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Project by KettleWorkshop posted 06-09-2019 05:36 AM 707 views 2 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

So fairly simple project.

Basically I was tired of dragging around both the Shop-Vac and the dust extractor whenever I needed a new place. And as for space is at a premium at times, I need to find a way to use my vertical space better.

Constructed from 3 8’ 2×2s. This has achieved the goal.

The whole project is uniquely (read:janky) co-opting the rollers of the Shop-Vac itself.

Now the Shop-Vac is a 6 horsepower version so it has plenty of power.

But yeah that’s it, just wanted to post my first official completed project.

-- If you don't throw out the original design at least 2 times, you aren't finding all the imperfections.





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JackinNac

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#1 posted 06-09-2019 05:57 AM

Looks good, I need to build one. What brand is the cyclone?

-- When they discover the center of the universe, a lot of people will be disappointed they are not it

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Underdog

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#2 posted 06-09-2019 11:12 AM

6 horse power Shop Vac? Are you joking?

Nice way to save space though.

-- Jim, Georgia, USA

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piano261

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#3 posted 06-09-2019 12:49 PM

The cyclones are sold at Home Depot. High Efficiency Dust Separator, 12 in. Dia. with 2.5 in. Hose, 36 in. Long.
I like your set up.

I have a larger Sear shop vac and will need to make mine a larger size. It’s hard to drag around also.

I’ll use your idea and make something similar. Good idea.

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KettleWorkshop

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#4 posted 06-09-2019 02:08 PM


6 horse power Shop Vac? Are you joking?

Nice way to save space though.

- Underdog


No?
Shop Vac SL14-600C
Its a 6HP Shop Vac. Not sure whats so unbelievable about that.

And per the Dustopper

I prefer it for the space saving; meaning I was not a fan of trying to fit in a 2 foot tall dust deputy. I know they are great and all but they are a little big. This one works great so far. Ihave filled the 5 gallon bucket twice since getting it and there has been maybe a cup of debris in the actual shop vac. I call that pretty effective.

And I totally just realized I put a HD exclusive on a Lowes bucket; woops lol.

After using the system, I have noticed two problems.
  • There is no hose storage capacity. So when not in use, the hoses are just draped over it.
  • The 36in hose that came with the setup did not work.

More on that second point. The hose worked, just want long enough. Ended up buying a Shop Vac Bulk Pickup Kit that came with a 6’ hose and I cut it down to about 4’. Though that was actually a good thing since the other parts of the bulk pickup kit (2 rigid extension pieces and end piece) have proven very helpful in getting up any dust that gets to the floor.

That is not pictured above, and I will get an updated picture of it shortly; its a minor change.

I also have a second hose thats only a 1 1/2” hose, but it has a built in 2 1/2” coupler. This has had the coupler for my Dewalt 2 3/4HP Router attached to it so I can swap hoses to that one when using the router. Works well.

Again, the biggest issue with the design is lack of hose storage.

Glad yall liked it!

-- If you don't throw out the original design at least 2 times, you aren't finding all the imperfections.

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dustyal

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#5 posted 06-09-2019 04:43 PM

Well done. I like the openness and space saving. Hose storage: Awkward on most designs. Did not know about HD separator. I have a similar if not the same shop vac and it works fine on my dust deputy.

-- Al H. - small shop, small projects...

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Dutchy

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#6 posted 06-09-2019 06:18 PM

6 horse power Shop Vac? Are you joking?

Nice way to save space though.

- Underdog

No?
Shop Vac SL14-600C
Its a 6HP Shop Vac. Not sure whats so unbelievable about that.

And per the Dustopper

- KettleWorkshop

Also I like it!

But the HP is a salesman joke. See also his performance note below on his site. Your Vac is 11,8 Amp and 120V. 120*11,8= 1.416 Watt (ohm's law)

1HP = (USA) 745.7 W

1.416/.7457= 1.898HP or rounded 1.9

So your VAC is 1.9 HP instead of 6 despite what the salesman is telling.

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therealSteveN

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#7 posted 06-09-2019 08:02 PM

Also I like it!

But the HP is a salesman joke. See also his performance note below on his site. Your Vac is 11,8 Amp and 120V. 120*11,8= 1.416 Watt (ohm s law)

1HP = (USA) 745.7 W

1.416/.7457= 1.898HP or rounded 1.9

So your VAC is 1.9 HP instead of 6 despite what the salesman is telling.

- Dutchy

Yes, there isn’t going to be any 6HP motor at 11.8 AMPs. that “peak” HP crap is as untruthful as Sears old “develops 3 Hp” on their 1 1/2 HP table saws. There really does need to be an accurate truth in advertising law.

Nice set up on your vac though. Are you finding that item from Home Cheapo actually does take in almost all of the dust, like an Onida cyclone. or just some of the dust, and you are still having quite a bit in vacs can?

-- Think safe, be safe

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TheSawDustWhisperer

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#8 posted 06-09-2019 10:08 PM

Horse power Smorse Power.
It’s a great vac and a well designed holder.
Congratulations on your right out of the gate top 3.
It looks like a good dust separator.

-- One of these days I’m going to build a dust collection system. Dusty Lungs

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Underdog

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#9 posted 06-10-2019 11:03 AM

Most of the time if you have a 5 HP motor, then the thing is almost as big as that entire shop vac….
I mean they’re not gigantic, but they’re also not the size of a mayonnaise jar.

I didn’t mean to cast aspersions on your veracity. If that’s the way you took it, I apologize. I meant only to doubt the sales claims…

It looks like a great addition to your shop, and well worth the effort.

