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Project by TheWoz posted 12-30-2018 02:27 PM 457 views 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I never see pen photos being posted, maybe they are a little overplayed, but please cut me a little slack… these four pens are my first turnings and I wanted to show them off.
Two of the pens with Black Chrome fittings and crazy grain are Swetenia Mahogany, while the two tone pen is heavily spalted Oak and Merbau (ironwood). The oak was really punky so I doused it with CA glue several times to harden it while turning. I did the majority of turning with a “fingernail gouge?” And finished it off with a skew chisel (looks like a knife).
Good experience though, pens are fun! Just disappointed with the “satin gold” finish pen kits, they look nice in pictures online, but like plastic in person. Should have gone with the 24k kits.
Anyway, thanks for looking and Happy New Year!





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Andre

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#1 posted 12-30-2018 04:32 PM

Love that Mahogany, I found out the hard way that Oak not the best wood choice for pens!. Cigar/Fat Pens are next on my list, have been playing with stick pens and using up a lot of scrap Walnut and Teak. Not a fan of CA finish, I like to use Hard Wax, cleaner and much easier on the hands, something a nail chewer should look into :)

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#2 posted 12-30-2018 07:42 PM

actually woz there seems to be a lot of pen activity here lately,a lot of guys for the first time trying them.hey those look real nice,but ya know its not too late to turn back,its addicting,a few more and you’ll be hooked-lol.if you want to get serious about pen making I recommend joining or just lurking at the IAP site,its just for pen turners,thats were I learned the most about it.great job.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#3 posted 12-31-2018 12:27 AM

Yo T’Woz, As pottzy inferred there are probably more post about pens here at LJ than youngies out there that know how to wield one.

I admire you for having the guts to try a cigar before those pissy little slimline “cigarettes”... as your first venture into sin.
Incredible how most people make them (the slimlines) so bloody bulbous… is it to beef them out? Yeah the cigar kits are more expensive, but we men love to brag about size and furthermore, the cigars provide performance (hey, ye with filthy minds… I’m referring to a better quality refill type [Parker]).

One day I’ll get off my ample rrrs and post something about the pitfalls I’ve encountered in pen making so I’ll spare you (and future pen turner inductees) the tears here as you’ll probably be reading this as a matter of courtesy rather than choice.

So I will leave you with these tips if you decide to get serious:
  1. Buy a good disassembly kit (and padded pliers). I wont spruik any brands… so get your hair wet and surf the pen sites (PSI, Berea as a starter). And a “little guy” Bear Tooth Woods.
  2. There are far too many styles out there, so select carefully your niche and don’t even attempt to cover all bases.
  3. What you find aesthetic may not be so to the recipient (unless they explicitly order a specific combination… which may be in conflict if you consider the above tip). I am pissed with the amount of “friends” that prefer acrylic blanks to exotic timber… One exception is to turn a friend (or client) a BOOMBY (Branch Out Of My Back Yard)... thick rose clippings seem to be a favourite.
  4. I’m crapping on, again, and the missus is throwing a hissy fit as I’m ignoring her overstayed interstate ”guests”, so I’ll direct you to the bottom of this blog - just before its comments start and go back to my boring entertaining chore… and drinking.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#4 posted 12-31-2018 12:55 AM

listen to the duck,i do sometimes myself-lol,but no he has made a pen or two in his “better”days as have I and his wisdom is spot on.first decide what do you want to do,a few a give aways or to sell and maybe make a little money! you’ll figure all this out after your first hundred or two pens,no not joking! its addictive.just have fun.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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TheWoz

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#5 posted 12-31-2018 11:02 AM

LittleBlackDuck, Pottzy,
Wow, thank you guys for the advice! Didn’t realize that pen turning was quite so seductive! One of my friends at the wood shop recommended it and gave me the four cigar kits and I worked on them during the glue ups for my other project. I do like how quickly they come together and bringing something home at the end of the day!
I like the weight and feel of the cigar pens and would like to order a couple of other models, but there are so many different models and honestly a lot of them look pretty cheesy. Would you guys recommend any classic styles with well made hardware? The ones my friend had weee from Woodturningz.com but from looking around Pennstate, and a couple of other sites it appears everyone carries pretty much the same designs.
Anyways, I’m rambling…. thank you guys again for the support, look forward to hearing back from you.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#6 posted 12-31-2018 05:03 PM



