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#1 posted 03-29-2012 04:40 AM

LOL Grandpa, sorry to say, you just showed that you don’t really know a lot regarding Oneida, so you just keep it up. It is amusing.

That unit that is pictured when I bought it new was somewhere around $650 The comparable unit to that one today may be the V-System 1500 that lists for $1,186. Far cry from your $1895 you mentioned. Or maybe the 2 HP Super Dust Gorilla that lists for $1475 but its motor is bigger the unit pictured above.

The only one that Oneida sells for $1895 is in their Pro line, the Pro 2000 HEPA which is meant for professional shops (hence the Pro in its name) and not for the home one man shop woodworker That thing does 1973 Max. CFM! The Clear Cue only does 1442 CFM, so how can you compare them?

So try comparing apples and apples.

I’ll try and do that. The Clear Vue specs it’s CFM at 1442. That would match up to Oneida’s 2.5 HP Super Dust Gorilla HEPA which specs out at 1440 CFM and lists for $1635. That’s only $159 more then the Clear Vue. And guess what? The Oneida is constructed out of all metal, no MDF involved. Hmmm. Maybe that’s why the Oneida costs a little more. Ya think?

Ok so they’re both in the 1440 CFM range. But hey! Oneida does it with half the HP thus it uses less electricity and costs you less to run. That might be a plus. And it might also mean that Oneida has a more efficient blower assembly design and impeller design. Could it be Oneida knows what they’re doing?? Raw HP doesn’t mean more CFM

And the filter. Doesn’t really matter if it’s 4 times as big. What matters is the effective surface area of the filter material and that is a factor of how the pleats in the filter are designed. So yes the filter may be physically twice but as far as its filter area they both may be the same. Can’t tell by looking.

Now, Oneida supplies a fan curve for that cyclone, I couldn’t seem to find one for the Clear Vue. I’d like to see it to compare so if anyone knows where it is please let me know. So both cyclones spec out at he same CFM, but that doesn’t really mean much because manufacturers tend to spec out the maximum value and that doesn’t show its operating curve. So without a fan curve you don’t know if you get the CFM with it connected to 40 feet of pipe or only 2 feet of pipe. A fan curve will tell you that.

So in comparing these two cyclones, the Clear Vue and the 2.5 HP Super Dust Gorilla HEPA, I can’t tell you which is better. So I’m not going to. And I’m certainly not going to do it by how it looks or how much it cost. Get me a fan curve for the Clear Vue and I’ll be able to tell which will perform better using a given diameter and length of pipe attached.

But I will say if I’m buying something for $1500 and I can spend 10% more and get all metal construction, you can bet I wood. (Pun intended.)

And, I would wonder why it takes the Clear Vue 5HP to get the same CFM that the Oneida gets with a mere 2.5HP. That makes me think the design isn’t as good.

I’m going to try and get the fan curve for the Clear Vue and we’ll see. If they’re up front like Oneida is they will have one and provide it.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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