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Project by ToddE posted 12-24-2007 07:48 PM 4555 views 22 times favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Hello All,
I have been warning for months that I am going to finally get this dust collector hooked…well I finally did. Not that I didn’t want to hook it up, it is just so expensive to do it right. I just thought that I would throw in a couple pics. I left the 10’ of metal piping on the Griz and just joined it with the PVC. It makes grounding easier inside the shop and why tear down something that is perfectly fine. The reason why I went with PVC was because the joints are a piece of cake to make and I didn’t have any success what so ever with my metal joints. But we won’t talk about them. I have to be honest with you…nothing is of my own doing, except the work of course. I got the design of the pipe joints from Stan Harder at ( http://harderwoods.com/pipe.html ). You will have to click on the pictures below. I don’t seem to be able to get them to fit right. PIPE FITTINGS: The only thing I did different from Stan’s joints is that I used white caulking on the outside, just in case the CA wasn’t perfect. I used paintable caulking because when it is all done, I am going to get everything painted up on the ceiling the same colors, so it doesn’t look like a big spider on top of me. Here is a picture of the tools I used. I ordered the CA glue and the accellerant from Rockler. You have to spray one side of the pipe with accellerant and the other joint has a line of CA glue. Don’t skip the spray, it won’t work with out it, trust me! You also don’t need to buy a ton of this stuff. I used only a 1/3 of a 4oz bottle setting up the entire line. See the above pictures for the joints.PhotobucketBLAST GATES: The blast gate design was from Phil Bumbalough at (http://www.benchmark.20m.com/articles/BlastGate/blastgatebuilding.html). I used Gorilla glue to secure the blast gate halves to the pvc pipe. Make sure you sand the pipe first, it makes the hold a lot better. I forgot to do that on a couple and I was able to pull the pipe out with some moderate force. I didn’t glue any of my blast gate halves together like Phil did. I drilled them out, countersunk the holes on the upward side of the blast gate and I used drywall screws to secure the halves. I also used the same harden board material for the spacers as I did for the gate. I wrapped the spacers three times with black electrical tape. This gave me a cushion of adjustment, about 1/32 on each side, which was a total of 1/16 per spacer. I used screws (instead of gluing) because I could adjust the restriction of the gate by tightening or loosening the screws. Also, I mentioned earlier to have the screws face upwards on the blast gate, this allows for future adjustment with moisture content or even new gate material in case you bust one off. This picture is the main line, running through the end of my outfeed table, underneath to my table saw.PhotobucketThis is my picture of the jig I made of mdf to router the holes on the blast gates. You can see the black piece of melamine in the bottom of the jig and I used a spiral bit to cut the holes out.Photobucket
Both Stan and Phil helped me out tremendously and I really appreciate their information they post for us. And not of which is to be considered the least of important: of course I learned about pipe spacing and things lilke static buildup etc., from Bill Pentz at (http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/Ducting.cfm#Fittings). I encourage people to take the time and learn what to install and how to install it first. This was a very expensive venture for me and I would hate to have anyone set up their system and find out that it was all the wrong layout and pipe supply. I have over $700 in the machine and about $500 in the piping and fittings. That might not be a lot to some, but to me, that’s a new planer and about 500 things from Rockler. If anyone has any questions about making these joints let me know. My email address is [email protected] Make sure you put in the title something about lumberjocks or woodworking or dust collector or something else because I don’t read my junk mail. Thanks guys for looking.

-- Allegheny Woodshop





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Bob #2

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#1 posted 12-24-2007 08:47 PM

Nice piece of work Todd.
I am impressed with you giving references to your sources as often this is not done and confusion exists vs the author and the project builder.

cheers
Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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kjwoodworking

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#2 posted 12-24-2007 10:30 PM

Looks like you took your time and did it right! I need to get a system I’m still using filtration from hairius nosius. :)

-- Kirk H. -- http://www.kjwoodworking.com

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#3 posted 12-25-2007 01:12 AM

Great looking job!

Gary

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#4 posted 12-25-2007 11:46 PM

Very neat looking job Todd. I put mine in last year & wouldn’t be without it.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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#5 posted 12-26-2007 06:15 PM

Hey guys, sorry about the miscommunication with the order and people in the writing above. I was in a hurry to finish my writing and my wife was dragging me out the door to go to a friend’s Christmas gathering. Anyway, I updated it to read properly. Phil Bumbalough was the one with the blast gate ideas and Stan Harder was the one with the joint designs. I think I had them backwards. Anyway, they are fixed now. Hope you all had a great Christmas and God Bless all you guys in the new year.

-- Allegheny Woodshop

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mot

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#6 posted 12-26-2007 09:45 PM

Neat work. I can do a better job of mine controlling leaks. I may use more of the aluminum tape. Thanks for posting your references! I’m with Bob #2 that many woodworking site forum posts make it seem like it’s the author’s original ideas. I appreciate the effort you put into your post and description.

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

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#7 posted 12-31-2007 04:02 PM

Hi todd,
Nice work, My complete shop vacuum system is made out of PVC. Works great, I use Aluminum Blast gate every where. Some fittings I had to turn to fit on my lathe. But most of all when using PVC. you must Ground with copper wire. I wrapped the out side, then pulled an tied through center of piping. Before I grounded it I noticed that static shock was a problem. Lighting bolts basically, one hit my daughter and left a welt on her arm. She’s 24 so at the time was pretty funny.

-- Marty Ohio

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kwhit190211

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#8 posted 07-04-2009 08:34 AM

You did a good job on your vacuum systems. Personality I used tin at first, but I found out that there just was to much leakage with it. I ripped most of it out. I just kept the piece comming off of the vacuum up to the first 90 & reducer. I went ABS after that.
I looked at your software, it’s ok. But contrary to your layouts you can make a 4” on to a 4” lateral. It takes a bit of work but it can be done. I’ve made a few of these over my years as a pipefitter.

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#9 posted 07-05-2009 07:15 AM

Looks great Todd super job

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