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#1 posted 11-01-2011 04:42 AM

pm …incoming

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#2 posted 11-01-2011 04:49 AM

Awesome, You really crank them out!! Looks like Chief Joseph, Sitting Bull, Geronimo and ???, Crazy Horse?

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#3 posted 11-01-2011 04:58 AM

This one looks best in natural! you do nice work

-- Erwin, Jacksonville, FL

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#4 posted 11-01-2011 05:03 AM

This is such an awesome project!!!
My 2 cents on breaking pieces…For a portrait like that I would only use baltic birch plywood. I find that it is the most stable of plywoods that I can get. It doesn’t have the voids and week spots that some of the others do. It also has way more layers then other plywoods. I believe 1/4” has 5 layers, most others would have 3. The other thing I would do is to stack cut the project, but you already do that. The extra thickness adds to the stability of the project. You also might try a different blade, some times a blade that is a bit aggressive can cause a project to break. I have this issue sometimes with reverse tooth blades and spiral blades. Also, when cutting difficult patterns sometimes I forget to pay attention to which cut I should make first so that things are supported better. A specific order can sometimes be the difference between a blowout or not. Sometimes I cut only part of a hole to make it go smoother.

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#5 posted 11-01-2011 05:29 AM

Thank you all.
Just sent a reply Grizz.
You are correct Topamax. The last one is Crazy Horse.
I agree Bearpie, the natural one looks the best on this one.
The problem I’m haveing is specifically because of voids. The plywood I’ve been getting lately is full of them. Then where there is a void, the top layer of ply will stay, but the bottom layer break out. This creates a situation then where the top layer breaks too if it’s even bumped, because there’s nothing supporting it underneath.
I know it isn’t the blade because there’s times I can cut most of the portrait with no problem. Then all of a sudden, there it is. It’s the quality of the wood that if causing me greif. That being said, Baltic Birch is the best there is for this type of work. If I had that, I guarantee there would not be a problem. It is not offered locally though and I haven’t had the cash to order any.
This brings me back to what I said before though. Because I can’t afford to order the Baltic Birch, I tried different woods and was once extremely happy with luan plywood. True there were voids, but they were always so tiny that it was not a problem. The luan I’ve been getting recently though has HUGE voids. I’m talking about circles over an inch in diameter with nothing at all except the top and bottom veneer, nothing in the middle for support. I noticed this quality control issue started at a certain time too. All the local stores ran out of luan when that recent hurricane ran up the East Coast. I am not sure how luan and the hurricane were connected, but that’s when the stores ran out around here. Ever since they restocked after that, the qualit of it has been in the crapper.


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#6 posted 11-01-2011 11:42 AM

Another beautiful cutting William! :)


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#7 posted 11-01-2011 12:20 PM

William – My 2 cents – If you are going to do such beautiful detailed work you MUST go a step further bite the bullet and get the quality material that you need for the quality of work that you do. These ain’t practice pieces. It’s admerable trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear but dude the work is worth the material.

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#8 posted 11-01-2011 12:52 PM

Great work William.

-- Have a great day.

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#9 posted 11-01-2011 01:17 PM

It’s beautiful, William.

-- helluvawreck aka Charles,

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#10 posted 11-01-2011 02:05 PM

very nice William. I wish we could bring them all back to life to get this country in order

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Keep your dust collector fed. [email protected]

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#11 posted 11-01-2011 02:30 PM

Very nice.
What finish did you use on pics 3 and 4 (and some of your other work). It gives the wood a tin-plate type of look.

-- Eric - Baltimore MD

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#12 posted 11-01-2011 03:26 PM

That’s really cool.

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#13 posted 11-01-2011 03:41 PM

Great work – I have seen that pattern in magazines and was almost tempted to try it.

If you have a Michael’s Craft store nearby, check out their offerings of BB Plywood. I find it’s fantastic for cutting as well as decent priced. You can get 1/8” pieces in 1×3’ sizes, which are perfect for about three cuttings.


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#14 posted 11-01-2011 04:00 PM

Really nice work, William.
I second Mike’s comments.
You might try QDC Hardwood
125 Parcel Dr
Jackson, MS 39204
(601) 948-1492

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#15 posted 11-01-2011 06:40 PM

I get most of my BB ply from Michaels or JoAnn Crafts, Hobby Lobby also carries it. I have a Rockler about a half hour away, but michaels is right down the road. the quality of BB is the same at both rockler and micaels, and the price is quite close. (once you factor in the gas and the fact that I never just get ply wood at rockler it is pretty even) The ply is usually in with model making stuff, sometimes the “woodworking” section.
Some of the big box stores sell 1/2” baltic birch that isn’t quite as nice as the craft stores, but still worlds better then other types. I think I could special order 1/4” bb from one of them when I asked about it, but i don’t remember the price and am not sure about the overall quality. I have been told that 1/2” is used alot in cabinet making for drawers, you might get lucky and find a cabinet shop someplace that has it.
I hope you can find better material to work with, If you can do this good with sub-par material just think of what you could do with awesome material.

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