-- Jim, Georgia, USA

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KettleWorkshop

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#10 posted 06-10-2019 03:32 PM


Also I like it!

But the HP is a salesman joke. See also his performance note below on his site. Your Vac is 11,8 Amp and 120V. 120×11,8= 1.416 Watt (ohm s law)

1HP = (USA) 745.7 W

1.416/.7457= 1.898HP or rounded 1.9

So your VAC is 1.9 HP instead of 6 despite what the salesman is telling.

- Dutchy

Dutchy, thank you for this. Was unaware but your post made it clear; it also made me remember high school with that use of Ohm’s Law lol.

But yeh, that makes sense.

In the end though, it is one of the most powerful shop vacs I have ever used and provides a really good amount of suction for the dust collector.


Yes, there isn t going to be any 6HP motor at 11.8 AMPs. that “peak” HP crap is as untruthful as Sears old “develops 3 Hp” on their 1 1/2 HP table saws. There really does need to be an accurate truth in advertising law.

Nice set up on your vac though. Are you finding that item from Home Cheapo actually does take in almost all of the dust, like an Onida cyclone. or just some of the dust, and you are still having quite a bit in vacs can?

- therealSteveN

Hard to answer that Steven but I will try; as I havent used a Onida Cyclone. The performance of the dustoper is that so far it has filled up the 5 gallon bucket twice. Afer that second emptying, I went ahead and checked the Shop Vac and found about a cup of debris in there. So I would say it is rather effective and I am glad I got it.

I have read issues with the Dustopper when used on Non-Home Depot Homer buckets but it secures just fine to my Lowes Bucket. I added a bungie cord over it to secure the entire thing to the cart; the top stays on just fine without it. But otherwise the whole thing will tip off with the weight of the hoses.


Horse power Smorse Power.
It’s a great vac and a well designed holder.
Congratulations on your right out of the gate top 3.
It looks like a good dust separator.

- TheSawDustWhisperer

Thank you very much. Was very surprised at the Daily Top 3, but glad to have it. Honestly what it makes me want is to do a second version in the future that is much nicer and not quickly thrown together to fill a need.


Most of the time if you have a 5 HP motor, then the thing is almost as big as that entire shop vac….
I mean they re not gigantic, but they re also not the size of a mayonnaise jar.

I didn t mean to cast aspersions on your veracity. If that s the way you took it, I apologize. I meant only to doubt the sales claims…

It looks like a great addition to your shop, and well worth the effort.

- Underdog

Thank you for the clarification Underdog. After Dutchy’s Post explaining the falseness of the branding of it, it makes a whole lot more sense as to why you were calling it into question. At the time though I couldnt tell if you were calling shenanigans on me or the item; hence I felt linking it directly would be the best respose.

So thank you again for clarifying! All good.

And hey, your comment caused mine, which then opened the door for Dutchy to drop some education. I just hope others, who were unaware of the actual reality vs. sales claims can learn something from it too!

-- If you don't throw out the original design at least 2 times, you aren't finding all the imperfections.

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Underdog

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#11 posted 06-11-2019 02:43 AM

One reason I looked your post was that I’ve been thinking I need a shop vac because I’m tired of using my rolling dust collector to vacuum up shavings. And I wondered if yours was a good one. So when it was said to be 5hp I was skeptical. (I’ve been doing machine maintenance for years and years, and I’m aware of how big certain motors are.) But from your reports it’s a strong vac, so I was a bit disappointed to see the thing has been discontinued. I wonder if it’s sold somewhere else?

-- Jim, Georgia, USA

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KettleWorkshop

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#12 posted 06-11-2019 04:13 AM

Makes alot more sense now!

Per the discontinued status. Here ya gohttps://www.shopvac.com/product/shop-vac-8-gallon-6-0-peak-hp-stainless-steel-wet-dry-vacuum-catnum:5989400

The one issue I have with mine is the giant 12gallon container. Makes it harder.

The one I linked is the same motor but with a smaller container. If you hook up to a dust separator then that wont matter.

And I definitely recommend the stainless steel container type. Tough as nails compared to those plastic ones.

-- If you don't throw out the original design at least 2 times, you aren't finding all the imperfections.

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SteveMI

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#13 posted 06-12-2019 07:11 PM

Some info on the HP controversy from the shopvac.com link.

Horsepower Rating **”Peak Horsepower” (PHP) is a term used in the wet-dry vacuum industry for consumer comparison purposes. It does not denote the operational horsepower of a wet-dry vacuum but rather the horsepower output of a motor, including the motor’s inertial contribution, achieved in laboratory testing. In actual use, Shop-Vac motors do not operate at the peak horsepower shown.

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Dutchy

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#14 posted 06-13-2019 03:03 PM


Some info on the HP controversy from the shopvac.com link.

Horsepower Rating **”Peak Horsepower” (PHP) is a term used in the wet-dry vacuum industry for consumer comparison purposes. It does not denote the operational horsepower of a wet-dry vacuum but rather the horsepower output of a motor, including the motor’s inertial contribution, achieved in laboratory testing. In actual use, Shop-Vac motors do not operate at the peak horsepower shown.

- SteveMI

It is 100% a marketing gimmick.

https://www.intervacdesign.com/f4/The-Truth-About-Vacuum-Horsepower.htm

-- https://dutchypatterns.com/

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DreganTepis

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#15 posted 06-17-2019 04:53 PM

very nice!

-- Red pencil, red marker, marking knife... doesn't mater, the wood will end up the same color.

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