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Posted on Automation. Taking jobs aways from the skilled

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#1 posted 02-18-2017 06:12 PM

Where did I ever say I was against automation? I m simply pointing out what is happening and how it is getting worse. I never said anyone or any business was doing something enherantly wrong. In fact my whole point is they are doing what is right for them, even though collectively it is driving us all over a cliff.

But it s the nature of business to work this way. I m not suggesting any business should intentional operate less efficiently. There would be no point in individual businesses operating that way, as they will not be competitive.

As far as using spoons, that may make sense, IF there is nothing else the labor force could be doing. Historically, productivity improvements free up labor for other things. Though this can be disruptive for individuals, it s proven better for society as a whole.

The problem that is developing is there won t be anything for this surplus labor to do. That s an unsustainably situation. There s going to have to be a major paradigm shift in markets, labor, and the economy in general.

- clin

So you re not against automation, you re just pointing out what a monster I am for putting a guy at someone else s business out of a job. You re right that s way different.

- Logboy

I didn’t call you a monster or put any judgement on it at all. I’m just pointing out the cause and effect.

While automation can lead to a new or expanded factory, in a specific location, to the benefit of that locale, it will be at the expense of jobs overall.

Historically, new tech opens up new labor markets. I.E., no need for auto mechanics until automobiles were invented. And that’s still true to some extent now. But as machines become more capable, there will be a point where the machines can design, build, and repair the machines without us.

Short of mankind nuking itself back to the stone ages, this is going to happen. It’s only a question of when. And the estimates I’ve seen for this, it is measured in a few decades. There are huge advances occurring at breakneck speeds. We are on the cusp of having self driving vehicles . It may just be few years before there are production autos that are fully self driving. This is going to put a majority of truck, taxi, bus, and the Uber type service drivers out of work.

It will have great advantages for society as a whole, with near zero transportation accidents, DWI and texting while driving will cease to be an issue.

I agree with those pointing out that some jobs will be harder to automate, like a plumber, but these will ultimately be at risk too.

-- Clin

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