Wrap-around Box - My First Veneering Torture

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Project by BertFlores58 posted 09-12-2011 03:17 PM 5016 views 7 times favorited 24 comments Add to Favorites Watch

The original name: POINT TO POINT as in my blog series on how I designed and up to final work. Take a time to back track on it if you have not followed it. Quite interesting because the posts were fresh from the time I made it till I finished.

This is made of veneers that are leftovers and I dont have any idea what wood are they. The base board is a Malaysian brown specie of tropical Lauan (not sure because it is also recycled). The lips are medium hard… the Balitadtad – a local wood that I ask from a junkshop confirming the wood came from a hundred year old house.
Therefore, nothing I spent on the wood materials. What a saving ha!!!

Veneering – The veneers I use were so thin, comes into roll with width 2 inches is the most and some were coated with contact cement. As you can see, it was also good that I manage to allign the grain just like a rising sun extending the grain from center to outward portion. The process is quite tiring because I have to cut one at a time.

Miter Jointing – At first I thought Martyn’s (Britboxmaker) way of miter joint was easy. It was difficult because I don’t have the proper jig. I manage to do it by using the portable router and place a guide board to cut a 45 degree bevel. It is good that I was able to have a perfect edge or tip of the router bit. I just realize now that the bit was just incidental ... IT WAS NOT A ROUTER BIT BUT A COUNTERSUNK BIT I BOUGHT … I also followed how Martyn made preparation for the lid lips undercut prior assembly.. Well, I am glad that Martyn told me that I had marked it outside face…

Rabetting – I called this method as David’s (Patron) dadoo. He had blog some of his boxes making the side in a dadoo form… actually, rabetting the all of the end side of the box that were still open should have been done prior assembly however, I was expecting some errors. I used straght bits and rout the edges… I had been doing this method quite often so I can ride the router base in just one hand to a 1/4 thick of rail. All you need is to maintain the perpendicular push of the router and maintain the closeness of the router guide to the sidewall. The front and rear (or left and right) side was done by rabetting thereafter the veneering was done. Of course prior assembly, I have to route the lid undercut.

Cutting the LID – Called SOS in doing so. I almost give up because it was hard to cut the wood. I left a .5 mm thick but it was still tight.. Manage to cut it using a knife with slight hammering just like using a chisel.

Lipping – Ripped oversized lip using the router 45 degree and saw it. Glued and then route to shape. Planing by hand was useful on the lid lips. I have my smallest plane I bought in London… a 2 inch rabbetting plane. The blade is just 1 inch. Easier to control. The Balitadtad wood is really nice to work with.

Sanding – The effort of manual sanding is worth on veneers. Though, I mad a run of portable oscilating sander only on the last pass of 400 grade.

Finishing – I go with pure POLYURETHANE gloss finish. I apply so thick in it that I cannot recall how many coats I applied. As you can see on the photos the finish is not so good… you can see bubbles. I have to admit that this was the intention. Coat it plenty because I need to protect the veneer on its first 7 days to cure the glue and poly. This will prevent excessive movement of the wood. By Saturday, I have to sand it again and apply the lasting finish.

So that was it. Just look at the photo.#1 and #2 – Agnes was very artistic to take the final photo with a mirror background. You can see the bottom of it.

Size of the box: 3-1/2×7 x 7 inches..

LASTLY, I want to thank those LJs who had inspired me to do this. Special thanks to: Martyn, David, Rand (for giving a gift that help me a lot—straight spiral router bits… without those, this will be impossible) and furthermore Sheila who inspired me on her nice words and Paul who is the one who let me try veneering for the first time …

I hope you enjoy looking at this as I am enjoying the success of doing this torturing effort.

God bless.


- There is a big difference between words and action… but the one who say the word and do the action will always be the same.

-- Bert

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#1 posted 09-12-2011 03:36 PM

Bert…That is one amazing and complicated box. Congratulations on a fantastic accomplishment.

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#2 posted 09-12-2011 04:06 PM

Bert, you have way more patience and skill than I, that is a wonderful box, and that mirror photography really
lets a person see all the angles and contrasts of the box at one glance. Thank you for giving us one more
item to drool over and think, Only a few more years of work and maybe I can do that. Thank you for sharing.

-- As ever, Gus-the 80 yr young apprentice carpenter

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#3 posted 09-12-2011 04:20 PM

Superb, Bert, from concept to completion a real mesmerizer.

Well done

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese!

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#4 posted 09-12-2011 04:26 PM

This is another thing I like about LJs. There is always somebody who posts a project that shows me how much is possible and how there is always more to learn.

Bert, you learned well. It’s fantastic!

-- I may have lost my marbles, but I still have my love of woodworking

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#5 posted 09-12-2011 05:01 PM

Nice Box, Great design and execution, a real eye catcher, nice write up and info, thanks for sharing

-- It's Mic Keep working and sharing

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#6 posted 09-12-2011 05:27 PM

You have made an absolutely splendid job of this box, Bert.

At first I thought you were biting off a bit more than you could chew but I was wrong and you have proved yourself more than up to the task. Your openness in being able to take on help from different sources as well as your own resourcefulness do you proud.

To cap it all you’ve recycled throughout and come up with a stunning patterned box.

I am glad to have helped but feel gladder for your achievements. Very well done. Its great to see it finally posted. You should be rightly proud of this project.

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging.

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#7 posted 09-12-2011 05:49 PM

As said, wonderful design, and beautifully finished Bert.

Splendid job.

I´ve also tried Martyn´s mitre technique. Is quite easy to explain how to. I do know it is a kind of trip to Saturn.

Specially if you hand routed with a COUNTERSUNK BIT !!

As you say : a big difference between words and action

-- Back home. Fernando

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#8 posted 09-12-2011 05:54 PM

Hi again, I forgot to mention the mirror trick.

Agnes made a fantastic presentation with that photo. As Mic said, a real eye catcher

-- Back home. Fernando

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#9 posted 09-12-2011 06:06 PM

One fine job! That is a real eye catcher. The pictures are excellent and the use of the mirror was ingenious. When I first saw it, I wondered how you could do that one without going cross eye…the pattern is mesmerizing.

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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#10 posted 09-12-2011 07:07 PM

first time I see it but ….. waaauw …. a real eyecatcher you have created …. that will be
no its already is a conversation peice :-)

thank´s for sharing it

take care

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#11 posted 09-12-2011 07:20 PM

Cool !!!!!

-- David in Palm Bay, FL

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#12 posted 09-12-2011 10:01 PM

Well What more can anyone say… fabulous.. especially with the tools you have available or not…

-- Don't drink and use power tools @

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#13 posted 09-12-2011 10:53 PM

Really beautiful.
I love how all the sides meet.
Best thoughts,

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect.

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#14 posted 09-12-2011 11:21 PM

Congratulations Bert on a Wonderful Achievement!!
Your “tortuous” work really paid off my Friend… Beautiful Box!!
Very well told and enjoyable Blog too… Excellent Work all the way around…

-- Mike in Concord, NH---Unpleasant tasks are simply worthy challenges to improve skills.

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#15 posted 09-12-2011 11:51 PM

Thanks to all,
I only you would ask if I will do it again… who knows …. It would be faster and quick the second time around.
Without LJ probably, I am lost somewhere. But to all, the box reveal an endless endeavour, starting in the center and outward we go to a very complicated bottom part. Thanks again and God bless,

-- Bert

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