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Project by MrWolfe posted 06-27-2019 01:07 AM 763 views 1 time favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Boxes number 9 & 10 in my recent box build. These two are my first handcut finger joint boxes. They are both made of cedar and thin plywood. Both were finished with Minwax Fruitwood stain, the lighter one was followed with clear shellac and the darker one had a wipe on finish (provincial stain, mineral spirits and poly) then coated with amber shellac. I put Johnson Paste Wax on both. I wanted to be able to tell them apart at a glance when reaching for chisels.

The lighter one has my new narex chisel set in it and the darker one has my old, no-name beater chisels in it. They are my favorite because I changed the bevels on them down to almost 15 degrees with a 17 – 20 degree secondary bevel. I use them ALL the time and even though they are ugly, they are sharp.

I was so happy to be finished and take the pics of these today.
First time I’ve used hardware in a handmade box… I had to laugh out loud because I think I put the hasps/buckles on upside down!!!

The cedar inserts were fun to make. I had to think about it for a while. I left them unfinished in hopes that the cedar will draw moisture from the box and help with rust prevention.

READ THE UPDATE BELOW! I’ve sealed the cedar because untreated cedar is corrosive to iron.
Thanks to Lazyman and Swirt for sharing that info.

I also used CRC 3-36 on the chisels followed with JPW and I’m trying out some Zerust plastabs that offgas a rust inhibitor.

Glad these will never leave my shop.

Thanks for looking
jon





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swirt

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#1 posted 06-27-2019 02:11 AM

Looks great. Nice work. I suggest finishing the cedar. Metal contacting cedar will cause rust not prevent it. Cedar is not a desiccant, and has elements in it that cause rust. That’s why you have to use stainless steel nails (or no-iron) to put on cedar shingles.

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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MrWolfe

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#2 posted 06-27-2019 02:19 AM

Thanks Swirt….
I’m reading this right now. http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/journals/conservation-journal/issue-04/corrosion-of-metals-associated-with-wood/

Oak, sweet chestnut, Western red cedar and Douglas fir are the woods most commonly associated with corrosion of metals in contact with them under damp conditions. Iron and steel are much more susceptible to the corrosive influence of wood than aluminium, copper or brass.

I hate to do it but i might need to add a finish to those inserts.
Just when I thought I was finished.
jon

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#3 posted 06-27-2019 02:38 AM

I used a cedar scraps as a the spacers in my saw rack. In less than a couple weeks I had rust on each saw where it contacted the cedar. I had to open it up and spray the cedar with shellac that helped quite a bit, however there were still cases of contact rust in the longer term. So I sprayed them with poly. That solved it. I have a feeling that a couple more coats of shellac would have had the same effect as the poly, but can’t test that now.

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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MrWolfe

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#4 posted 06-27-2019 03:21 AM

UPDATE!!!
I guess I had to hear it twice for it to sink in. I’m glad to be part of a community where people share their experience, good and bad. And thanks again for being persistant enough to tell me again.

A half hour later and I’m into the first coat of poly. Another in the morning then a little JPW and I’ll call it done.
Thanks again for saving me from creating my own rust issues. You might have saved someone else from the same trouble. I’m going to update my two other posts that have this topic in it.

Jon

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muesli

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#5 posted 06-27-2019 10:55 AM

Jon, your boxes are great -without and with special coating!

That’s why I like lumberjocks so much. So much to learn, many tips and always nice people. Had been in a german Bosch-DIY-community for a very short time. I published some of my projects and thought, one or two might be helpful for some people. The result was, that I got lots of comments how I have to publish projects, F…... idiots there!

Did I say that I like lumberjocks very much? :D

-- Uwe from Germany.

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#6 posted 06-27-2019 12:05 PM

Nice little boxes, and glad you’re getting the rust situation figured out.

-- Dave - Santa Fe

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swirt

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#7 posted 06-27-2019 01:59 PM

Sorry MrWolfe,
I didn’t want it to seem like I was repeatedly claiming it to you. I was sure you heard it the first time. ;) I just didn’t want others to see only one post and miss the warning on the other.

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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MrWolfe

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#8 posted 06-27-2019 02:46 PM

Thanks Muesli and Dave,
I was about to make a real rust headache for myself with that untreated cedar. I’m glad that Lazyman and Swirt shared their knowledge with me. Lumberjocks is a great community and its cool to see what other people are doing and try and learn from their experience. Beats having to make EVERY mistake.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#9 posted 06-28-2019 05:40 AM

Not too shabby fingers… and for the first attempt… extra cookies.

Be proud… you have done great job. Just ensure those chisels stay sharp!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#10 posted 06-28-2019 12:30 PM

Outstanding boxes….Very good taking care of your tool!!

-- Ivan, Croatia, Wooddicted

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MrWolfe

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#11 posted 06-28-2019 01:02 PM

Thanks LBD and Majuvla,
I got some practice with the dovetails I’ve been cutting lately so it was fun. I’ve been honing my chisels very often when I use them and I’ve ordered some of those little silicone blade guards for them. Cookies are good.
jon

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LittleBlackDuck

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#12 posted 06-28-2019 02:22 PM


.... and always nice people….
- muesli

And then there’s that duck!

... some of those little silicone blade guards for them….
- MrWolfe

Just a heads up ’Wolfe... Don’t ask me where I got it as is was probably during one of my vino induced extravagances,

I won’t be so crass as to say they fit better than condoms.
The instructions are on the back of the photo!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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MrWolfe

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#13 posted 06-28-2019 06:28 PM

LBD,
I’m not sure I want to know what you were trying to do with that Plasti Dip but I’m going to try it on my chisels. Those silicone boots are expensive and a can of that stuff should last me a long time!
Thanks
Jon

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LittleBlackDuck

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#14 posted 06-29-2019 01:08 AM


LBD,
.... but I m going to try it on my chisels….
- MrWolfe

Just don’t immerse the entire chisel… otherwise you might have trouble finding the striking end.

You do need a few coats to get a good replaceable sheath.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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