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Sheila Landry (scrollgirl)

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#1 posted 09-17-2010 04:44 PM

It is a shame that someone would take care of your good nature and trust, William. I know what you mean when you say it is the principle of the matter that bothers you. No one likes to be taken advantage of. Period. Stick to your guns and see what you can find out. I would definitely pursue it before doing any additional work for her. Perhaps you should just approach her with the price increase up front. Tell her the honest truth and explain to her that you can’t do this quantity for that cost. If she doesn’t want to work with you maybe it is best if she does find someone else who will work for that price.

Hang in there, my friend. :)

Sheila

-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"

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KTMM (Krunkthemadman)

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#2 posted 09-17-2010 08:15 PM

Etsy has some pretty strict policies when things are mis-represented. My wife gets a lot of things from there. I think they have something like a 1 strike you’re out rule. Also, I think I told you about my dealings with the people from that specific animal shelter. It was bad enough to end any more contributions from me, EVER.

Personally I don’t mind if somebody re-sells my stuff and makes a profit, so long as they’re up front about it with me. AND THEY DON’T LIE.

-- Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect. Vince Lombardi

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dakremer

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#3 posted 09-17-2010 09:34 PM

thats kind of shitty for someone to do that!! using poor defenseless dogs as a cover up story!! what an ass (if its true) I think if it were me, the price might be going up a little. Hope it all works out! Welcome to LJs

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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Bearpie

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#4 posted 09-18-2010 06:22 AM

Stand your ground and raise your price, what you are charging is for charity and your customer does not sound like a charity case. I wish you luck but hope you won’t need luck.

Erwin, Jacksonville, FL

-- Erwin, Jacksonville, FL

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KTMM (Krunkthemadman)

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#5 posted 09-18-2010 06:47 AM

KTMM, confirming the stories…...

http://www.etsy.com/shop/GloScott?ref=seller_info

Man, it just burns my behind, look at what she’s selling them for…..
By my calculations thats a 6x-8x markup, for just painting the things…..
I know from my experience with William he’s a nice guy, me, I’m not so nice…..
Hope you get it worked out with her, best of luck man….

-- Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect. Vince Lombardi

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William

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#6 posted 09-18-2010 06:48 AM

With the help of a more computer literate friend than I, the frames have been found on Etsy. This order is already built, so I’m going to get paid for them first. If they were a size I might could use, I probably would go a different route. I need to get paid first though. As soon as I have my cash in hand though, that’s a different story. If anyone wanted to resale anything that I make, I could care less. Once it leaves my shop, it’s theirs to do with as they please. The thing that burns me up though is being lied to. If the lady had told me up front what her intentions were, and that she was planning on ordering such large quantities, I would have gave her the same price. Buying mutiple items from me always gets you a great price. However, this, from what I can tell so far, was pure misrepresentation. I thought I was helping a dog shelter. Even if the profit from these frames is going to that shelter, that still isn’t what she originally told me was going on.
I’m not mentioning the name of the friend that helped me with this because I don’t know if he wants me to. He is a fellow lumberjock though. You know who you are. Thank you so much. Thank you for the other too (you know what I’m talking about) and you and yours are welcome at my shop or home anytime.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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William

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#7 posted 09-18-2010 06:51 AM

Well, since the friend spoke up, I’m going for it. There’s a stack of ten frames in my shop. When she comes next friday to pick them up, I’ve got a surprise (not my idea, but a great one). I’ll get my money. Then I’m going to proceed to show her all her frames. I’ve got to show her the interesting detail on one of them you know? The last frame is already going to have a photo in it, a copy of her Etsy page.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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William

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#8 posted 09-18-2010 06:57 AM

Oh crap, I just went back to the Etsy site. I couldn’t help it. I wanted to steam over it some more for a bit. Then I noticed it. I went and checked my records. She joined Etsy the day she picked up the first order of frames from me and posted them one listing that day and the other listing two days later. She never had any intentions of giving these to people who adopted dogs, as per the story she gave me. She planned on selling them from the day she picked up the first order.
I can’t believe this. My gullability has bit me in the butt again.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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KTMM (Krunkthemadman)

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#9 posted 09-18-2010 07:09 AM

Yeah man, I’m not shy about this sort of thing, it burns me in a million different ways.

But HEY, definitely don’t beat yourself up over it. Just remember, I got screwed out of a lot of antique heart pine because some lady was five minutes faster on the draw calling some guy in Vicksburg a while back.

I have good faith that it will all work out. Just don’t lose your head, you’ll come out better that way.

-- Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect. Vince Lombardi

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William

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#10 posted 09-18-2010 07:12 AM

I know. That is exactly why I’m venting over it and looking at Etsy now and doing my steaming over it. This has really got my goat. However, I’ve got to get it out of my system by next Friday. Next Friday I have to be able to keep my cool so I can handle this right.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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sandhill

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#11 posted 09-19-2010 12:06 AM

William, Here is some advice. Tell here if she wants to sell them that’s fine. Don’t get crazy over it and treat it as “Lesson Learned” I would smile and take my money and say nothing else about it. You have an advantage over her now you know what she charges and if you want and feel you should have charged more then figure out what her profit is and charge her 60% of her selling price. You are in a good situation, you can unload 10 at a time. You may want to tell her if she wants to keep buying from you, you have a minimum quantity of 50 that she has to buy or the price is more per ( 10. 20, 30, or whatever). If she does not buy again, and she may not! Then you can sell them on Etsy yourself less then she does if she finds another woodworker to exploit.
Good luck

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