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Project by mochasatin posted 05-08-2019 01:51 PM 2166 views 9 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I just moved to a new location and am setting up my shop in a detached garage. I converted my HF dust collector to a 2-stage unit using the Oneida Super Dust Deputy. I used 4” PVC along one wall with 5 drops and a total of 10 connections using a double wye branch. The PVC is mounted to the wall using a 2” slice of PVC with a 1/4 section of the circumference removed. The mounts are screwed through a 3/4” spacer and into a wall stud using a single 2-1/2” screw. I ported the exhaust port out the garage door using a 10’ long, 5” diameter hose because I didn’t want to hack a hole through the brick exterior wall. For a dust bin, I used a 64 gallon Toter trash can with large wheels from HD. My compost pile is about 75 yards from the shop so I needed a way to easily move the dust bin. I still need to add a little window to identify when the can is full.

-- Scott





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pottz

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#1 posted 05-08-2019 02:17 PM

great looking system,i like your way to attach the pipe to the wall.looks like you planed your shop quite well.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#2 posted 05-08-2019 02:27 PM

Nice layout and fixturing.

But I’m wondering where the exhaust goes? Just out the door, no filter?

And why the fan is so much higher than the cyclone? Wouldn’t you want it closer to the cyclone?

-- Jim, Georgia, USA

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mochasatin

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#3 posted 05-08-2019 03:26 PM

Yes out the door. No filter. I live in Florida and never close the door except during a strong rain.

The Dust Deputy tilts back when I empty the bin so I wanted ample clearance and play. Also I have to put the exhaust port either above or below the garage door rail. Having said that, I am going to drop it much lower and below the rail. It bugs me too.


Nice layout and fixturing.

But I m wondering where the exhaust goes? Just out the door, no filter?

And why the fan is so much higher than the cyclone? Wouldn t you want it closer to the cyclone?

- Underdog


-- Scott

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fivecodys

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#4 posted 05-08-2019 03:47 PM

Very clean set up Scott, both in the PVC and the electrical. It looks great!

I am curious about a couple of things.

Oneida says that the dust collection bin must have an air tight connection to the SDD. How are you making that seal to the garbage can?

Secondly, and this is really just a comment not a question, Oneida said that they recommend a 5’ straight section of duct on the input side of the SDD to help stabilize the air flow before it enters the SDD. I was told this makes the SDD separation more efficient. If you find you are spewing some dust through the vent hose you might try addressing this.

I also vent to the outside but I do go through the wall.
I have seen no visible dust at the vent or the bushes near the vent so the SDD is doing it’s job well.
I was going to do the same type as venting as you did but I finally convinced the wife to let me punch a hole in the wall. It looks just like a dryer vent so she’s ok with it.

Good luck in your new shop. I hope you will continue posting pictures of your progress.

-- A bad day woodworking is still better than a good day working.

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mochasatin

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#5 posted 05-08-2019 04:58 PM

1. I spent a lot of time with the seal on the dust bin. I have a second piece of 3/4” plywood attached to the top that is inserted into the bin with about a 1/16” clearance to the inner wall of the dust bin. Initially I tried using a foam seal, but it interfered with the lid closing so instead I smeared a thin film of silicone with my finger around the rim of the plywood. I then listened to the seal when running and heard almost no leakage. It forms a tight vacumn on the lid. I can’t lift the lid when it is running.

2. I have been testing a lot and haven’t noticed any dust at the output. I am sure my setup is not optimal, but it is a very good solution given my space limitations.

The garage is just a temporary location until I get a shop built so I cutting through the brick is not an option. The garage is going to be converted to a living space later.


Very clean set up Scott, both in the PVC and the electrical. It looks great!

I am curious about a couple of things.

Oneida says that the dust collection bin must have an air tight connection to the SDD. How are you making that seal to the garbage can?

Secondly, and this is really just a comment not a question, Oneida said that they recommend a 5 straight section of duct on the input side of the SDD to help stabilize the air flow before it enters the SDD. I was told this makes the SDD separation more efficient. If you find you are spewing some dust through the vent hose you might try addressing this.

I also vent to the outside but I do go through the wall.
I have seen no visible dust at the vent or the bushes near the vent so the SDD is doing it s job well.
I was going to do the same type as venting as you did but I finally convinced the wife to let me punch a hole in the wall. It looks just like a dryer vent so she s ok with it.

Good luck in your new shop. I hope you will continue posting pictures of your progress.

- fivecodys


-- Scott

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fivecodys

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#6 posted 05-08-2019 08:32 PM



1. I spent a lot of time with the seal on the dust bin. I have a second piece of 3/4” plywood attached to the top that is inserted into the bin with about a 1/16” clearance to the inner wall of the dust bin. Initially I tried using a foam seal, but it interfered with the lid closing so instead I smeared a thin film of silicone with my finger around the rim of the plywood. I then listened to the seal when running and heard almost no leakage. It forms a tight vacumn on the lid. I can t lift the lid when it is running.

2. I have been testing a lot and haven t noticed any dust at the output. I am sure my setup is not optimal, but it is a very good solution given my space limitations.

The garage is just a temporary location until I get a shop built so I cutting through the brick is not an option. The garage is going to be converted to a living space later.

Very clever Scott. I would have never thought of doing it like that! Wood workers are a ingenious group of people. I am glad it is all working well for you.
A new shop huh? Now I am truly jealous.
I hope you chronicle the build for us as you go.

-- A bad day woodworking is still better than a good day working.

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#7 posted 05-09-2019 01:00 PM

How did you attach the gates to the PVC?

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mochasatin

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#8 posted 05-09-2019 03:09 PM

The gates are 1/8” smaller diameter than the PVC ID. I used black electrical tape to make a tight seal (six wraps). Tapped it into place and inserted a single 3/8” screw.


How did you attach the gates to the PVC?

- BlueRidgeDog


-- Scott

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mochasatin

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#9 posted 05-09-2019 08:23 PM

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-- Scott

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#10 posted 05-09-2019 09:06 PM

Nice shop and setup. I see Grizzly is your friend.

-- James E McIntyre

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#11 posted 05-09-2019 09:59 PM

Very simple and clean setup. I did the same thing with my HF dust collector. I added a remote to be able to start and stop it from any machine. It was a nice addition.

-- Ty

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