..... I do like how quickly they come together and bringing something home at the end of the day!....
I like the weight and feel of the cigar pens and would like to order a couple of other models, but there are so many different models and honestly a lot of them look pretty cheesy. Would you guys recommend any classic styles with well made hardware? The ones my friend had weee from Woodturningz.com but from looking around Pennstate, and a couple of other sites it appears everyone carries pretty much the same designs.
Anyways, I’m rambling…. thank you guys again for the support, look forward to hearing back from you.

- TheWoz

T’Woz, woz gonna just make a brief reply, however, I thought that it’s better to tar and feather you now rather than wait tiill you reach the duckpond!

Though they’re “quick” to make they still require more hours than you imagine (put a stop watch on each step and accumulate). Put a $ value on your hour…

The throwaway slimlines can be production run and passed out to impress, however, it you want to accumulate favours, I well finished pen will earn the brownie points… that’s why I applaud you on the cigar (even if it was a gift and not necessarily by choice). Once you’ve turned a cigar, you will smirk at all the slimlines offered.

A hint for the slimlines… if you know of someone (or yourself) that make “formal” desks (computer or executive… though for executive I’d up the ante to a better kit), a set of slimline pen and matching pencil out of the same timber as the desk makes an impressive extra for the desk’s (out of blue gum) recipient…

(ignore tags on pens… there to identify style and timber and I couldn’t be stuffed to remove, shoot the picture and replace… after all it’s 3:30am here in Australia… only time I can get away from unwelcome, long staying missus’s guests… so I’m strapped for free time).
I used to do this for an ex-friend for free in the past… I call him an ex-friend as he sold the pens with his commission for exorbitant fees and didn’t even acknowledge my contribution (I didn’t really care about a cut).

I agree that the cigar is a nice fit

(antler on left and buffalo horn on the right… just don’t leave the shavings on the ground if you have a dog else it’ll have a lot timer included in it’s diet)
but I tend to reserve that for men and recommend Sierras,

(Elegant Beauty on the left) for the ladies as they are smaller and more dantier… however, that order can be mixed according to sexual preferences.

In the above picture there are two sets of pen and pencil and here are a few more sets I have made to give you some ideas,

(pen, pencil and letter opener combo)

(executive Fountain pen and rollerball combo)

(wedding gift of 2 Atisan pens… buffalo horn for the groom and faux ivory for the bride… you can figure out which is which)

(a set for that annoying old aunt with the whiskers on her chin)

(a sketching pencil with interchangeable “ink” refill).

I’m hoping that you may gather from the above that it’s crazy to ask other peoples advice as all they will do is info overload and expect you to shout the next 20 beers…
Pick your own niche and start slowly.

One more suggestion….
Make up the blanks but don’t assemble them…

have the selectable kits available and ask the recipient his/her/unisex preferances and assemble before their eyes… they’ll think you’re a hero….

4:00am… gotta go!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#7 posted 12-31-2018 11:48 PM



LittleBlackDuck, Pottzy,
Wow, thank you guys for the advice! Didn’t realize that pen turning was quite so seductive! One of my friends at the wood shop recommended it and gave me the four cigar kits and I worked on them during the glue ups for my other project. I do like how quickly they come together and bringing something home at the end of the day!
I like the weight and feel of the cigar pens and would like to order a couple of other models, but there are so many different models and honestly a lot of them look pretty cheesy. Would you guys recommend any classic styles with well made hardware? The ones my friend had weee from Woodturningz.com but from looking around Pennstate, and a couple of other sites it appears everyone carries pretty much the same designs.
Anyways, I’m rambling…. thank you guys again for the support, look forward to hearing back from you.

- TheWoz


one that’s real popular right now for hunters especially are the rifle pens,there are a few to choose from.they look real nice made from antler.hey your new too it just try out different styles and see what you or the people you make them for like.im with duckie don’t really care for the slimlines,look and feel cheap to me,but some woman prefer them for the feel.have fun.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#8 posted 01-01-2019 01:53 AM


..... one that s real popular right now for hunters especially are the rifle pens,there are a few to choose from…...
- pottz

Now that hit the target pottzy.

