My Stabilization Station - Thanks to Curtis Seebeck at Turntex Woodworks

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Project by JR_Dog posted 09-13-2013 05:39 PM 11777 views 13 times favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch

So I thought I’d post my first stabilizing project. This is Ancient Kauri (Carbon Dated back 40,000 – 50,000 years old – with authentication card). I stabilized it with Black Alumilite dye and Cactus Juice using my new vacuum chamber all purchased from Curtis Seebeck over at Turntex Woodworks – I worked with him over the past month or so and this is what he created for me. It pulls full vacuum even with a less expensive HF vacuum pump…. takes less then 10 seconds to pull 29 inches of Mercury and it held strong for the hour to hour and 15min I had it under vacuum; until I saw no more bubbles of air evacuating the wood. After the Cactus Juice resin had occupied the previously air filled pours in the wood by getting sucked in (Or to be technical pushed in by Atmospheric Pressure after the vacuum was released) I then wrapped it in tin foil and baked it in my toaster oven at a bit above 200 degrees for an hour. After it cools down a bit I’ll shape it on the lathe and see how it comes out.

Items Used:
1. Turntex Vacuum Chamber
2. Turntex Cactus Juice Stabilizing Resin
3. Alumilite Dye (Black)
4. HF 2.5 CFM Vacuum Pump
5. Ancient Kauri Hardwood
6. 1.25 hrs In Vacuum Chamber
7. 1 hr in Toaster Oven.
8. Regular Tin Foil
9. Inexpensive Toaster Oven from Amazon

Thank you Curtis for an excellent product!

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#1 posted 09-13-2013 05:45 PM

I feel like I should clarify a bit on the pictures above… the wood in the middle is the Ancient Kauri that I just stabilized. The two on the outside are my raw Cholla Cactus before being cut, cast and stabilized; I just had them their because they’re next… and I think they’re cool for the picture.

Thank you,

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#2 posted 09-13-2013 06:05 PM

Very interesting, would be great to see a closeup of that Kauri

-- Dreaming patterns

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#3 posted 09-13-2013 06:14 PM


Until I get my bracelet finished the picture won’t do it justice. Hopefully this is a better idea; this is where I purchased it:


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#4 posted 09-13-2013 09:11 PM

Awesome! Thanks for sharing. I can picture a video clip in your future..hint hint.

By the way JR, your garage is way too organized. ;)


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#5 posted 09-13-2013 11:01 PM

Wow JR that is some kind of process. Do you have to do that for all the species of woods used for bangles or just the more porous varieties like Kauri and Cholla Cactus? Also quite amazing to see or imagine that, that ring of Kauri will go from how it looks now, kind of ugly duckling looking to transform into one of your amazingly beautiful bangles. Thanks for sharing the process…

-- Dave.......If at first you don’t succeed redefine success....

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#6 posted 09-14-2013 12:15 AM

Thank you Shannon… and I assure you… it must be the camera angle on my garage because it’s far from organized – lol.

Thank you Dave. The stabilization is not needed on all woods; but in my case with joining metal to wood on the bangles it’s best to stabilize because it’s means the wood will move that much less and stay fixed to the metal core much much better. Cocobolo, Desert Ironwood, African Blackwood… and there are more that are hard and dense enough to not need stabilization… but I still do. Gives me a better assurance they’ll stay put; plus is fun to see how they come out.

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#7 posted 09-14-2013 12:56 AM

Interesting … what kind of $$$ investment do you have in this rig?

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#8 posted 09-14-2013 03:24 AM

JR, Thanks for sharing. Got to meet Curtis and see a demo a couple of months ago. Been thinking about something like this. I had not seen the new round container.

Look forward to seeing how that bangle comes out.


-- Chris L. "Don't Dream it, Be it."- (Purveyors of Portable Fun and Fidgets)

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#9 posted 09-14-2013 05:00 AM

Gerry, I would estimate around $400 – $500 with everything but I’m sure you could go much higher than that if you wanted or needed more vacuum space, more cactus juice, and a better vacuum pump. I have to tell you though I would hesitate to spend too much money on it because the small investment I have is going to pay for itself very quickly which I much more prefer – and it does a really really good job.

Chris, I’m looking forward to finishing it as well. I’m not sure yet if I’m going to make an all wood bangle or fix this to a metal core. I’ll probably do both since I purchase enough Ancient Kauri to make about 4 or 5 bracelets.

Thanks for checking it out and the feedback

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#10 posted 09-14-2013 07:51 AM

Looking good, David! Thanks for pointing this thread out to me.

-- Curtis O. Seebeck

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#11 posted 09-14-2013 07:54 AM

is nice looking good

-- is cool

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#12 posted 09-14-2013 08:25 AM

This is really cool, and love the set up you have there. Look forward to seeing the finished project.

-- The Old Rednek Workshop

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#13 posted 09-14-2013 08:27 AM

JR, you really got us all thinking about this process. For that amount of money it is very affordable.

Thanks for the inspiration.

-- Bob, Western Australia, The Sun came up this morning, what a great start to the day. Now it's up to me to make it even better. I've cut this piece of wood 4 times and it's still too damn short.

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#14 posted 09-14-2013 02:57 PM


The post is interesting and informative. Looks like you are definitely invested in your craft. And you did include some great wood. LOL!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#15 posted 09-14-2013 03:31 PM

What goes through your mind while cutting into rare and expensive 40,000-50,000 year old wood? Be honest ;)


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