Long-Stem Goblet

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Project by Mark Wilson posted 09-16-2018 09:31 AM 976 views 1 time favorited 17 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I, for one, am, quite frankly, amazed by what I saw today.

The Western Seagull is, evidently not a proud bird. I picked my camera up while sitting in my car in a parking lot, and tripped the shutter just as this beast was taking off (note that its landing gear are in transit). What it has gripped in its beak is a … wait for it … a … are you sitting down?,,, chicken nugget. Its mother must be pleased.

Be that as it may.

I began this goblet last night (Saturday night) and left it with the cup hollowed out and finished (Shine Juice). I lit into it this evening after I got home, and stalled out, fretting over how the heck I was gonna manage to get away with this. So, right around midnight, I turned off the lamp and sat down at my computer and pulled up YT. “Long stemmed goblet,” was my search. I, of course, went straight to Brother Mike (Waldt), a Master of the form, who, generally, sticks to about 12”. Then I watched Brother Sam (Angelo) do one (16”). Then, I returned Brother Mike for another video. This is what got me back up out of my chair. Go to about the 8 minute mark. He’d been discussing the various ways of stabilizing a spindly piece without a steady rest. I was intrigued by the idea of putting a tennis ball, or a Styrofoam ball, between the tailstock and the lip of the cup. While watching that, VIMH is saying,

You have no balls. You can’t do that.

And then, at 8 minutes, I said to Smartypants,

I do have masking tape.

So that’s what I did.

And, the point to this exercise is that I managed, thanks to Brother Mike, to complete this piece WITHOUT BREAKING IT!!!

(Forgive me for the outburst – I’m quite excited about it.

It’s Camphor (a quite brittle, and fragile, wood, now that it’s completely dried out), and, it measures in at 10” – the longest goblet I’ve made yet.

VIMH is sitting in the corner, with his tail between his legs.

Balls. I don’t need no stinking balls. (Except, mebbees, some sanding balls.)

If you watch that portion of the video, you’ll know the significance of trading compression in a thin stem for expansion. Ingenious. And, yes. I ran it at about 2000 RPM like that. My tape didn’t fly off. (If it’s wrapped around the right way, there’s nothing for the wind to get under.)

What I learned from Brother Sam is that a sharp 1” roughing gouge is an excellent tool for getting right down close to the stem’s final diameter. As it happens, I received shipment of two Hurricane roughing gouges only yesterday. They came along with the new set of spur- and live-centers I ordered. (I’d forgotten about the roughing gouges. Boy. Was I pleasantly surprised.)

My stem only got down to about 3/8”. But, I did add a little detail at the bottom end, just to try to sabotage it, I guess.

The finish, overall, could be better, I suppose. But I have no apologies to make for this one.

I’m sorry.

-- Mark

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Jim Jakosh

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#1 posted 09-16-2018 11:47 AM

Nice work, Mark. It is good to do your homework before starting. It saves a lot of grief if it would have gotten away from you. I had to look on line to see how the goblet process went before I instructed kids at school on how to do it. I have never done one that long before!!

cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#2 posted 09-16-2018 12:13 PM

Striking achievement Mark.
Great job.


-- Bob, Western Australia, The Sun came up this morning, what a great start to the day. Now it's up to me to make it even better. I've cut this piece of wood 4 times and it's still too damn short.

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#3 posted 09-16-2018 12:27 PM

great goblet,mate

-- bambi

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#4 posted 09-16-2018 01:19 PM

That’s a goblet for the big and tall man. Nice work.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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#5 posted 09-16-2018 03:00 PM

Now that’s a cool idea, with the tape/expansion. I wonder if the filament packing tape would work even better (stronger)?

Nice goblet!

I think seagulls are the racoons of the beach.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#6 posted 09-16-2018 03:59 PM

First: Beautiful goblet, a bit of a departure from your recent trend, very geometric, almost an Art Deco feel to this one.

Second: Seagulls are highly intelligent – they have learned that scavenging the scraps we humans waste is easier than finding food on their own. And living so close to humans has made them bold – they know where the easy food is to be found and they know how to take what they want. Guard your lunch.

-- Leafherder

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#7 posted 09-16-2018 05:12 PM

I admire youmade it without braking it- nice work

-- Ivan, Croatia, Wooddicted

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#8 posted 09-16-2018 05:50 PM

This is a very interesting goblet and nicely done. Good work!

-- helluvawreck aka Charles,

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Mark Wilson

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#9 posted 09-16-2018 05:52 PM

Thanks, fellas.
Lew, I hesitated, fearing that masking tape would mar the finish or, at least, leave a bunch of tape gum to deal with. Filament tape is much gummier.
We’re all scavengers, of a sort, aren’t we? You’re right. Gulls are the rats of the seashore. Pigeons are rats with wings. And, rats are s—- with feet.

-- Mark

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#10 posted 09-16-2018 06:18 PM

Mark, you attempted (and succeeded!) the detail on a knot?! Outstanding, Sir!!

-- God bless, Candy

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#11 posted 09-16-2018 10:59 PM

Nice one Mark.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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Mark Wilson

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#12 posted 09-17-2018 01:35 AM

Candy, I hadn’t even noticed. Nor was I paying any attention to the knots in the stem. Thanks for pointing it out. Now I’m nervous.

-- Mark

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#13 posted 09-17-2018 02:01 AM

Candy, I hadn’t even noticed. Nor was I paying any attention to the knots in the stem. Thanks for pointing it out. Now I’m nervous.

- Mark Wilson

Why are you nervous NOW?

-- God bless, Candy

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#14 posted 09-17-2018 03:57 AM

Great work.

-- Brian - Hazelton, British Columbia

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Mark Wilson

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#15 posted 09-17-2018 04:52 AM

Nervous in an almost I nearly bought ticket on that flight way. Now, I’ll wonder about it every time I climb aboard. You know what else? It was, theoretically, a foolish piece of wood to do that with in the first place. The pith goes right up the stem. The Bigwigs tell you not to do that. But, then, mebbees, the Bigwigs never tried it. They only believed what they’ve heard other Bigwigs (who likely never tried it) say. Ooooh. Could I be a iconoclast? Like

And, just cause I think you’ll enjoy it:

-- Mark

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