This may give you a few ideas… however, bear in mind I haven’t really delved into all the new releases over the past few years and are a selection of my leftovers.

From left to right,
  1. Camo acrylic twist bullet pen.
  2. Antler based lever action. Loads the refill by cocking the lever… neat… though expect returns… haven’t had any for over 12 months… yet.
  3. Antler based bolt action (gunmetal finish)... cock the bolt.
  4. Antler based bolt action (gold finish).
  5. Antler based Civil War twist bullet pen (matt silver finish)
  6. Cigar style camo acrylic twist bullet pen.
  7. Black Palm based bolt action SteamPunk pen… just looks like a mean weapon.


..... don t really care for the slimlines,look and feel cheap to me,but some woman prefer them for the feel.....
- pottz

Hey pottzy, you keep telling me this is a family site!

T’Woz, I agree withe pottzy about cheapness of the slimline and for women I do prefer the Sierra Elegant Beauty… they are more expensive than the normal Sierra (or the Gatsby impersonator)... but they are slicker,neater and the ladies love them.
Unfortunately they have been the most popular of my pens (as gifts) and I don’t have a stockpile of turned pens as all the good ones have been sold (or given away).
Another popular one is this little blinged offering…

(Lava flow acrylic with Designer Fillagree in gold… more like a blinged slimline with just a bit more body in the kit).

You could also deviate into specialised items like,

Top to bottom,
  1. Magnetic pick up extender wand… usefull anywhere.
  2. Antler based biker pen.
  3. Lava flow acrylic firemans pen.
  4. Black Palm based gear change pen.
  5. Black Palm based shock absorber pen… working suspension.

Just to add to your confusion,

Initials inlaid money clip. You may have been observant enough to detect the counterfeit $20 bill. After spending all my money on the various kits I din’t have any notes to profile the money clip so I printed one. FAIW, it was printed on the back of a blank computer punched card… our $20 is orange but I ran out of orange punched cards over 30 years ago (only have pink and blue)!

Sorry for all this extensive crapola, while I hate reading I do enjoy inflicting the same on others… I have managed to squeeze in some MY-time as my over-stayed visitors have gone on a lengthy sight seeing trip.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#9 posted 01-01-2019 02:33 AM

now your just showin off duckie.i think you showed them too many pens and they got bored and left-LOL.just kidding,your the best and we all luv ya.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#10 posted 01-01-2019 04:06 AM


now your just showin off duckie.
- pottz

I’d be called a show pony if not for the webbed feet. Just wait for the full frontal 8×10 glossy of me without feathers…

Here’s a temporary back view,

(For the censors… that’s an inny belly button…)

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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TheWoz

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#11 posted 01-01-2019 11:07 AM

So much great information! Thank you for the photos, you’ve really made some great pens and all other sorts of turned items!
Not sure if this is going to be a lifestyle changing thing for me, but I will test the waters!
Just completed an order for 20 Cigar Pens since they only require the one 10mm drill bit, looking at the other models, they require some really archaic sizes 27/64ths? Who does that? Lol and none of the kits use the same bits, so in an effort to keep costs down and sale a few to pay for the next round I just stuck with cigar.
Did pick up one Statesman kit though, it looked pretty rediculosly good! Along with some stabilized burl as the acrylics don’t really interest me yet with so many exotic woods on the market. Maybe someday when/if I reach the Duck status.
That’s funny, the rear view!
You all are great, thanks again!

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LittleBlackDuck

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#12 posted 01-01-2019 12:20 PM

Woz, as pottzy alluded to, I was 1/2 bragging, 1/2 advising and 1/2 making you aware of many options available (not sure what to do with the remaining 1/2).

That’s why I recommended (at least I thought I did and if I didn’t should have… no way am I wading through all that crap I wrote) is to pick a small niche as there are too many options available… and maybe a sideline gimic like a particular type of bullet… though the cigar has a bullet variant.

I believe you have made a great choice in sticking with cigars, however, still recommend sticking with the Elegant Beauties for the ladies.

I shall leave you alone now and look forward to some more of your creations.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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