DBDesigns
Having taken an entire semester of Material Science in engineering school, I'm finding your wire wheel argument questionable. Do you have anything to support the statement that the natural grain of the "iron" will be removed, and that that will lead to it rusting faster?

My lab work in class indicated that the only thing that will change the grain structure of steel is heat.
 
#14 ·
Here's what I'm talking about. No mechanical method will alter the molecular structure of the iron without heat. You are right about that. When the planes were sold new, they had "Grain Marks" that are in a parallel direction with the sole. If the plane body is sanded along a flat surface with sand paper taped there, like a jonter top or a tablesaw, you will get a beautiful reproduction of how it came from the original maker. The finer the grit the better. A wire wheel allows it to rust more because the microscopic dents the wheel puts in the surface add more unprotected surface area. Also, the sole of the plane depends on it's flatness to perform properly and a wire wheel does not contribute to a flat surface.

BTW, I hated my materials science class. All that crystalline structure mumbo jumbo just gave me a headache.
 
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